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maddog
09-10-2004, 10:08 PM
9/11 well talk about what u think and what was on ur mind dat day todays da 3rd anniverssity as u all now so post whatcha think

rip to all the victims

_dmx_
09-10-2004, 10:12 PM
:D

gameboymaster
09-10-2004, 10:14 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid5]My little sister was born Sep. 11, 2000. She is now 4 since right now in my city it is about 1:14 am.[/color:post_uid5]

_dmx_
09-10-2004, 10:19 PM
^ she cursed..=/

gameboymaster
09-10-2004, 10:27 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid11]Nah..She is very bad and she is sometimes good and nice but not cursed. People starting to die on the same date as Sep. 11 but on the year of 2001.[/color:post_uid11]

_dmx_
09-10-2004, 10:29 PM
oh heh hought it was same year..

asshole
09-10-2004, 10:52 PM
When it haPPened.. just liek most of you, I didn't thinkit was a BIG deal.. so I made j0kes saying I(since im Asian) took it down..
It was fun. Me and my friends made kids in tha school believe I had shlt to do with it.. haha it was TOO GOOD!


but now.. I think it was a Payback to AmeriKKKa.. Don't think it should of haPPened, but it was AmeriKKKas fault..

alamgir
09-11-2004, 02:05 AM
Well it was a tragedy but its the past now. It was the start of the biggest presidential mistake ever.

Saijin_Ryu
09-11-2004, 03:01 AM
I recently saw this http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pentagon.html

And it's very interesting.

pip99
09-11-2004, 03:45 AM
When it haPPened.. just liek most of you, I didn't thinkit was a BIG deal.. so I made j0kes saying I(since im Asian) took it down..
It was fun. Me and my friends made kids in tha school believe I had shlt to do with it.. haha it was TOO GOOD!


but now.. I think it was a Payback to AmeriKKKa.. Don't think it should of haPPened, but it was AmeriKKKas fault..
you dont HONESTLY mean that dO ya :bored:

abc123test
09-11-2004, 05:26 AM
When it haPPened.. just liek most of you, I didn't thinkit was a BIG deal.. so I made j0kes saying I(since im Asian) took it down..
It was fun. Me and my friends made kids in tha school believe I had shlt to do with it.. haha it was TOO GOOD!


but now.. I think it was a Payback to AmeriKKKa.. Don't think it should of haPPened, but it was AmeriKKKas fault..
0 o You think it's funny that people died that day? I sure as hell don't why? Think of it this way your sitting in your office and a plane crashes and about blows the whole building up. You die and your family is still there haveing too worrie about how too put food on the table. ect. ect,

It's not a funny matter that was a stupid post.

pip99
09-11-2004, 05:29 AM
thats y i asked him if he ment it that ShiZZnit ant cool.

DaSuperTrooper
09-11-2004, 05:30 AM
=/ .. it was all a cover up anyways... stupid americans.

Osama bin laden is a genius. :cool: them bastards cant even find his hole.. its hilarious.

SSJDan
09-11-2004, 08:40 AM
i can honestly say that i really don't care about sept 11 anymore i'm actually fed up with the whole memorial thing.

SSJKarma
09-11-2004, 08:58 AM
Same here... a couple of word for you all guys !

GET OVER IT DAMMIT !

i have wnough of hearing about it... you guys say its a tragedy because lots of americans died that day. like it should meant more then the famine in all other countries which makes a lot more victims then those stupid crashes ! be real guys, wars gives even more victims and you guys enjoy those. so why wouldn't you enjoy seeing the crashes.

come on, get over it, its 3 years old, just forget it dammit and live with it.
as simple as that, i'm with ASSHOLE, the americans truly deserved it with all those stupid millitary supremacy and all that President small talk about how the americans are the strongest in the world, it was evident that the americans would be the target for terrorrism !

just a say, why do you think the canada never had such acts of terrorism huh ?
simple because we damn shut our damn mouths !
were not going on saying we are untouchable do we, then i ask why are you americans doing so then.

in any cases, one thing i found funny tho after hjearing it are the samll gags that were going on after it.

we had a major crash of plane here too...
well that major but it still was on all TVs around here.
some small plane who crashed on top of the TV ANTHENA of the local CHANNELS.
many gags were speaking of it being the terrorist testing their strategie on us before getting the world trade center !

poor guy, because of 9/11 he became famous here too !
yet no one cared for the guy, but when its america who gets then, yo it becomes the number one tragedy of all time, what a joke !
i just can't believe how 2/3 of the earth thinks that way. its just stupid, death is death, may it be millions or just one or two, it is the same for me. it happens to all ofus one day that's all !

DA_VIPA
09-11-2004, 09:04 AM
i think the whole ordeal is staged by america. i just know it is.

dominicankid098
09-11-2004, 09:29 AM
You people are really retarded aren't you? The fact that they are american does not mean that they deserve it. Some who worked in the Towers were from many different countries. And most Americans don't beleive in some of the things that this country does. So wtf are you talking about?

