*the shotos* - Shotokaners which is best

[SuperBunmi]

now when you hear shotos the first thing that comes to your mind is ryu ken and akuma but what about the other ones dont forget that dan sakura sean and gotesu r all shotos but which one is the best i would also like to know what games sean is in.. :biggrin:

[Winky_Dinks]

Dan is by far teh coolest.

[SuperBunmi]

in just want to know what games sean is in

[mastaq]

Dan isnt a Shoto he has his own style called Saikyo.. :plain:

[DA_VIPA]

shin akuma is the best of the shoto's..

[SuperBunmi]

Dan is a shoto what you talkin about he was trained under the same master as ryu fool :biggrin: what game is sean in

[DA_VIPA]

dan has his own style. he was taught by his farther who i dunno who he is. but its no shoto u can tell by the way they do their ki and their spinning kick moves well in dans case diving kick move.and the guy wares pink for goodness sake

[SuperBunmi]

what game is sean in :biggrin:

[Resident Evil]

Ryu and akuma.

[SSJDan]

dan hibiki uses a modified version, his dad got killed by sagat, if i remeber right dan's father ripped out sagat's eyeball....im not to sure what game sean is in you see him in mvc but you can't use him :(

[SuperBunmi]

i know eh dat sucks if only dere was a rom i could use sean in dat would be great fact dat would be awsome i cant wait till marve| vs capcom 2 is emulated this goes to da vipa lol

[Orlando0]

Sean is in Street Fighter 3

[DA_VIPA]

lol i know that would be some big ass rom file tho..well it will be possible in half a decade or so..

[SuperBunmi]

can streetfighter 3 be emulated

[G_GUNDAM]

i think it can be. hell kof 2003 and samurai shodown 5 is already emulated *at least thats what i heard*. anywho ithink ryu is da best. he is constantly training and looking for da perfect battle. not to mention he is da master of the fireball.

[Resident Evil]

i agree ^.

[DA_VIPA]

streetfighter ex, ex2, ex2+ are all emulated aswell.

[Roll]

Sorry to disappoint you guys, but the forum rules do not allow talk of emulation. Please be careful in the future, alright? ^-^ But in any case, Dan taught himself, giving him the style "Saikyo" (which means "Second Attempt"). Sakura isn't truly an Ansatsuken user, but her moves are taken from the style, and that was reason enough for her to become a fighter in the same style as Ryu and Ken. Sean... to be honest, is weaker then Dan. This is official, btw. ^-^;;; Poor Sean. He's referred to as Dan sometimes, and that makes him kind of angry. Sadly, though... he's weaker. So that's basically more a compliment now, isn't it?

[DA_VIPA]

sean i think is cheap player i fought sakura was bad but capcom were desperate making another shoto lol.

[Orlando0]

Saikyo means "the strongest" BTW. Not "second attempt" like Roll said.

[Roll]

Wrong. Saikyou means strongest. Saikyo means second attempt, and that is the official name.

mebbe it does mean second attempt, but in SFA3, it says it means the strongest.

[Roll]

Capcom of America is... retarded. They sensored everything possible, even Names of characters. So, there you go. Don't trust American versions. Trust Japan.

[SBYRD5]

Dan isnt a Shoto he has his own style called Saikyo.. :plain:
Well aint america....some..%#%$@



Edited By SBYRD5 on Jan. 05 2004 at 00:28

[SSJKarma]

well, for all i know, FBA is th ebest emulator for CAPCOM games and it still doesn't play the EX series well, and KOF 2003 isn't emulated yet, nor is any NAOMI BOARD games !

orr else, all the characters from the MvsC2 game could be taken in for some new STREET FIGHTER characters !

i'll look at it again, but from what i heard, even tho the roms are out there... the games aren't playable yet ! or not fully playable !

DAN has his own style, sure it resembles the shotokans, but it isn't i know i'm a DAN USER and KNOW EVERYTHING about him ! sakura has immitated the style of ryu, which is no way means she learned the shotokan style, she just immitated the moves without asking why ! so she isn't considered a shoto either !

sean is in SF3 and is a weakling and his moves sucks even more then DAN moves !
and i must add that SF3 sucks !

[Orlando0]

KOF2003 hasn't even been made yet.

As for Samurai shodown 5, it is probably being emulated now.

Now we REALLY need to stop talking bout that stuff before we get in deep s***.

[Roll]

Sakura is an Ansatsuken user like Ryu and Ken, even if it is imitated. Her imitating it, just means she wasn't taught by anyone. Self-teaching rocks. AND STOP CALLING IT SHOTOKAN! You're going to make children join Shotokan karate to be "just like Ryu/Ken". Their real style is and has been Ansatsuken. Blame Capcom of America for the censor.

[ledmonkey]

Ah.....and dark sakura is very much like Ryu.....and she still keeps some of her moves like sho-ken..

[Roll]

Then again, led, Dark Sakura isn't truly Canon to the Sfuniverse. (Canon=Reality) VS. games aren't Canon, EX games aren't Canon, and sadly, Pocket fighter type games are non-canon. And Canon-wise, Ryu and Sakura have not used the Shun Goku Satsu. ^-^;

[ledmonkey]

Sry wouldn't know....havent ever played a street fighter game.....

[Kingryu1]

shotos suck apart from ryu and dan. ryu is the origanal shoto and dan is an origanal shoto because of his moves. all the others are just clones of ryu with tiny tweaked moves.

[Orlando0]

Umm Ken was also in SF1. So that makes them both originals.

[Ryumastax]

Yea But Also Restu Gokui(Akuma)'s brother was one of the first he trained with both Ryu AND Ken in SF1

(Retsu is da first guy u face in tha first street fighter)

Also dan isnt an original because his movies were just... movies! and his moves are totally different contemplations of Ryu Ken, Sakura,Akuma,(and even Allen Snider's) attacks



Edited By Ryumastax on Jan. 05 2004 at 16:51

[MasterX05]

Gee u make sean sound like garbage.

[Roll]

Gosh, people, way to ignore me. STOP CALLING THEM SHOTOS!!!! >.<;;;
Dan is not, nor will he ever be, a "shoto" (icky icky word...). Nuh uh. He's just Dan Hibiki, the first person to officially get a full name without a lawsuit. Then comes Sakura Kasugano, who is classified as such, but only because her moves derive from that fighting style.

Retsu from SF1, huh? He wasn't an Anatsuken fighter/student, nor was he trained to be one. He is not related to Akuma in any way either. He was just a good friend of Gouken, and that's all. He's a Fallen Monk (explained in a bit) that uses Shorinji Kempo. He's a fallen monk, because he went into the "forbidden techniques". He did beat up Dan once, though, after he was kicked out of Goukens class. Reasons are unknown, but my guess, is that he challenged him to try and get back at Gouken.

If you meant Goutetsu, he's gone.
If you meant Gouken, who IS Akuma's brother, he was killed during SF1 by Akuma. Neither of them were in the game, but they fought "behind the scenes", and the entire battle was witnessed by Gouken's daughter, and Ken made it at the last moment to watch Akuma place that finishing blow on Gouken. Gouken is now dead.

Also, no offence, MasterX. I mean, Sean is a great fighter and all (compared to some ofus, I suppose), but he is weaker than Dan. He has been shown to be getting his butt kicked so often, that Capcom portrays him as a character much weaker than Dan. It's sad, but I think we can trust Capcom's endings, and storylines with him. Sorry.

[SBYRD5]

Ouch.....even dan has his day sometimes...lol

[MasterX05]

got this off of gamegen
SEAN

Sean works hard at imitating Ken's techniques and moves, but he hasn't quite perfected them yet. Sean's weakness is recieving attacks while he is attacking. His dream is to perfect his own original combo. Ken also introduced Sean to Ryu for a fight to test what he had learned. Ryu wins with no trouble and Sean knows that he is still yet to master the art of Shotokan.
Rate 6.0

DAN

Dan's father challenged Sagat and removed one of Sagat's eyes in the fight. In revenge, Sagat kills him. Dan is after avenging his father's death by defeating Sagat. He also created his own fighting style called Saikyo: "The strongest."
Rate. 6.5

[Roll]

But then, you should knowby now he is rating everything himself. So, it doesn't really account for what really happened, nor does it say anything about their reality. To be honest, Dan gave that revenge thing up after SFA2, and just started trying to teach people Saikyo style. He's probably still trying to force people to learn it. And Saikyo means Second Attempt. I should know, since I am studying the language. ^-^;;
Sean... Well, he kind of hit Sean head-on. But... he's still weaker than Dan, since even Dan hasn't gotten his butt kicked in so many Battles.

