Spiral, a traitor!

[bloodpack]

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yes! thats true!
when you use spiral as helper, she will treacherously lure you to your opponent!
what the hell i'm talking about?
use her and then she will teleport you right in front of your opponent's face where you're most at risk of being beaten!

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i think this is the problem when you use spiral and i also
think this is the BIG disadvantage of this character in this game!

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1. if you cant improve her teleportation skills, might as well get rid of her

2. or you can "modify" a little bit of her teleportation
instead of just teleporting on "land", make her teleport players in mid air!
yes! we all know we have 8 chances of using her, make that in all angles of the screen, either at the left top corner, right top corner, below right, below left, mid upper air, mid below ground...its up to you!
just get rid of that teleportation "right in front" of your opponent, instead...behind your enemy!

*nuff said :buttrock:

[SSJKarma]

and yet another WEAK USER that cannot understand the basics of the different helpers !

know that for a fact...
when on the left side of the screen, she teleports you to the far right !
when on the far right, she teleport you to the far left of the screen.
when close to the center, she teleports you to one of the far screen but mid-air !

she always teleport you at the MIRROR location of were you initially was !
which means she is perfect for attacking treacherously, because when she teleports you in front of your opponent you give him a WEAK puinch and boom you got an upper hand for a well placed super !

stop trying to defend with helpers and think ATTACKING, because she is way better for SURPRISE ATTACKS then DEFENSIVE moves !

example: i summon her and i do a SHINKUU HADOKEN or TATSU MAKI SEMPU KYAKUU. what does that gives you, about 75% chances of completely over-power your opponent because you start the super, and BOOM she teleports you right in his face and he cannot stop you because the super has already started during the teleportation !

see... easy hits when you know how she works !

[bloodpack]

Karma, you always complete my day
i hate you :plain: (joke) :biggrin:

[marvel911]

You mean you actually use Spiral...

[DanYankees]

Spiral's helpful against wolverine and spiderman

I treasure the days when I WANTED to get guile

[XCloudX]

You mean you actually use Spiral...
i like to use spiral and guile. they are pretty decent helpers.

[WhiteTigerClaw]

[quote:post_uid8="XCloudX"][quote:post_uid8="marvel911"]You mean you actually use Spiral...[/quote:post_uid8]
i like to use spiral and guile. they are pretty decent helpers.[/quote:post_uid8]
your telling me that you like guile? there's lots of things i hate about him. he takes too long to come in and throw his boomerang. so by the time he does come in, you might be dead already. i like Dr.Doom the best for countering spider-man's special; maximum spider. :)

[haolys]

all the helpers have their pros and cons. live with it. if your match is decided by the helper that you get then what does that tell you about your skill as a fighter?

with guiles sonicboom you can send him, super jump and super as it hits him from behind. since the sonic boom goes so slowly, and spins around itself, it hits multiple times , rendering your opponent helpless.

spiral is a bit trickier but still can be used effectively as Karma has already demonstrated.

i know it blows your mind that some people actually use these "weak" helpers to gain an advantage :shocked: but get used to it, there's always someone just a little bit smarter or faster or stronger, it just so happens that person is me today.

[MasterX05]

I am really tired of ppl bicthin about helpers dont do this or not diong that right. You are not using them right Sprial is one of the best helpers, the problem is u are using her as a DEFENSE not counter . Not all helpers are used for counters or to get u out of bieng hit by your enemys super. Or even getting u out of the corner being beating by your enemy.
just look at my list

Doctor Doom: attacker
Juggernaught: attacker/counter
Hulk: attacker/counter
Blanka:attacker/counter
Spiral: counter/(can be used to attack)
Venom: attacker (slowspeed)
Psylocke: attacker/counter
Guile: attacker (slowspeed)
Sakura: attacker/counter
Shuma Gorath: attacker/counter
And if I do have sprial I use here like this.
http://www.vgmfusion.com/~senshuk/home/tutorials/movies/ryu/ten.avi

[coolplayer2K2]

spiral is good if u know when to use her

[ssj2trunks52]

WOW master that is good!