You people swear like we want to bomb people for fun. They do whateva the Commander in Cheif tells them to do. Not what they want to do. If you sign in the army you are there to serve your country even if you like it or not.

I can't stand you american haters. If only you know how it feels to live through some of the things that we AS WELL don't beleive in.

Bombing 2-3000 people is not something that anyone deserves. I don't care if the towers were nothing but a jail cell. Now grow the hell up.

Many people lost there loved ones. I knew someone who worked there and died. And he was a nicaraguan! DON'T GIVE ME YOUR STUPID poop THAT THE AMERICANS DESERVED IT WHEN GLOBALLY IT HURTS ALOT OF PEOPLE FROM MANY COUNTRIES.

You and asshole need something better to do in life rather than hate americans.
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All my prayers today go to the people who suffered from this tragedy.



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SSJKarma
09-11-2004, 09:36 AM
Truly you miss understood me !

i may hate americans for saying they always are untouchable in any things...
have you ever considered that your president gets elected democratically because your people who voted for him thinks he is the best bets, thus what he does is considered what the people wants. not my fault if you elected a poopty president. nowbecause of him, you all suffers yet its never your fault isn't it !

in any cases, like i said, is it normal to bomb a country and kill 2000-3000 people ? just ask yourself isn't what you are already doing in IRAQ ? i say bullpoop, you people like to be in front page of things, thus he declare war to the simple country who will just pass a simple drug case in your country, maybe its not your point of view on this, but its mine and i think your president is just as stupid as those who continu to elect him for presidency !

Virtual Fighter
09-11-2004, 09:51 AM
i've certainly gotten over it.

since then, tons of prejadice not only to arabs but to EVERYONE have occured.

more than 150 arabs have died in the USA since the 911 attacks in hate related "partiot" acts.

now this part makes me really angry... more than 50 LATINOS have died in hate related patriot acts, most of the time because they were mistakened for arab.

about 100 people of other ethnicities have also died to the hands of hate-striken-"patriots"

and let us not forget, all the fliped up things america has done to others.

when we dropped little-boy and fat-man, killing more than 100,000 innocent japanese people, did america have three years of condolance?

what about the nazi-like concentration camps japanese people were put into during the war?

people are even thinking of reinstituting them, but for arabs. now that is fliped up.

there have been many, many secret wars we haven't known about, in many different places.

america is arrogent, knieve, ignorerent and intollerant of other cultures.

osama bin ladin and alkada saw all the fliped up things america has done, stamped a "ji-had" symbol of approvel, and began to plan.

no, it wasnt right, but we have done TONS of fliped up, even more fliped up things to other people.

not only that, but to get our "revenge", americans have done MANY, MANY more fliped up things. i wouldnt be supprised if in the next ten years, something else cotestrofik happens.

its a wake up call for all the poletitions, and all the evil doo-ers in america so clean up their fliping act, or else innocent lives will get fliped once again.


(oh, and btw, no, im not buying flags, or stickers, because all of that is just exploatation. my school is selling 911 ribons. ii asked if they were to go to the victoms famillies, or anything like that, and they said "50% will do to leader ship, 25% to the student body, and 25% to the victoms families.

flip them, and flip anyone else to tries to sell flags, and mislead you into thinking you're a patriot just because you have a 99 cent peice of poop on your hood.)

AnimeGirl4evr
09-11-2004, 09:52 AM
heh..Todayz my friends b-day..and yeah Im in Toronto..I made some jokes about it..pretty funny..but i think
ppl should get over the fact that it was three years ago..I dont mean any of this in a bad way Though..but i agree
with karma..

gameboymaster
09-11-2004, 09:58 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid5]Yay!! 2 b-days today!! My sis's b-day and animegirl's friend b-day

[quote:post_uid5]Truly you miss understood me !

i may hate americans for saying they always are untouchable in any things...
have you ever considered that your president gets elected democratically because your people who voted for him thinks he is the best bets, thus what he does is considered what the people wants. not my fault if you elected a poopty president. nowbecause of him, you all suffers yet its never your fault isn't it !

in any cases, like i said, is it normal to bomb a country and kill 2000-3000 people ? just ask yourself isn't what you are already doing in IRAQ ? i say bullpoop, you people like to be in front page of things, thus he declare war to the simple country who will just pass a simple drug case in your country, maybe its not your point of view on this, but its mine and i think your president is just as stupid as those who continu to elect him for presidency ![/quote:post_uid5]

If you are over it then why are you still angry about it and why are you yelling so much(!)? If you REALLY were over it then the things that happened on Sep. 11 wouldn't really matter to you.[/color:post_uid5]



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Virtual Fighter
09-11-2004, 10:00 AM
we should be memorializing ever since we got into this god awfulll war.

ever soldier that died, every innocent iraqi and afgani life we've taken.

American_Badass
09-11-2004, 10:01 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid6]:baaa: This is getting uninteresting to many ppl die today that it dosent even matter anymore................................everytime i turn on the news.........2 ppl died today,5people died today,heavy fighting,flashlight bomb,car bombs,trainbombs. i say screw it............to many ppl have died already death is only obvious in times of war bush is stupid we should send him to war and see how he likes it risking his life........who the freak plays golf after sending an entire nation to war...................down with bush............wut nerve he has running for president agian after all the wrong that he has caused![/color:post_uid6]

gameboymaster
09-11-2004, 10:05 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid5][quote:post_uid5]we should be memorializing ever since we got into this god awfulll war.

ever soldier that died, every innocent iraqi and afgani life we've taken.[/quote:post_uid5]

This is true

[quote:post_uid5]This is getting uninteresting to many ppl die today that it dosent even matter anymore................................everytime i turn on the news.........2 ppl died today,5people died today,heavy fighting,flashlight bomb,car bombs,trainbombs. i say screw it............to many ppl have died already death is only obvious in times of war bush is stupid we should send him to war and see how he likes it risking his life........who the freak plays golf after sending an entire nation to war...................down with bush............wut nerve he has running for president agian after all the wrong that he has caused![/quote:post_uid5]

I don't like George bush. He is suppose to be helping almost everyone, but he acts like he doesn't even care about people. He needs to do his responsibilties. He needs to pay attention to alot of things happening. The good thing is that a new president awaits us soon.[/color:post_uid5]

dominicankid098
09-11-2004, 10:15 AM
Ok. If you knew something about how the President gets elected. It is not only by vote. Voting is only 30% of it. The electoral college chooses the president. The "popular winner" is the one who they might think of selecting president. And at the time bush was running, there were a bunch of idiots running as well. bush just had the *my father was president before* thing on his side. That is why he won.

And to get some things clear, I DID NOT BOMB IRAQ, buSH DID. This is all on bush. WE DID NOT WANT WAR. bush did. Is his call, he is the commander.

gameboymaster
09-11-2004, 10:19 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid7]heh I learned something new from you dominicainkid, but I still don't like George bush. He needs to get his mind straight and focus on what is happening.[/color:post_uid7]



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American_Badass
09-11-2004, 11:03 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid13]bush is a fool he should go back to skool....... :baaa: ..........[/color:post_uid13]

raddaman0628
09-11-2004, 11:37 AM
I know a girl that was born in september 11. Her name is Sarahy Mata which means Killing Sara if you traduce it and put it backwards. O.o ???


Ps: They killed latinos too?! Dang you bush!! Dang you!!The only thing he wants is the freaking oil. Why kill Iraq wasn't it Afghanistan, just because they have long beards?1,000 american people killed and they all cry, however it is someone else and they don't care. Just because his father was President everyone votes for him. I wanna spit in his face and kick him in the balls. I'm gonna make my mom vote for Kerry.



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marvel911
09-11-2004, 02:31 PM
Sure it was bad, but let those events rest in peace..where they belong. Instead of bringing it up as if it was a birthday. I mean come on how many of you actually bring up the day your grandparents or some relative died? Go to let go and accept the changes.

venom-spiderman
09-11-2004, 02:51 PM
that doesn't mean ur cursed ifur born 9/11 if just mean sumthing

Virtual Fighter
09-11-2004, 05:08 PM
I know a girl that was born in september 11. Her name is Sarahy Mata which means Killing Sara if you traduce it and put it backwards. O.o ???


Ps: They killed latinos too?! Dang you bush!! Dang you!!The only thing he wants is the freaking oil. Why kill Iraq wasn't it Afghanistan, just because they have long beards?1,000 american people killed and they all cry, however it is someone else and they don't care. Just because his father was President everyone votes for him. I wanna spit in his face and kick him in the balls. I'm gonna make my mom vote for Kerry.
well, bush isnt techincally supporting all the arab-american killings, but you know us americans. and yes, alot of non-arab people have died, mistakened for arabs.

like 3 people died in some liquer store just a couple of miles from here when some "patriots" thought it was best to "put an end to alkeida, one arab at a time"

and then killed the latinos, thinking they were arab.

MasterGrim
09-11-2004, 05:33 PM
no no, painfull memories but think of the money how much money and live did we lose and bush

raddaman0628
09-11-2004, 05:40 PM
Why did they even started this. They say kill them because they are arabs? Iraq has not even got the fire power to reach over here. Hey I just tought, they say Iraq has gas. Maybe he took the thing of the twin towers to blame Iraq and Steal their oil while it was started by afghanistan!

Virtual Fighter
09-11-2004, 05:46 PM
money? MONEY? who can think of money at a time like this, you materialistic little man... :angry:

jk.

SSJDan
09-11-2004, 06:55 PM
The reason why i am sick of hearing about it is not because americans died or because they were american or because it is all over the news and it is not because im not senstive to the issue.

i don't care anymore because it seems like we learned nothing from that day. When that happened i was a senior in highschool and one of the things i remember thinking and talking about to people was how i hoped people would begin to appreciate the value of ALL life be it afgan, american or even a completely different species, at first it seemed like people began to care about human life , but it quickly faded.

People talk about starving children in third world countries, after 9/11 there are still people starving in first world countries including both canada and america....i find this unacceptable. Thats why i don't about 9/11 anymore. The homeless people in toronto are completely ignored by people passing by. Not only do they lack material possesions but they have been striped of all dignity, no one even acknoledges that they are there, that is untill its too late. All i know is that winter is coming up and i hope they can get to some shelters.

Just imagine what could be done if money was taken from the military and placed into health care, education and shelters.

This brings me to another hing that isn't related to 9/11 but i should say this here and now as there might not be another opportunity. Why do we put so much money into space programs? don;t get me wrong here i'm all for exploration and all but we have way to many problems here on earth to go spending billions of dollars to go to the moon and back. I'm not to sure about this but i don't even think that we have explored the deepest part of the ocean yet. It's almost like running before you can walk.

but then again the idea of fuel cells did come from space programs as well as other devices.


Thanks for reading my post and sorry if i have been rambling on too long. Think of it as practicing your reading skills :D

Virtual Fighter
09-11-2004, 07:25 PM
true. not only that, but all this money waisted on war is making the poor people even poorer. and its not just america, america is like the brother countrie of both mexico and canada. what happens here, affects them too.

i've seen people that are pretty well off have to sell their home and live with a relative because their job closed down. ive seen the hobo down the street get 3 new freinds. i've seen freinds in school have the same shoes for 2 years, their feet red and blistered, because they dont have enough money to buy new ones.

and what is the US doing? we're killing people, and getting killed over seas for a false war.

as for space, flip space. the world is to disunified and violent to try to spread our reach and influence to other worlds.

not untill we have a unified, perfect world, can we try to search for other worlds.

SSJDan
09-11-2004, 07:42 PM
im with you vf, the only good thing that i can think of that came out of any space program recently was fuel cells, but i think they have been around for a while and only up until now they are starting to be used for civlians.

MasterX05
09-11-2004, 08:22 PM
When it haPPened.. just liek most of you, I didn't thinkit was a BIG deal.. so I made j0kes saying I(since im Asian) took it down..
It was fun. Me and my friends made kids in tha school believe I had shlt to do with it.. haha it was TOO GOOD!


but now.. I think it was a Payback to AmeriKKKa.. Don't think it should of haPPened, but it was AmeriKKKas fault..
0 o You think it's funny that people died that day? I sure as hell don't why? Think of it this way your sitting in your office and a plane crashes and about blows the whole building up. You die and your family is still there haveing too worrie about how too put food on the table. ect. ect,

It's not a funny matter that was a stupid post.
Ahole is right sorry but America had things coming to them.
They ignore the warnings from a third world country. Cuz America smeemed to have the you cant touch this Mc Hammer theme going but really. Shiznit cant happen so Dont you dare luagh shiznt can happen to you and your allies. You can be touched dont think you cant! Cuz tourrist aint flucking around no more man!

iTALY
09-12-2004, 06:24 PM
"According to the American "value system" what is the rate of exchange between value of American lives versus value of Iraqi lives? The rate of exchange must be high! Perhaps it is over 1000 to 1. That is, it appears that Americans think one American life is more precious than 1000 Iraqi lives."

complete article (http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/9581/)


That's what piss's me off the most, because its true.
Approx. 3000 people died in the wtc and as sad as it is, noone thinks of the hundreds of thousand iraqis that lost there lives.

Ludacris
09-12-2004, 09:08 PM
man, apparently they got warnings about those attacks a lon time ago but they didn,t take them seriously........... man, if they weren,t cocky, that could have been avoided...........anyways..........like KArma said, yeah people got killed in the plane crash but millions die each year of hunger and aids and do U hear them talking about it?

NO! they rather invest money in building tanks and making weapons instead of helping under-developed countries........anywayz........

blanka09
09-12-2004, 10:17 PM
Well, this is how I see it; it's no America's place to mourn for the thousands of people who loose their lives to AIDS, starvation and other unfortunate happenings in the world. What the americans are simply doing today is rembering the lives of the "innocent" ones that was lost on that day.. 4 years ago. I remember returning from the store in woolwich arsenal on a train from Deptford when my Grandma told me to turn on the TV to sky news.. and there it was, the tower burning. I actually thought it was a movie until the second plane hit and then the chaos was unmeasureable.

Not saying that american lives are far more "precious" or anyffin.. but the point is, if they (as americans) choose to make a big deal of it in their own country, then so be it. Bloody hell, they can't be held responsible for all the things that go on in the third world countries.. however one cannot forget about the foolish and irresponsible act of "our president"... may God continue to bless and provide for him (yes.. no matter how "bad" his decisions are, we're still liable to pray for him) in rushing to war in Iraq.. without the concent of the UN alliance.

These and some other actions of the americans are what make the whole atom of "hate" to grow and fester among other countries.. and sadly enough, things like what happened on the 11th of September 2001 do happen.\

I don't really know the right words to say to those who lost lives of relations and loves ones on that day.. but I pray that God would console them and be with them till they meet to never part again.

Now who wants some orange soda? :biggrin:

dominicankid098
09-12-2004, 11:01 PM
As fliped up as this may sound, but the *poor* people of toronto chose their life to be that way. They must have had a chance some early time in their life to make it better for themselves. When you don't look at things for the future, then you will be living in an unorganized matter. They became poor because they didn't think about their future. You can name many examples to me and I will give you an answer of what might have happened or what they could have done to live better for themselves. Yes it is sad they live that way and hopefully they find shelter but they chose life to be that way.

money? MONEY? who can think of money at a time like this, you materialistic little man...

bush thinks of money.

Questions you people might have in your head.
Why are american soldiers out there? Because bush wants the oil.
Does he care about "Iraqi Freedom"? NO.
Should John Kerry or George bush win the election? Every person I know is going to vote for an independent, flip democrats and republicans.
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As for you people who don't get the point here. Yes alot of people die from diseases, car accidents, aids, starvation, etc etc. AND GLOBALLY EVERYONE TRIES TO HELP, BELEIVE IT OR NOT. You people make USA look like one big pile of trash but in reality we try to do what we can to help others. My family donates in charity, goodwill, and many other things every month. And so many others do as well. What you people don't get is that many yes have died in diseases and other things, but how many people in the world die in a terrorist attack in one big group? A SERIOUSLY PLANNED TERRORIST ATTACK. Not many buildings have been bombed down. And to think about it, one of the airplanes was most likely to hit the United Nations but lost control. United Nations is a place where all world leaders meet. Then what were you people going to say about that? If they were to bomb the UN everyone would be helping out the U.S. in IRAQ. SO STfuWITH THAT.

Don't blame USA. Blame bush.

--(-
09-13-2004, 01:24 AM
well i remember that day september 11, 2001 pretty well - i had gotten to school late and strolled into the classroom (science), the teacher had the t.v on and most of my mates were playing around with the bunsen burners and the gas stuff burning things, i glanced at the t.v and seen these 2 towers collapsing, i was like "yo what movie we watching?" and the teacher goes, "the news, the world trade center in America had 2 planes smashed into it" and i was like "oh" and then went and played with the burners and poop with my mates.

The End.

SSJDan
09-13-2004, 10:25 AM
Read Plato's republic and then read Sir/Saint Thomas More's Utopia. Then judge for yourselves of what governments should do.

QUIET_KILLER
09-13-2004, 12:02 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid11][quote:post_uid11="SSJDan"]Read Plato's republic and then read Sir/Saint Thomas More's Utopia. Then judge for yourselves of what governments should do.[/quote:post_uid11]
[color=teal:post_uid11]Yo ssjdan man give me a link so I can read it. :blues:
Now yo dominican kid explain that independent.
Process to me send me a pm so I can read it please.
Also yeah he also has a point about death.
it is all over the world and in cause=sin.
I am not even sure where to begin.
So I was thinking of saying some fugged up stuff.
I can of course see we have enough of that so.
I will follow some advice we all should have heard.
You don't got nothing nice to say don't say it then.
Also for those gone all from the world.
At every time and century for my memorial words.
What ever the situation prays for.
The souls of the departed R.I.P[/color:post_uid11][/color:post_uid11]



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LAB~MONSTER
09-13-2004, 12:29 PM
9/11 be happy that they are gone. thats all i gto to say.

SSJDan
09-13-2004, 12:29 PM
they are books, im not sure if you can get a online copy of them.

Vash
09-13-2004, 03:50 PM
The 9/11 attack was horrible and alot of family and friends passed away that day when the air planes crashed in to the towers form those terroist, darn them.

LAB~MONSTER
09-13-2004, 04:06 PM
ok ppl, there is nothing u can do to bring them back. so be happy that they died. its says it in the bible be happy for someone when they die. so i am happy. :), don't be sad.

~Mastermax~
09-13-2004, 04:17 PM
oh great, religion goes great with politics...
lets start some holy wars why don't we?

LAB~MONSTER
09-13-2004, 04:32 PM
umm when did this topic changed from respect to the victims to war? i am lost. :( . help me out mastermax.

Physicals r scary
09-13-2004, 05:08 PM
but now.. I think it was a Payback to AmeriKKKa.. Don't think it should of haPPened, but it was AmeriKKKas fault..
too all you fu(ks like this kid, you need to grow up, you dont know how good you have it in america, and im sure if your mom dad sister etc died in wtc or was in the wars were in youd feel a hell of a lot different..... but i guess you just sound so cool hating the country you live in, were you have way more freedom and a better standard of living than other countries

`Crystal
09-13-2004, 05:50 PM
All i have to say is dat none of my family or friend where thurr.. well maybe 1

And umm Sept 11 ..was Ludacris(the rapper) birthday

Virtual Fighter
09-13-2004, 06:58 PM
but now.. I think it was a Payback to AmeriKKKa.. Don't think it should of haPPened, but it was AmeriKKKas fault..
too all you fu(ks like this kid, you need to grow up, you dont know how good you have it in america, and im sure if your mom dad sister etc died in wtc or was in the wars were in youd feel a hell of a lot different..... but i guess you just sound so cool hating the country you live in, were you have way more freedom and a better standard of living than other countries
if i knew someone who died in the WTC, i wouldnt be all patriotic. i'd be asking WHY. WHY, and i dont want a chicken poop bush answer. i would want the truth. the REAL truth.

Physicals r scary
09-13-2004, 07:01 PM
a bull poop bush answer? and can you please inform me when bush or anyone else gave a bull poop answer about why the wtc were destroyed? could it be because al queda flew planes into the wtc because they hate america? or is that a lie, and theres a big ol conspiracy im missing out on?

Virtual Fighter
09-13-2004, 07:18 PM
i dont know, he clamed terrorists, then we were at war with the taliban. Osama is still not found, and now we are at war with saddam. but wait- i tought it was terrorists? no, apperantly bush changed his mind and is now saying it was saddam. then, fherenheit 911 is raising all sorts of questions on bush's credablitity and his possible sympathy to the soudy royal family.

in a time of need, we are crippled to gulibility. when im in time of need, im am crippled with strengh in question.

Physicals r scary
09-13-2004, 07:59 PM
rotfl... id be surprised if fahreinheit had one fact... peter jackson...er michael moore is so full of it, i dont know where to start... ya harass congressman saying "why dont you send your kids to fight?"... newsflash : parents dont make kids go to war... its free will.. and for the "he claimed terrorists, then we were at war with the taliban. Osama is still not found, and now we are at war with saddam. but wait- i tought it was terrorists?"

1.so hes lying cause osama isnt found yet? does that mean we didnt destroy the taliban and cripple al queada? thats like saying in ww2 "roosevelt is so full of poop, 3 years at war and we still havent found hitler... hes a liar, germany never attacked us, it was japan that bombed pearl harbor

2. saddam is a supporter of terrorism, he has ties with al queada even. look for more wars beyond iraq and afghanistan, were at war with ALL TERRORISTS GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL.....and how can you not say iraq isnt in a better state then it was two years ago with saddam and his sons in power, brutalizing anyone who went against them

bush isnt the best president ever, in fact hes poopty, but when people say that "were at war with terrorists and thats bad" it really ticks me off



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Virtual Fighter
09-13-2004, 08:18 PM
1) this isnt about ww2, its about now. and if youw ere trying to make an annalogy, then it's really faulty.

2) no he doesnt. saddam hates ossama, and had a conflict with alkaida. he doesnt support them, and that is a proven fact, STATED IN THE 911 CONMISSION REPORTS. they found no connection to saddam, and 911.

if you say the reason 911 happened was osama bin laden and alkeida - why is it the US has now virtually abandoned finding osama bin laden and sent more then half of afganistan's soldiers to fight in iraq, if the commision reports found no link?

it's very easy to be gullable, and take in whatever "truth" they say on the news or by bush himself.

dominicankid098
09-13-2004, 08:27 PM
And how would you know that they had virtually stopped looking for osama? Do you think that the Delta Force would give out all secrets to everyone? It was hard enough to capture saddam who was local in iraq, it would be a hundred times harder to find some piece of trash animal that explores inside caves.

The news does not always state the whole truth.

Physicals r scary
09-13-2004, 08:33 PM
1) this isnt about ww2, its about now. and if youw ere trying to make an annalogy, then it's really faulty. ok dismiss it since you have nothing to say

2) no he doesnt. saddam hates ossama, and had a conflict with alkaida. he doesnt support them, and that is a proven fact, STATED IN THE 911 CONMISSION REPORTS. they found no connection to saddam, and 911.

2.really, can you find that? because didnt iraq have various terrorist camps that we have found? i dont remember seeing or hearing anything in the comission reports that they have found no connection to sadam and al queada, could you get me a link?

if you say the reason 911 happened was osama bin laden and alkeida - why is it the US has now virtually abandoned finding osama bin laden and sent more then half of afganistan's soldiers to fight in iraq, if the commision reports found no link?

they abandoned finding osama? really? then why are troops still there searching for him? just because we havent found osama doesnt mean we arent looking for him, and yes soldiers did leave afghanistan for iraq because AFGHANISTAN ALREADY HAS A GOVT SET UP THAT WE DONT HAVE TO POLICE


let me say this slowly

we

are

at

war

with

all

terrorists

Virtual Fighter
09-14-2004, 07:50 AM
The commission's report says bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to [Saddam] Hussein's secular regime. Bin Laden had in fact at one time sponsored anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan.
bush, responding to criticism of Cheney's comment, said there was no evidence Saddam's government was linked to the September 11 attacks.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/16/911.commission/

WASHINGTON (AP) - Rebuffing bush administration claims"]no evidence exists that al-Qaida had strong ties to Saddam Hussein.[/b] In hair-raising detail, the commission said the terror network had envisioned a much larger attack and is working hard to strike again.

http://newsmine.org/archive....nel.txt (http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11/inquiry/no-iraq-link-to-911-says-panel.txt)

if we're beggining to play the game of stating facts, and then posting links, how about you back up those terrorist camps in iraq statment, or how about you back up your "we're still hunting for osama" statment. how about your afganistan has a government set up?
dont test my facts, please. i watch the new every day for at least an hour, and if you havent already heard that the commision reports havent found a link, then im really doubting your knowledge on the warr.



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-Ski-
09-14-2004, 08:02 AM
i lost a child hood friend on the pentagon crash and he was on a feild trip there

:(

dominicankid098
09-14-2004, 08:32 AM
Like I said before, do you think that the news will give out every bit of information? Especially National televised news?

Anyways here is my link of someone with a proven document that there is a connection between saddam and osama.

http://www.tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/03/06/34908297.shtml

Virtual Fighter
09-14-2004, 02:40 PM
just by looking at the url, it tells me its bias. why? well,

frist of all, it says "tennesse" in it. tennesse is on of the most republican states int he nation. NO poop its gonna be pro-bush. second, wtf is this website anyway?

is it CNN? no, is it fox news? no, is it CNNBC? no, its fliping nothing.

it is flipng NOTHING.
how can you come here, claim the news doesnt tell everything, then post a bias, unknown, untrustable link? =/

Physicals r scary
09-14-2004, 04:29 PM
oh my god, cbs isnt biased? whats with this whole affair with the document dan rathers or whatever his name is reported about that was proved to be fake by investigators, yet he still denies it being fake

Mr. Big
09-14-2004, 06:22 PM
Cost of War (http://costofwar.com/)

sooner or later if bush stay in office, i bet the US wont have enough money to even run the country straight. so far its over 137,000,000,000 and climbing and the economy isnt even rebuilt.



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Virtual Fighter
09-14-2004, 08:35 PM
actually, its some where around 100 billion, i dont know where you got the exta 37.


okay, Physicals r scary, since you wanted me to post some links and facts, how about you back your statments up?

its my third request, so far each denied.

BTW: i said NOTHING about CBS. CBS is an educational programming show which shows children shows in the morning and boring grown up materials in the afternoon. dan rather does NOT work for CBS.

please, get your facts straight.

dominicankid098
09-14-2004, 09:26 PM
uh, you get your facts straight. CBS 4 IS NOT A CHILDRENS CHANNEL. PBS IS.

Virtual Fighter
09-14-2004, 09:33 PM
ARRGG!! fine, i retract my earlier statment, and i corgially smacked myself in the head.

that still doesnt make up for yours and his lack of facts, proof, links, and doesnt make up for an abundance of "like, something, whatever" statments.

Ken-Po
09-15-2004, 03:40 AM
That plane should have crashed into bush's tight ass straight into the white house, and not into a building with innocent family men/women working. I will tell you right now I don't give a shyt what Bin Laden did simply because of what Karma said and yes it is very true. America thinks they own everybody in war, knowledge u know shyt like that. America did deserve a wake up call but not by killing innocent people.

If there's one thing I hate about the army, war and all dictatorship related material is civillians fliping dying for nothing dude. Half of my family was slain in war what the hell for? because muslims wanted their own part of what once was Yugoslavia, serbs wanted their part, and croatians wanted their part, yet the day before the war we were all like brothers.

I guess what I'm trying to say is don't make fun when innocent lives are taken, but at the same time and this goes directly to you americans: DON'T THINK YOU ARE BADASSES AND YOU OWN EVERYBODY BECAUSE YOU DON'T.

P.S: aznkid or w/e noone hates america, just some parts of what is a flaw in the american nationalism.

One last thing before you start acting/actually caring or w/e it is that you do regarding this event, unless you had family members die on that day or lost some dear mates of yours, don't even mention it because it's getting REALLY old.



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Virtual Fighter
09-15-2004, 07:23 AM
i dont hate america; i just expects greater things from it.

chadwickton
09-15-2004, 07:35 AM
I saw this one website that had some1 who photographed the pentagon attack. And in this video clip the cameraman was a skeptic because some of the objects on the side of the pentagon werent as damage even though they were right next to the building. The man also said that the blast could have been too small to be from an airplane disaster , it could've been a missle. I've also read somewhere how that plane crash in pennsylvania was a plane that was flying too low and was shot down by one of our planes.