[MasterX05]

I notice that if youbeat MvsC with Ryu it shows Ken talking with Sean telling him about Ryu and to go talk to him for a fight. I kind of figured he get beat bad.

[Roll]

well, yes. But you'd have to play through all of the SF3's to find out about his real story. ^-^;;;; Just put everything in it's own area, and you'll see.

[G_GUNDAM]

i consider dan a shoto because he trained with ryu and kens master for a while. the master knew that dan wanted revenge and tried to pursuade him not to take up the life of revenge and study some more shotokan style with him. but dan refused and gotetsu refused to teach dan anymore since he knew that revenge would cause the dark hado to possess dan.

[Roll]

Dan was kicked out because of that revenge. No questions were asked, since trying to stop wanting revenge is almost humanly impossible for those who want it badly enough that they wish for death. And he was taught before Ryu and Ken came into training. However, he left before they started, and started his new style, his own style, that became his. If you like Dan, he would probably never forgive you if he knew that you thought of him as an Ansatsuken student.

[Ryumastax]

Gosh, people, way to ignore me. STOP CALLING THEM SHOTOS!!!! >.<;;;
Dan is not, nor will he ever be, a "shoto" (icky icky word...). Nuh uh. He's just Dan Hibiki, the first person to officially get a full name without a lawsuit. Then comes Sakura Kasugano, who is classified as such, but only because her moves derive from that fighting style.

Retsu from SF1, huh? He wasn't an Anatsuken fighter/student, nor was he trained to be one. He is not related to Akuma in any way either. He was just a good friend of Gouken, and that's all. He's a Fallen Monk (explained in a bit) that uses Shorinji Kempo. He's a fallen monk, because he went into the "forbidden techniques". He did beat up Dan once, though, after he was kicked out of Goukens class. Reasons are unknown, but my guess, is that he challenged him to try and get back at Gouken.

If you meant Goutetsu, he's gone.
If you meant Gouken, who IS Akuma's brother, he was killed during SF1 by Akuma. Neither of them were in the game, but they fought "behind the scenes", and the entire battle was witnessed by Gouken's daughter, and Ken made it at the last moment to watch Akuma place that finishing blow on Gouken. Gouken is now dead.

Also, no offence, MasterX. I mean, Sean is a great fighter and all (compared to some ofus, I suppose), but he is weaker than Dan. He has been shown to be getting his butt kicked so often, that Capcom portrays him as a character much weaker than Dan. It's sad, but I think we can trust Capcom's endings, and storylines with him. Sorry.
Accually Restu started wit ryu n ken in da same dojo u genius

and ur rite retsu isnt his brother But he DID train wit dem he wuz a friend/student of Gouken

[Roll]

Listen, mister, I don't know where you got your information, but I know for a fact that Retsu did not train with or under Gouken. Everything that I had said is an official statement from Capcom, and everything can be found in the "All About Capcom" books that were sold. They were not anything more than friends, and they did not have the same fighting style. All that I had said before about him, I will not say again, because it does not need to be said more than once, and it is all the truth.

[TJ5]

Retsu is a fallen monk EINSTIEN RYumastax *slaps him with fish of vetness* =/ Retsu was not a student of Gouken =/

[Dreadlocks]

Man, I guess the Street Fighter series is not as confusing as I thought, LOL, and Roll really knows her stuff.

but don't forget you guys, if you're a fan of the EX series (like I am) you will remember two other "Karate Guys" (can't use Shoto) in the game that had moves just like Ryu and Ken. Their names were Allen Snider and Kairi, however Kairi got his moves changed in the later version of Street Fighter EX series.



Edited By Dreadlocks on Jan. 07 2004 at 07:28