We're missing a helper from a long time ago

[TarkanX]

I remember that Sagat was going to be a helper in the game, and saw some pics of him... where is he? It's been 5+ months(don't remember the exact date).

[coolplayer2K2]

oh yea i forgot well i hav no idea

[Elena]

I remember that Sagat was going to be a helper in the game, and saw some pics of him... where is he? It's been 5+ months(don't remember the exact date).
yep he was going to come out with weaponx. but he didnt nor did weaponx.

[marvel911]

That would be cool to have Sagat.

[MasterX05]

It was probable a fake pic

[TarkanX]

Oh yes! Now I remember! Yeah Elena, your right... it he was supposed to be with Weapon X.

[Elena]

I think it was fake because it look like the characters in the arcade. Cuz chun li had those blue clones of her when she did her fireball combo. And her outfit is that one in my banner the chun-li that is moving.

[TMyApp]

all in good time... 2k3 just started :biggrin:

[SSJKarma]

those pics were fakes TarkanX !
they came in with the 4P chat and update !
they were on SENSHUKENTAIKAI.com
they were made by zing and quass, but how i knoe they were fakes ?

because they also came with wolverine doing his WEAPON X !
also, cyclops in the pics with everyone (all 6) on stage shown cyclops doing his GEOMETRIC BLAST from the air !
which we all know, we can't do !

for all those reasons, i think they were fakes just to put our hopes high !

[Quass]

You and your "fake" calling... lol

You do know that there are different builds of the game.. right?
We don't always play/test the build you guys see... duh! :)
As Tmy said.. just wait.. 2k3 has just begun..

**TOASTY!!**

[mastaq]

indeed TOASTY... :biggrin:

[anz_boi34]

your baterin me

[azn_boi35]

your baterin me
whoz botherin you?!? :withstupid:

[SBYRD5]

**TOASTY**=Rap....Raging Demon is coming!!!!!!

[ssj2trunks52]

wow....Sounds to me liek some really cool shizz is going to be happening this year.......

[mastaq]

only if you knew sbyrd... :biggrin:

[Joe_Cool_2000]

where is he?

[asshole]

And what happened to Sentinel?
Why isn't he a helper anymore?

I mean I know that he's a useable character now, but that doesn't mean anything!

And to hose who might say "Oh, well seeing two Sentinels would not look cool", well you can Pick two of him, why not use him as a helper?

I mean, common.. first when we didnt need him cuz the chrs. were too small for his blast, he was there, now that we have a USE for him, he's NOT!? BAH!!

[SSJKarma]

listen quass !

if all those PICTURES on SENSHUK that you showed us are real pictures, then those are already finished and ready to be played...

- wolverine WEAPON X super (you know the seven days pics you showed us)
- cyclops AIR-BORN GEOMETRIC BLAST (it also had the rebound thing off the ground)
- SAGAT (doing TIGER, TIGER KNEE and TIGER UPERCUT)
- 6 charcaters on screen ! i remember that picture were it said you could do a TRIPPLE SUPER (2 player and 1 helper) i remember this picture like it was yesterday !
chunli was doing her kick super, ryu was about to shoot his shinkuu, sagat was out too and was doing that TIGER (fireball) on the other side of the screen, we had SENTINEL who was about to blast, wolverine who was doing BBX and cyclops shootinghis GEOMETRIC BLAST downward !

have i imagine all this when about 50 other persons have seen those pics that SUDDENTLY got removed from senshuk ?

if those pictures were true, which was said by TMYAPP that they were fakes !
so prove me wrong quass ! prove me wrong !
if all those pictures were REAL then it is clear that the ENGINE is 99% finished and all the moves for the charcaters have been finished a long time ago !

sorry, but i continue to say they were FAKES because i clearly remember TMYAPP have said they were fakes not real !



Edited By SSJKarma on Jan. 28 2003 at 19:27

[coolplayer2K2]

ya asshole what did happen to red sentinel/sentinel he was a pretty sucky helper bc he only shoots up but still cool and so ur saying they were FAKE PICS ahh im gonna faint

ok kidding but elena ur kinda right about that neways if sagat is comin with weaponx and weaponx hasnt come yet wich it always says on whats comin thingy weaponx that means sagat hasnt come either so u might have to wait and see for weaponx and sagat.

and karma what about the pic of like 2 ryus and 2 sentinels all in 1 screen and the one where its well i forgot remeber it showed some other picswhen it was about 2001 and almost 2002 ahh man i forgot srry.

so quass u put all of those fake pics the thinking that sagat and cyclops jump super were gona WHY U LIL...........

[iTALY]

And what happened to Sentinel?
Why isn't he a helper anymore?

I mean I know that he's a useable character now, but that doesn't mean anything!

And to hose who might say "Oh, well seeing two Sentinels would not look cool", well you can Pick two of him, why not use him as a helper?

I mean, common.. first when we didnt need him cuz the chrs. were too small for his blast, he was there, now that we have a USE for him, he's NOT!? BAH!!
man he was a horrible helper neway, and i guess we werent aloud to have a helper and a character being both the same person

[Nferno666]

horrible if you don't know how to us him...but good if you did, he did the most damage and was very usefull so was tarks red sentinal cause that would get you no matter what

[asshole]

Like Nferno said, he was very useful if you knew how to use him..

And, Back in the day, Next to Blanka, he was my favorite Helper!

blanka true true he is still the best and so is guile :D

[Nferno666]

well blanka is good to counter and guile is good for jumping back and calling him out then jumping fourth and going for a super but still sentinal was the best combo setup for me

[Irrelevant]

I've always liked Psyloke (sp?), but now you only get 3 I've been trying to get the hang of Guile.

[asshole]

Yeah, back in the Day, I was the ONLY one who used Blanka, all of you other Players Used "Psylocke"..

Me and Troy88 were the only ones, becasue that's how I trained him!

[coolplayer2K2]

ya i still remember man well for my its gotta go to spiral.if use her in the right time and right way she will kick ass

[Irrelevant]

I could never work out how to get blanka. The main reason I used Psylocke is because I could get it reliably, so I could actually develop a strategy using a helper. :(

[Nferno666]

lol back then ppl were to lazy to find out the keys for each helper so she was the easiest to get but when i didn't want her i would let it autoselect which would get me sentinal :D

[DarkOmega]

the best helper has to be phylock or blanka it is so easy to do combos with them
:buttrock:

[iTALY]

horrible if you don't know how to us him...but good if you did, he did the most damage and was very usefull so was tarks red sentinal cause that would get you no matter what
there we 2 different kinds the red one which always hit u well if u were on the ground, and the purple one ( i think thats the colour) which did the blast in the air, that was a crap helper

[Nferno666]

crap for you but not for those that knew how to use him correctly to take a bunch on health away :D those who didn't just weren't skilled enough to properly use him i guess that it wasn't hard

[SSJKarma]

hell yeah...
sentinel was one of my best helper at the time !
people seems to look who's hitting harder and then tell that the other sucks hard !
but every helpers have their STRONG and WEAK point... it all depends on with who of them you play !

sure that sentinel wasn't hitting on ground opponent, but it was a sure hit when it camed to block air-born players ! which was about 75% of the players at that time ! people think helpers are only good for blocking supers which most of the helpers aren't even used to that !

its like saying DR. DOOM is weak cause he don't save you from a super when the opponent is far from you !

just to use them adequately and every single helpers will become good for you !

[Nferno666]

exactlly...no helps suck the ppl that complain about them suck cause they don't know how to use them

Nferno666: Ok then... how bout this...

***Ryu Hadokeneer (Blanka) vs. me (Ryu, venom)***

RH: Jump back, hadoken, hadoken, hadoken, hadoken.
Me: block, duck lk mk hk lp mp hp, dragon punch, dragon punch, hadoken, super jump (back)
RH: jump back, hadoken, hadoken, hadoken, hadoken, hadoken...
Me: block, super jump (forward), duck hk hk hk hk mp mp mp mp mp mp, dragon punch, jump back block
RH: *runs* shinkuu hadoken
Me: (while dragon punching) venom....
RH: Hadoken, hadoken, hadoken...
Me: hadoken, hadoken, hadoken, super jump...
RH: shinkuu hadoken
Me: (lands behind) dragon punch, dragon punch, dragon punch, hadoken, jump back (block)
RH: hadoken, hadoken... lv3
Me: checks health (me = 75%, him = 99.9% 'cause he's hostin' on normal mode), venom, shinkuu hadoken
RH: blanka, shinkuu hadoken
Me: VENOM DAMIT
RH: shinkuu...
Me: ... *dead*

*cough* No helpers suck?? :biggrin:

[Nferno666]

if you have 75 percent left and he has 99 use should just take it easy...you shoiuld take it as if were the other way around and after he does a haduken super jump and call your helper while your in mid are and before your land either hit the mid punch button or the high kick button...either way you'll connect and he'll be dead and he might get 1 hit in so you'll still be alive with 80 or so...each character has hes good and his bad..plus if some1 keeps doing hadokens don't just saty in the same place...i never do i keep jumping forward and blocking at the same time so by the time they get level 1 or so i'm right in there face so they can't connect with it so it goes to waste

Right... been there, tried that... got killed doing it too :biggrin:
venom vs. blanka + hoster = venom sucks.


if you have 75 percent left and he has 99 use should just take it easy...you shoiuld take it as if were the other way around and after he does a haduken super jump and call your helper while your in mid are and before your land either hit the mid punch button or the high kick button...


Yeah, I always do that... and well, doesn't work. Probably what I'm getting at here is that certain helpers do suck when you're not hosting. When you are hosting... you rarely even need helpers.

And... it's kinda hard to think of it as the other way around since none of your attacks hit them even when you're hitting them 10:1 of their attacks... or even if you block/super jump over 90% of their supers. What really pisses me off is that you can hit them with 100% of your supers, but even the few that actually connect are stopped by a Blanka (thus giving you no opening to deal out effective damage).

i never do i keep jumping forward and blocking at the same time so by the time they get level 1 or so i'm right in there face so they can't connect with it so it goes to waste

I do that too.. and, well... doesn't work unless you are hosting and/or have very little lag on a turbo match (normal doesn't let you block ####, regaurdless of if you see it coming/know it's coming). Try super jumping around.. works for a while, then jump lock. Try running at 'em, jump forward + block, and attack with dragon punches and low attacks, if you don't back off fast enough (and usually when you do anyways), they're either in the same spot throughing hadokens or on the other side doing more of the same... without any damage being taken.

Venom does suck because:
- He can't get you out of being nailed by supers
- He takes almost .01 damage
- He takes longer then almost any helper to get out there
- Even when you use him right, unless your hosting, his move doesn't hit your opponent/allow you to hit them and take some damage.

I'd rather have any other helper in the game (yes, even Spiral can be useful... sometimes). But venom.. no.

Anyways, I've had enough bitching for a while.



Edited By 2000warrior on Feb. 02 2003 at 17:16

[Nferno666]

well he might suck for you but he doesn't for me...none of the helpers do cause i have good stratagies for all of them...i've won some of my toughest fights with vemon

[SSJKarma]

nferno666: well, it all depends on what VENOM does !
this example already hapenned to me more then once and i can't seems to understand in which situation he does it !

example:
me = SPIDERMAN + VENOM
user = RYU + GUILE

jumping forward
web ball
spider kick
HK
(hitting ground) webball
jump forward
HK
MK
HK
...
some time passes
...
ok, he's 25% i'm still 75%
i'm at the far right of the screen he's far left
throw out venom
jump forward to my opponent, giving him almost no choice but to block the next few attacks !
*problem start*
venom doesn't follow me, he came out from my opponent side
doing his venom fang right at me while my opponent is still safe behind him !
*problem end*

that happens to me a lot, i can't pinpoint in which situation it happens cause some times he's fine other times he's just ####### CONFUSED ! it's like now work, the next fight be confused, the next fight be confused, the 4th fight be fine !

sometimes he just doesn't do what he's suppose to do !
i tryed also in practice mode...
do the same problem which is a bug i think !

see, venom is a good helper yes... when he works right !

[Nferno666]

it depends what side your opponent is one when you call him out...most of the time if you call him out when your in mid air he comes out just fine in the middle so you can't miss unless you both super jump but if that happens just be prepared to block for the worst...sometimes i predict when ppl are gonna supper jump so i do it aswell but jumping backwards and so a shinku hadoken way up there and i connect and there helpers can't do anything

Nferno666: Do you normally host or join (or just accept or challenge)?

blanka and guile for life :laugh:

[Nferno666]

Nferno666: Do you normally host or join (or just accept or challenge)?
i accept and host games...but don't join games much...they usually end up with me fighting with a partner which i hate