To the people who whine about evil ryu being cheap

[TarkanX]

Take a note:

Use Hulk or Juggernaut as a helper, and use Wolverine(good for those shun goku satsu users), Sentinel(good for getting Ryu out of the air, though you get recoiled), Cyclops(need I say more?)

For the last time, Evil Ryu is not cheap... If you think Evil Ryu is cheap, then you've never played Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on highest difficulty VS Akuma.



Edited By TarkanX on April 05 2003 at 06:41

[$tony$]

well some people have not then...if u want us not 2 say that it is cheap sponser us so we can use it and we wont say he is cheap ok

[pip99]

vyou've never played Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on highest difficulty VS Akuma.


1 word lag

[TarkanX]

well some people have not then...if u want us not 2 say that it is cheap sponser us so we can use it and we wont say he is cheap ok
I don't have to spondor you for you to fight Evil Ryu, you just need to fight Evil Ryu, that's it.

Pip: wha..?

[pip99]

u can compare or even put into contrast..this game with st2..with lag and blocking problmes

[nosoul4evr]

gonna have to agree with Pip about the LAG thing....no one can realy compare this game to any console fighter...the 2 are just "different" and have to be played differently.

gonna have to agree with TarkanX about Evil Ryu.
The character IS NOT that hard to beat...Ya just have to use your head, for something other than sitting on.

[Kingryu1]

the tip against evil ryu. don't try to defend. just go all out on him. thats waht i do.

[pip99]

the tip against evil ryu. don't try to defend. just go all out on him. thats waht i do.
yeah thats wat i do...none stop cause i cant block his moves my game freezes..

[PSYCHO]

ill try that next time .. :)

[marvel911]

Or just dont fight the VIP's...

[da_realX]

thats predjudice

[Elena]

How is 'dont fight vips' prejudice?
Prejudice means injury or damage due to a judgment or action of another in disregard of ones's rights and also an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual.

[mooo1]

what??!! I have no idea what you just said... ??? ???

There's really only one thing that makes Evil Ryu a bit tougher then the other characters... his air super freezes your character up. Even if you know when to super jump/block these, if you don't hit it perfectly, you'll stop blocking and get hit when your character freezes or else fall behind the shot and get hit by it (apparently, it hits your character when jumping behind evil ryu).

For non-beam characters, this is quite a predicament to over come.

[Elena]

what??!! I have no idea what you just said... ??? ???
prejudice in short means to treat someone unfairly you can also tie in streotype in the definition.

[SSJKarma]

really...
how are characters cheap ?
cyclops always doing optic blasts... really ? how about thinking that you (the user) always make him do them ?
sentinel with rpocket punch and beam... again the same thing happens !

people have been saying i was cheap because i used SPIDEY... but really, i have been a lot less cheaper then most of those guys/girls that have been saying to me !
i mean they say i won cause i used spidy, but all they weere doing were hadokens on the ground repeatedly !
so how cheap were they comprared to me who was getting close and doing close range moves like kick and punches !

really, no characters are cheap... the players are !
cyclops is cheap with his beams, yes its easy to beat everyone with that and he do has lots more priority then many of the characters, but its the players that make him be cheap ! its not the characters fault if the player is being cheap !

also, pip as a point there... characters seems cheap because there is lag in this game !
i know what it is, i have a lot of problems playing with this lag. my skills are just not the same on a console.
but remember, the players are cheap, not the characters !

[DanYankees]

All I know is that Evil Ryu is awesome. It's always better if you have him yourself...

[Kingryu1]

thats predjudice
your predjudice

[nosoul4evr]

All I know is that Evil Ryu is awesome. It's always better if you have him yourself...
Bah..you just "think" he is awesome.

He isnt as "great" as he appears.
He requires alot more skill to use then any of the other characters.
His aerial Hadokens...have to be precisely placed or they miss your opponent.
His his aerial super...pretty good stuff, i have to admit...but it is still buggy..and will inevitably be fixed. But I have yet to see my opponent not be able to block the move....it's slow as hell and you can see it coming a mile away...and if you select the right helper, the move is easily broken....Oh yeah...some skill wont hurt you game against him that much either.

The Raging Demon...yeah it's great againt players that havent figured out how to stop the move from happening yet...But in a match up against a skilled player..they almost always stop E. Ryu from preforming the Raging Demon.
Especialy against all the Hadoken, Web Ball and Optic Blast queens out there.



Edited By nosoul4evr on April 06 2003 at 14:32

[da_realX]

how am i predjudiced? i say ##### are bad...thats a fact, they say vips are bad...thats not tru. tis the individual user

[Neo_genic]

It wouldn'd be prejudice it would be segregation, the seperation of two classes amoung a mass of population.
That is what it would be.

Anyone like my little guile?

[pip99]

All I know is that Evil Ryu is awesome. It's always better if you have him yourself...
Bah..you just "think" he is awesome.

He isnt as "great" as he appears.
He requires alot more skill to use then any of the other characters.
His aerial Hadokens...have to be precisely placed or they miss your opponent.
His his aerial super...pretty good stuff, i have to admit...but it is still buggy..and will inevitably be fixed. But I have yet to see my opponent not be able to block the move....it's slow as hell and you can see it coming a mile away...and if you select the right helper, the move is easily broken....Oh yeah...some skill wont hurt you game against him that much either.

The Raging Demon...yeah it's great againt players that havent figured out how to stop the move from happening yet...But in a match up against a skilled player..they almost always stop E. Ryu from preforming the Raging Demon.
Especialy against all the Hadoken, Web Ball and Optic Blast queens out there.
can i sat somethink..that sentinel beam doesnt stop raging demon......that sucks

[Jhteck29]

Well, as i see it.....Evil Ryu=Ryu+"meaner attitude"

Basically, there isn't a difference at all.....yet. With the lag the game has, I dont see any of the advantages that E. Ryu has. If you use whatever strategy you use against reg. ryu, it'll work for the evil one. If you can't beat reg. ryu, better get a new strategy, eh?

[Neo_genic]

Each one to his own, I fight better with norm Ryu.

[blanka09]

Well, as i see it.....Evil Ryu=Ryu+"meaner attitude"

Basically, there isn't a difference at all.....yet. With the lag the game has, I dont see any of the advantages that E. Ryu has. If you use whatever strategy you use against reg. ryu, it'll work for the evil one. If you can't beat reg. ryu, better get a new strategy, eh?
The air shinkuu haduken hurts more than the norm ryu's own and lag also teleports him to the air when he's about to do the move making it almost unstoppable except you anticipate his moves

[Warmor]

Like Tark said don't bitch kthxbai.

nosoul4evr: Have you tried actually playing against another Evil Ryu? Because you'll notice 2 things once that happens.

1. Because Ryu's air hadouken keeps him in the air, it's pretty easy to avoid hadoukens coming back down as well as jump to the other side and snipe at your opponents from the safety of the air.

2. Evil Ryu's air super freezes your character up EVERY TIME it's used. I seriously doubt your opponents have been avoiding it as well as you claim.

But please, don't take my word for it, try it out in the game yourself to see what I'm talking about... :)

[Scorponok]

2. Evil Ryu's air super freezes your character up EVERY TIME it's used.
That never happens to me on my computer..

[nosoul4evr]

2KW:Yes I have played many E. Ryu vs E. Ryu games.

I do not appear suffer from the problems of wich you speak. (my ryu dont freeze up..my wolverine does though. )
The only time i get caught fully in an E. Ryu aerial super...is when i leave my self open to get hit it....by trying to cast a Hadoken (or other projectile/attack)...when i should have blocked.

Blocking is at it's highest possible setting (according to TMy)...I believe people are just hammering the keys to fast...as usual...and leaving them selves open to the attack.
But as stated prior...the move is buggy and will inevitably be tweeked....and probably have the damage lessened as well...so realy any "i cant block" complaints are in ernest...because things are bound to change.

Also..MY opponents appear to have no problems blocking the move...and neither do I apparently.
I have to catch any skilled opponents unwittedly with E.Ryu's aerial super inorder for the move to go unblocked...wich is the way things are suppose to be...i think. :p

so basicaly...i guess this issue falls under the catagory of "things work one way for some users...and things work/dont work other ways for other users."...i may be wrong though. ???



Edited By nosoul4evr on April 11 2003 at 08:22

[pip99]

2KW:Yes I have played many E. Ryu vs E. Ryu games.

I do not appear suffer from the problems of wich you speak. (my ryu dont freeze up..my wolverine does though. )
The only time i get caught fully in an E. Ryu aerial super...is when i leave my self open to get hit it....by trying to cast a Hadoken (or other projectile/attack)...when i should have blocked.

Blocking is at it's highest possible setting (according to TMy)...I believe people are just hammering the keys to fast...as usual...and leaving them selves open to the attack.
But as stated prior...the move is buggy and will inevitably be tweeked....and probably have the damage lessened as well...so realy any "i cant block" complaints are in ernest...because things are bound to change.

Also..MY opponents appear to have no problems blocking the move...and neither do I apparently.
I have to catch any skilled opponents unwittedly with E.Ryu's aerial super inorder for the move to go unblocked...wich is the way things are suppose to be...i think. :p

so basicaly...i guess this issue falls under the catagory of "things work one way for some users...and things work/dont work other ways for other users."...i may be wrong though. ???
it freezes me up...

[nosoul4evr]

hmm..well that sucks.
You must be one of those folks that are effected by the bug/glitch/lag/whatever.

[pip99]

still beat people just i cant block that aor move and im not alone

I do not appear suffer from the problems of wich you speak. (my ryu dont freeze up..my wolverine does though. )
How very strange... I have yet to find a single Tenma Gou Zankuu that did not freeze myself or my opponent's character.

...that bug would be the only problem which makes Evil Ryu a challenge greater then reg. Ryu.

[nosoul4evr]

How very strange... I have yet to find a single Tenma Gou Zankuu that did not freeze myself or my opponent's character.

...that bug would be the only problem which makes Evil Ryu a challenge greater then reg. Ryu.
...well pip99 says he "freezes" in matchs against me.
all i can say is that. "Yeah a bug exists"...but im not suffering from it...wich sucks for pip99 and others :D

recently... (yesterday) I fought devilsoul for several matchs...i did not experience a pause in the action when he preformed an aerial super....in fact..i broke a couple of his Tenma Gou Zankuu's with basic attacks rather than projectiles....in these peticular E. Ryu vs E. Ryu matchs the only time i got hit with his Tenma Gou Zankuu's was because i was attacking and should have been blocking.

hopefully devilsoul can post here with his side of the scuffle.



Edited By nosoul4evr on April 12 2003 at 09:21

[devilsoul]

ya there was no freezing wuts so ever all me and nosoul did was fight there was no lag he stoped some of my air attacks



Edited By devilsoul on April 12 2003 at 09:07

[Resident Evil]

i dont have any kind of problem of evil ryu
not even blocking i could block any one move except raging demon thats all.

and my character doesnt freeze my screen does. only when my opponents lag



Edited By Resident Evil on April 14 2003 at 08:07

[pip99]

wich sucks for pip99 and others

pretty much it...though i still ant lost 2 a vip Eryu

[da_realX]

hey i have 56k and the probs some of have dont happen to me

[DA_VIPA2]

*yawn* every vip i evr fought except one beat me which was................. :laughlong: :laughlong: i fogot hahaha

[da_realX]

i beat the ship outta you so i dont know what ur talking bout. plus im back from my 2month break. time to make a comeback

[ShinKosai]

Simple solution... you become V.I.P. if you play quiet regulary... otherwise use someone like cyclops and pray... ???

[Three-me]

Its a crazy world out there, a reminder!!! Evil ryu is not cheap, that is a fact, and if u think he is cheap, u porbably just jealous u loser! anyways, theres alot of ways to beat evil ryu, like to get either hulk or juggernaut so if he uses ariel shinkuu hadouken, he'll be womped! anyways, you can also pick cyclops(but he's cheap, and kinda...u know!) or u can pick sentinel(but when u pick sentinel, evil ryu can use hell murdur and you cannot stop him withe the beam!!!!!!!!) or you can use...lets see....well all i know is that if akuma was a playable character right now, i'd be ranked number 3 right now!!!! well anyways...lets continue.

It is true, if you think Evil Ryu is cheap, well believe me he's not, just cuz he has cool moves and stuff(woo-hoo! go evil ryu!) doesnt mean he's cheap. cuz if u say that, that is that you dont even knoe what cheap is!!! i mean sentinel is gay and cheap, he only has 3 moves!!! what im trying to say is, dont say evil ryu is cheap or gay, because he's not, if u keep saying that, then that just means you're jealous that you're not vip and get him. So, stop the hating for evil ryu, he's not cheap, or anything, he's just like the other(except he's got 3 good moves*extra*, especialy Raging Demon(instant hell murdur) must be at lvl 3 to do it). So peace aight, and stop the hating! Thats my advice, and if i was you, i'd take it! ;)

[Termin8r]

Evil Ryu was what changed my cheap ways! Now I always select wolvie and E. Ryu over Cyclops and Sentinel(Use wolvies drill claw to charge up to level 3) :buttrock:

[Koopsta]

:p LoL Termin8ter if i remember right i wooped u when u were evil ryu :buttrock:

[HELLOTHERE]

All I know is that Evil Ryu is awesome. It's always better if you have him yourself...
Bah..you just "think" he is awesome.