[coolplayer2K2]

ya impresive

[SSJKarma]

errrr... if you were complimenting him for the movie, then it isn't him who did that trick in the first place, and it isn't even him who did the movie, i can'tremember who made that tutorial tho ! but it sure wasn't him !

anyway... i agree on what he said, almost all helpers have their unique abilities and all helpers have their weaknesses, if you think one character isn't good then it is because your using only his weaknesses !

GUILE = too slow !
wrong, good for absolute hit !
example:
your complete left, your opponent is complete right.
you sent GUILe in the field, jump and do a shinkuu hadoken !
BOOM, you give him only two choices, get hit by the shinkuu or get hit by the SONIC BOOM.
see the choice, is there really a choice there ?
even if he blocks he still gets damaged ! so your actual strategie has worked !

see, all helpers can be used like that, that's why i loved sentinel, called him, sended my opponent flying, he got touched by sent, then i hyper jumped to my opponent and super shinkuu in his face !

all helpers have weakpoints, deal with them and think of a strategie to make em become strong !
spiral sure is good for that startegie in the movie, but it isn't the only way to use her, you must always have more then one startegie with your helpers and look at the situation cause it helps a lot to determine the best use of em !

one more thing, don't waste all your helpers in one match unless it is for your second win !

[Elena]

i can'tremember who made that tutorial tho ! but it sure wasn't him !
Wasn't it Zing who made them.

[MasterX05]

Yes it was good ol Zing who made it, and Karma i wasnt trying to take credit on the movie i was just showing them the move i do with her as a example. And i agree with u on guile i usually use him just to hit or combine super and crossover for more damge since u can use him and sprial 8 to 9 times.

[SSJKarma]

MasterX05, it was for you ! my post was dedicated to the other two named, coolplayer2k2 and SSJ2Trunks52 who were talking like they admired you for doing that movie or something like that. so before it got to far, i decided to bring them back to reality because i didn't want them to think that your the creator of this startegie or this same movie !

well anyway... there are a lot of ways to use HELPERS just have to try some startegies and i sure they will find some someday !

now, if any MOD could close that topic since it has been ANSWERED completely !

[DarkstriderX]

Spiral's teleport move is very useful, except when your opponent does their super attack.

She will telelport u right into the melee of the oncoming assualt

perhaps the bug issue can be tweaked by actually teleporting u right behind your opponent like she does in other arcade games..

Just a thought.. ???

[MasterX05]

thats what I am trying to say did u look at my list. It is not wise to use her when someone does their super on u just super jump or block.

[SSJKarma]

ok this has been issued a lot !
here is when she cannot teleport behind...
1 - when your opponent is in the far left corner of the stage
why ? because she cannot teleport you OUT of the
stage. so it teleports you mid-air, which means you have
no choice but to take full damage

2 - when your very close to your opponent
why, because her way of working is this...
your close, she teleports you away.
your far , she teleports you close.

see, on those opportunities are all weakness that she has, once you know them, you actually notice how good the helper is at sneaking attacks ! you see, her big weakness is that she cannot teleport you WHERE YOU WANT her to teleport you, now know where and when she teleports you, deal with this, and make a sneak attack. but never use her to BLOCK an ALREADY STARTED SUPER ! you'll end up being hit anyway. or if your lucky up in the air !

again, stop saying she's weak, if she is, that's only because you MISUSED her too much !
think before using and know what she does and how she does it !

[Nas]

gulie is good,when he gets the player,he does do alot of damage 4 a helper

[coolplayer2K2]

heres a tip for spiral super jump then teleport right where u are

[bloodpack]

if i jump right in the middle of the screen and then teleport, where would i land?

[SSJKarma]

that's probably the only place where you cannot know for sure where you'll end-up !
sometimes, she just teleport you at random locations 1
but normally she teleports you in a mirror location !

[bloodpack]

see what i mean, she can be treacherous!
not even you know that for sure! :plain: