Religious Debate

[Razz]

S'up yall?
Since Warmor doesn't like us debating religion in his thread, let's do it here!

[Razz]

Ya ned you have no right dissing Christianity 'cause you're not a Christian!
I think you're just jelious 'cause we have an undenyable,unconditional,everlasting,wonderful thing in our lives that will save us from eternal torment that you don't understand!!

[TarkanX]

I get tired of these religious debates, if you want one, ask lefty for a debate forum.

[CptnAmerica]

um...heh tarkan ...that's what you posted in , the religious debate forum...uh sorry dude lol
preach it razz

[TarkanX]

I've been in thse before, on other forums, the forum will crumble, and I don't want that to happen.

[nedburns]

Quote: from Razz on 6:29 pm on Sep. 11, 2001Ya ned you have no right dissing Christianity 'cause you're not a Christian!


I was a Christian for 18 years. Now I am not. Why is it that I have no right to "diss" Christianity unless I follow it? I mean, I don't fly planes either, but I think I would still have a right to "diss" the airline if a plane I was one crashed.


I think you're just jelious 'cause we have an undenyable,


Err..in what why is Christianity undeniable? The only "proof" in it's validity is the bible, a book of fables written more than 2000 years ago by many differant men over the course of many differant years, a book that has been revised, restored, taken out of context, and translated 50 times over from it's orginal version. WOW WHAT GREAT PROOF!

unconditional,everlasting,wonderful thing in our lives


Christianity and God have been used countless times in the past 2000 by men as a means of commiting terrible things. Ever hear of the crusades? How about hated of homosexual, blacks, and countless other groups of people? How about insane censorship and repressive laws that, until about 50 years ago, held the American People in a jail of ignorance? That sure is wonderful.


that will save us from eternal torment that you don't understand!!


Yes, because as we all know, you go to #### if you do not have faith in God, you are Hellbound. Much like that heathen bastard Ghandi, who I'm sure is rotting in #### right now because he did not accept Jesus Christ as his personal savior. He is now Satan's child, despite the many good things he accomplished during his life. Right.

RELIGION IS AWSOME!!

(Edited by nedburns at 6:50 pm on Sep. 11, 2001)

[CptnAmerica]

i agree ghandi is in ####. because,yup he didnt accept christ. how can you say screw god , let me help this old lady across the street and still expect god to say sure come into my house? no proof:what exactly hasn't been proven in the the bible? 1/3 of the bible is prophesy, and at least 1/2 of those prophesies have been fulfilled.and notice how many different men, matthew marc, luke , and john have all recorded the same exact story with almost precise accuracy in writting?hmm...sounds pretty valid to me. biblical context:you can still get the bible in it's most precise translation from hebrew mind you , in the kind james version. which has not been take out of context.as far as hate crimes and such , i assume you are speaking of the kkk -i dont agree w/ these guys , i believe(strongly)that they have misinterpreted the bible and have taken IT out of context.i dont hate black people, or white people , i'm mexican for cryin out loud.RELIGION IS AWESOME:christianity=relationship w/ jesus christ.no religion

[CptnAmerica]

ned i'm not trying to get you saved in fact i'm done with you,because i'll let you deal with your inner demons or whatever. i'm saved, i'm happy , i agree w/ tmy you have not said anything nice. and it's a shame you wont pray for the lost in ny, wash. ,penn. and elsewhere.have a nice life , and it was fun punking you in the gameroom. razz,god bless and i'm done in this thread.

[Razz]

Book of fables?!
1.Like cptnamerica said around 1/2 of the bibles prophacies have happened.
2.Why would someone waste years of their life to make a book about nothing?
3.hate crimes:comitted by people who twist and abuse the words of the bible!
4.just 'cause Ghandi is in #### doesn't make him the devil's child!
I respect your blind decision to go to #### instead of heaven but when you start to diss God and his children you start to tick me off!

[Lordcyris]

um guys i have nothing against any religion so i am neutral..i have studied a bit of each in my life
but i will not place my opinion here i will ask thoe
who is to say who's religion is the right one?
can anyone be sure the religion they follow is the true one?
and if we fight over who is right or wrong then wouldnt that make us like those ppl who have been fighting for years over that land?

P.s. not good on the names but im sure you know what i mean..

[nedburns]

Quote: from CptnAmerica on 7:18 pm on Sep. 11, 2001
ned i'm not trying to get you saved in fact i'm done with you,because i'll let you deal with your inner demons or whatever. i'm saved, i'm happy , i agree w/ tmy you have not said anything nice. and it's a shame you wont pray for the lost in ny, wash. ,penn. and elsewhere.have a nice life , and it was fun punking you in the gameroom. razz,god bless and i'm done in this thread.


Geeze, you seem to be reveling in your stupidity.

Basically, what you're saying is that no matter how good I am as a person, since I don't blindly follow a outdated book of rules that I'll still go to "####"?

Right.

Tell me this: How about all of those people who existed before Jesus was born? Did they end up in ####? They obviously didn't follow Jesus, since Jesus didn't exist. They were Jews, not Christians. Did God send them to ####?

How about remote African tribes that have never even heard of Jesus? Are they ####-bound? Poor guys! Ha ha.

Christianity is an insanly out-dated religion. It really has no use in modern society. Christianity preaches intolerance, hatred for others, and bigotry.

The bible has a lot of great ideas of how to live your life. Sadly, many of it's followers feel that they should ignore those parts and focus on the vauge passages about Homosexuals being evil, non-christians being hellbound heatens, and other such wonderful ideas. The bible should be viewed as a large collection of parables written by a few wise men thousands of years ago. It is not an account of actual events, and it is not a history book. It should certainly NOT be taken literally.

Christianity would be a great religion, if not for the Christians....

PS: Captain American: OH NOS!!!!!!! YOU BEAT ME IN A EXTREMELY BUGGY BETA OF A ONLINE FIGHTING GAME RENDERED IN FLASH! THAT MAKES YOUR OPINION VALID! I HAVE BEEN BESTED!!!

Ha ha ha.

[Token]

Ned is completely right. You think Ghandi si in ####? i wont even comment...

I, personnaly, am atheist. fuck you to ALL religeon, in my opinion. but hey, i dont condem or force my beliefs on other because i think its 'right'. why? because it isnt. you cant preach about rules and truths made in a book so old, and so poorley translated...

jesus, to all you people who are agruing about this, shut up already...you cant prove one thing, not one ioda. Ned is the only one making sence.

[nedburns]

Quote: from Razz on 7:21 pm on Sep. 11, 2001
1.Like cptnamerica said around 1/2 of the bibles prophacies have happened.

Really? One half, eh? Where do you get this figure from? Cite your sources. Also, could you please be so kind as to name some of these prophacies that have come true? Please be sure to cite the book and passage as it appears in the bible, so that we can all referance it. I mean, if you're going to use these "facts" in an arguement, you must have proof of them, eh? ;)

2.Why would someone waste years of their life to make a book about nothing?

Well, a lot of people spend their entire lives for silly things. It explains the KKK, The Holocaust, and Carrot Top.

Also, this arguement that you've just given goes against the idea that Chirstianity is the One True Religion, since didn't other people spend their whole lives to write, saay, the Koran, The Book of Dienetics, the Torahh, and the sacred documents of other religions?

Heck, by your arguement, David Koresh accually WAS Jesus, since he spent his whole life dedicated to that cause.


3.hate crimes:comitted by people who twist and abuse the words of the bible!


Sort of like those people who use the bible to forward the cuase of Racisim and Homophobia, and those who declare all non-Christians Hellbound, eh?


4.just 'cause Ghandi is in #### doesn't make him the devil's child!

But you DO say that he's in "####", right? Haahha.

I respect your blind decision to go to #### instead of heaven


Gee, thanks.

but when you start to diss God and his children you start to tick me off!

I HAD BETTER WATCH OUT!

[TarkanX]

I don't want to get mad, but everyone all just shut the fuck up, and stop bitching about this, this is a forum for X-men vs. street fighter online, not rambling about religion is good, religion is bad. Now let's conitnue what we did before all this bitching came to the forums.

(Edited by TarkanX at 5:18 am on Sep. 12, 2001)

[nedburns]

Quote: from TarkanX on 9:17 pm on Sep. 11, 2001
I don't want to get mad, but everyone all just shut the fuck up, and stop bitching about this, this is a forum for X-men vs. street fighter online, not rambling about religion is good, religion is bad. Now let's conitnue what we did before all this bitching came to the forums.

(Edited by TarkanX at 5:18 am on Sep. 12, 2001)


So you came into a thread titles "Religious Debate" and you expected talk about Marvel Vs. Street Fighter? WOW YOU SURE ARE A SMART GUY. If you don't want to read this thread, DON'T CLICK ON IT.


(Edited by nedburns at 9:43 pm on Sep. 11, 2001)

[TarkanX]

Quote: from nedburns on 5:43 am on Sep. 12, 2001
Quote: from TarkanX on 9:17 pm on Sep. 11, 2001
I don't want to get mad, but everyone all just shut the fuck up, and stop bitching about this, this is a forum for X-men vs. street fighter online, not rambling about religion is good, religion is bad. Now let's conitnue what we did before all this bitching came to the forums.

(Edited by TarkanX at 5:18 am on Sep. 12, 2001)


So you came into a thread titles "Religious Debate" and you expected talk about Marvel Vs. Street Fighter? WOW YOU SURE ARE A SMART GUY. If you don't want to read this thread, DON'T CLICK ON IT.


(Edited by nedburns at 9:43 pm on Sep. 11, 2001)


Oh, I'm not a bitch coming into a forum where you play to post about useless crap that doesn't belong here, oh sorry me, go back to the gutter where you came from.

[ewalk]

lmfao!!!

i still cant believe how anyone in our time can still believe in this #### religion crap... whats up scared of dying? looking for relief? well lemme let you in on a little secret, we all are scared of whats after death... but #### ppl let the time come and get over this hiding behind religion...

and right, i dont care what the topic is, i gotta read the crap wether the topic interests me or not, so open your own fucken forum for religious beliefs... this is xmen vs street fighter (if u dont believe me take a look at the X-men vs street fighter grapic)

[nedburns]

Quote: from ewalk on 12:00 am on Sep. 12, 2001
lmfao!!!

i still cant believe how anyone in our time can still believe in this #### religion crap... whats up scared of dying? looking for relief? well lemme let you in on a little secret, we all are scared of whats after death... but #### ppl let the time come and get over this hiding behind religion...

and right, i dont care what the topic is, i gotta read the crap wether the topic interests me or not, so open your own fucken forum for religious beliefs... this is xmen vs street fighter (if u dont believe me take a look at the X-men vs street fighter grapic)

Oh yeah, because we all can see how this one little thread here is destroying all the other great threads here like:

"H3Y D0-0D H0W DUY U BLOK IN DIS GAM?"

And

"YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING PUSSY YOU BOW TO ME I AM THE BEST PLAYER EVER I AM THE MASTER"

Or how about:

"Hey, in the next version of the game, you should add characters from Cowboy Bebop and Superman 2, don't be lasy, it would be so easy to make the animations!"

[Lordcyris]

seems we have a someone posting under 2 names here
and using one to flame
maybe both
but it seems that they mouths only get bigger on writting and knowing no one will find out where they live so they are safe from AN ASSWHOPPING
but i bet ur gonna say i can kick ur ass and blah blah blah
been there done that

[Token]

Quote: from Lordcyris on 2:18 am on Sep. 12, 2001
seems we have a someone posting under 2 names here
and using one to flame
maybe both
but it seems that they mouths only get bigger on writting and knowing no one will find out where they live so they are safe from AN ASSWHOPPING
but i bet ur gonna say i can kick ur ass and blah blah blah
been there done that


Havent you been to other MB's? that isnt a flame.

[MagFlare]

What bitter, bitter irony.

For years, Christians were persecuted for their faith; they were thrown to the lions for entertainment, they were tortured, and they were murdered, but they refused to renounce their belief in God.

Now that Christianity is at the top of the heap, what do they do? Why, they persecute every other religion, of course-- including (perhaps especially) atheism. It's traditional.

I realize that not all Christians espouse this philosophy. However, it seems fairly popular among those who can hide behind pseudonyms-- anonymity means never having to say you're sorry.

"The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society."
--Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, Dec. 30, 1981

"The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason, observation, and experience merits everlasting pain, is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance called 'faith.'" - Robert Ingersoll

[108-1022790901]

This is not a forum for a religious debate. There are plenty of other bbs's entirely deticated for that topic.

Therefore, this topic is closed

I will however leave the Terrorist attack topic open out of respect and for a place for people to come together and speak if they need to. But only to the point that it also does not turn into a religious debate.