He isnt as "great" as he appears.
He requires alot more skill to use then any of the other characters.
His aerial Hadokens...have to be precisely placed or they miss your opponent.
His his aerial super...pretty good stuff, i have to admit...but it is still buggy..and will inevitably be fixed. But I have yet to see my opponent not be able to block the move....it's slow as hell and you can see it coming a mile away...and if you select the right helper, the move is easily broken....Oh yeah...some skill wont hurt you game against him that much either.

The Raging Demon...yeah it's great againt players that havent figured out how to stop the move from happening yet...But in a match up against a skilled player..they almost always stop E. Ryu from preforming the Raging Demon.
Especialy against all the Hadoken, Web Ball and Optic Blast queens out there.
can i sat somethink..that sentinel beam doesnt stop raging demon......that sucks
optic blast queens out there lol

[Termin8r]

:p LoL Termin8ter if i remember right i wooped u when u were evil ryu :buttrock:
Ahh, yes I remember when you beat me... with normal ryu. But i never inteded to win anyway since that fight was really unfair! You had cable while I was lagging like hell(56k). So basically NONE of my moves ever hit you and all of YOUR moves did double damage to me. I just hope someday in the future we never have to complain about lag in this game no more.

[HELLOTHERE]

evil ryu is not cheap all he is , is ryu with two new moves


p.s does anyone like my new avatar

[alamgir]

evil ryu is not cheap unless the person who controls him is. The only problem i have with him is that if i use a helper or do a projectile on him while doing a raging demon a few secs later it happens.

[viper2040]

oy, some more misconceptions to clear up.

Termin8tor: about your 56k modem causing his moves to do double damage: NOT TRUE. I have a cable modem, and i play da_vipa on his 56k modem; without lag, i think we're almost equal, with him a TAD better. And guess what? he almost always wins. My moves dont do extra damage, nor do they always go through. And his moves DO go through , though not always. If the connection is bad, its really not gonna give one player a huge advantage unless he knows to play with lag.

HELLOTHERE: E. ryu is NOT just ryu with 2 new moves. Besides his 2 new specials, he CANNOT perform an aerial shinkuu hadoken (replaced by dragon rage), and he CANNOT throw a straight aerial hadoken. It has been replaced by a diagonal fireball. Also, he can do a forwards and backwards warp. While you may think, "he still is pretty much the same", think about how much those aerial changes affect gameplay. He is NOT like black spiderman; E ryu is almost a different character. (unless youre one of those trigger happy, fireball throwing people who only move to jump from one side to the other...)

[iTALY]

I think e.ryu is pretty cheap...but it doesn't matter only people that suck use him anywayz....

[Three-me]

o..........................................k

hellothere, u keep changing ur avatar and banner, next time u gonna change it again, then ask the same thing again, trust me!

[Lordcyris]

banner rules (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=9278)
either fix ur sig or be banned

[Lightbringer]

e-ryu ain't cheap... just ####s doing hadoken and hadoken over and over again in the same time, and his super was pretty dumb, it took too much space but now you have no need cause his air special doesn't take much space now so if you're under him you won't get hit anymore :laugh:

[shin~bison]

e-ryu ain't cheap... just ####s doing hadoken and hadoken over and over again in the same time, and his super was pretty dumb, it took too much space but now you have no need cause his air special doesn't take much space now so if you're under him you won't get hit anymore :laugh:
Try to use less of the "n" word and yes a very good norm ryu user should own e ryu... :biggrin: Norm ryu is quicker

[Termin8r]

Youre right, normal ryu is able to beat E ryu if you stay in the air and repeadtedly do hadokens since they try to Zankuu Hadoken you to death. And be sure to keep spamming hadoken if he tries to do that raging demon

[shin~bison]

:biggrin: Doing hadukens continually is called cheap But I think that's the best way to beat E ryu

[G_GUNDAM]

lol yall think the best way to beat evil ryu is to constantly throw hadokens. well many people tried that on me and they failed miserably. so im gonna give u a good strategy.


a lot of evil ryu user like to stay in the air 24/7. what u can do is not rely too much on your hadokens. stay close to evil ryu and use your close range skill (if yall have any). a truely skilled evil ryu user (like me) will get past all of those hadokens and beat the crap out of ya. and to the person who said that regular ryu is quicker than e ryu your not totally right. evil ryus air fireball is slower than regular ryus. other than that they have the same speed. also remember to use your super jump to the fullest.

[devilsoul]

omg three-me for the last time get my banner off your sig your pissing me off oh and italy eryu users don't use eryu cause they suck eryu is the best vip charater

[G_GUNDAM]

lol people tell me that i really suck. so the tell me to fight them as a non vip. i fight them without my status and i beat the crap out of them. then they make up some lame excuse like lag. its really funny :laughlong:

[Termin8r]

I never liked fighting against other VIP. THey just too hard. Every time I fight them I end up getting Tenma-Gou Zankuued to death cause you cant really avoid it if it's on the ground and ur in the opposide corner ???

[shin~bison]

:biggrin: Constant movement by Ryu can really be a problem for E ryu and that gives non vips a chance.. It's all about Ryu's speed :biggrin: Anyway, if termin8r really beat cyber akuma perfect then vips should be a breeze for him :biggrin:

[Termin8r]

Actually, the comp was quite easy for me. It's human players that are so unpredictable that their VIP perks make me lose.

[alamgir]

its not that evil ryu is cheap its his ragin demon. Today i fought a vip and he used ragin demon i called a helper, but it still happened and worst of all it happened twice leavin me helpless!

[shin~bison]

its not that evil ryu is cheap its his ragin demon. Today i fought a vip and he used ragin demon i called a helper, but it still happened and worst of all it happened twice leavin me helpless!
You know.. the lag thing really bites.. I mean if the vip excecutes the move on his screen there might be nothing you can do to stop it :biggrin:

[Lightbringer]

its not that evil ryu is cheap its his ragin demon. Today i fought a vip and he used ragin demon i called a helper, but it still happened and worst of all it happened twice leavin me helpless!
You know.. the lag thing really bites.. I mean if the vip excecutes the move on his screen there might be nothing you can do to stop it :biggrin:
if there's lag and the person lags you, you'll just have to use lag and lag the opponent to stop doing it, true you can't do anything to his screen, but you can do things at your screen? wonder if you get it??

[alamgir]

what r u talking about light?

[sledgehammer]

Its very easy to beat evil ryu. 1 word: sent. He's not cheap, just easy :D

[slash_2025]

Its very easy to beat evil ryu. 1 word: sent. He's not cheap, just easy :D
Six words: I think that you are wrong.

[Lightbringer]

what r u talking about light?
how to stop evil ryu's raging demon, but you have to be fast... but i know you can do it ;) i pmed you... how to do it

[Termin8r]

VIP members who are on 56k or lower are pretty easy to cancel their Raging demon with. I never did it without getting hit by a projectile, so, it never happens.

[shin~bison]

VIP members who are on 56k or lower are pretty easy to cancel their Raging demon with. I never did it without getting hit by a projectile, so, it never happens.
You might be wrong there my friend.. Vips with 56k would execute the raging demon alright and it'll happen on his/her screen Now you with the dsl or cable would not know for a while and all of a sudden.. from no where he starts the thing and even with your helper and a projectile the screen turns black! ... let's face it you have to bombard him with hadukens b4 you can actually stop it

[darkFlash88]

i have a 56k dial up modem and my comp is pretty slow most the time but i ave special prog that does something to the internet and all of asudden its faster and more accurate but anyways i get lots of lag but if i rented a cable modem and stuff i probobly would be a really really good fighter because the lag makes the person your fighting dissapear alote and his or her life doesnt go down when your pownden on him but then gradually it goes down but ive learned how to work with the lag but i still nead a cable modem plus evil ryu is the bomb!! :buttrock: and soon i will get him and be a VIP..

[Saijin_Ryu]

The thing that really enoys me is when people say oh you cheap vip user then they say a minute later..

can u sponser me please... :laugh:

[darkFlash88]

ow exacly does that sponser thing work.

[Theverygrimbomb]

[color=orange:post_uid2]Good thing I have cable![/color:post_uid2]

cable is quite usfull lol

[darkFlash88]

yeah well i need broadband or something cause i have dial up :(

i use blueyonder with broadband its quite fast

[darkFlash88]

blueyonder??

[Theverygrimbomb]

What the hell is blueyonder?? :0 :0 :0

its an english cable i live in london

[darkFlash88]

some kinda cable or something silver says e has blueyonder and broadband.

no its a broadband connectid with blueyonder its the best london internet connection there ever is

[darkFlash88]

wow you gotz it all but off course you know that haven a cable modem means it is online 24/7 and doesnt go offline and that makes it open for hackers to hack you like a swrm of bats. i would know cause im a hacker myself not a super good one but im pretty good :buttrock:

thats not something to say here

[darkFlash88]

well silver are you a skilled fighter
???

[TarkanX]

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