Frankly i dont really follow skeptics but from what i read up on , there is a possibility

DA_VIPA
09-15-2004, 08:59 AM
I do feel sorry for the victims of that day. im sorry to post so late to this but ive sorta been busy and i feel as if its been staged by the american government themselves. how did osouma get so rich? hmmm only the americans can pay him so much money! the money he has can not be obtained in his country for gods sake that money cant be obtained in the whole friggin continent he lives in. and you would imagine that if a country gave you that much money you would be happy and yes anyone would be..but what would the government ask in return? perhaps a terrorist attack and he will be a scapegoat to them, the united states of america being the most powerfull country in the world has done itself no favours with the way they have treated poorer and less developed countries in the past ...well and in current times also. most countries despise america for their overall ignorance and america as a whole knows this and sept 11 is a perfect chance to earn the other countries sympathies and despise asian muslims it is sad that they are brainwashed so that they can kill themselves and wake up in paradise they contradict their own religion so its no just the americans who are to blame? or they are because the leader of the jihad squad of sept 11 was indeed osouma bin laden hmm? did we not read about america giving him lots of money perhaps this was HIS objective maybe he was the one who is told to brainwash those miss guided souls..i wish these stupid conspiracies would end HOW CAN YOU PPL LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE THE GOVERNMENT ISNT HONEST WITH ITS OWN PPL. thats all i got to say on the matter

Maori_Legend
09-15-2004, 06:37 PM
it was quite funni seeing thoes guys jumping out of the building and falling, me and my mates were cracking up, well we were pissed at the time

Virtual Fighter
09-15-2004, 06:40 PM
whaaattt? that was like the msot fliped up part about it; the people falling to their deaths.

sad.. sad... sad... ???

Zpower
09-15-2004, 08:10 PM
9/11 will always be a memory to a nation who thought it was untouchable by the hands of outsiders with cruel intentions. 9/11 to me though however will only remind me how this world is so currupt with evil and a world of cruel people. I dont take sides, I only know facts. The fact is terrorist attacked USA so we attacked them. Doesnt really matter what happens before that, whatever reasons in war before that... Anyhow 9/11 was a sad day indeed. Though if people dont learn from these events and other events in the world. Other 9/11's will happen to not just USA but to EVERY country and every nation in this sad world we live in. Its the truth folks deal with it. Mankind will always wage war and there will always be two sides to everything. Well....untill the Earth is destroyed ofcourse...

DA_VIPA
09-16-2004, 09:02 AM
ignorant americans...you treat the rest of the world like you own it ofcourse this will happen and personally rightly so but wrongly since its innocent that actually died. i wish some1 would nuke ur fliping government so the rest of the world could have some peace.

chadwickton
09-18-2004, 09:43 PM
I do feel sorry for the victims of that day. im sorry to post so late to this but ive sorta been busy and i feel as if its been staged by the american government themselves. how did osouma get so rich? hmmm only the americans can pay him so much money! the money he has can not be obtained in his country for gods sake that money cant be obtained in the whole friggin continent he lives in. and you would imagine that if a country gave you that much money you would be happy and yes anyone would be..but what would the government ask in return? perhaps a terrorist attack and he will be a scapegoat to them, the united states of america being the most powerfull country in the world has done itself no favours with the way they have treated poorer and less developed countries in the past ...well and in current times also. most countries despise america for their overall ignorance and america as a whole knows this and sept 11 is a perfect chance to earn the other countries sympathies and despise asian muslims it is sad that they are brainwashed so that they can kill themselves and wake up in paradise they contradict their own religion so its no just the americans who are to blame? or they are because the leader of the jihad squad of sept 11 was indeed osouma bin laden hmm? did we not read about america giving him lots of money perhaps this was HIS objective maybe he was the one who is told to brainwash those miss guided souls..i wish these stupid conspiracies would end HOW CAN YOU PPL LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE THE GOVERNMENT ISNT HONEST WITH ITS OWN PPL. thats all i got to say on the matter
Osama is so rich because he father was a bigass oil tycoon in Saudi Arabia. And your saying how the continent inwhich the middle east lies on is Asia. Asia has the richest businesses in the whole world. Electronics,automobile , and other industries is where the money's at. The Middle East gets money by mainly selling petroleum products. The only money we really gave in the past to the Middle Eastern area was when the Russians were invaded Afghanistan in the late 1970's and 80's. Osama Bin Laden was born rich , America has dealed with the petroleum industry in Saudi Arabia. I mean the money we sent to Afghanistan in the 80's did do some effect, because a few years after that the Soviet Union fell. Also we suspected Osama Bin Laden because he was apart of a bombing of the world trade center in the earlier 90's. Vipa it maybe your government that brainwashed you, from the looks of it you appear to be more of a communist. Well wherever the hell your from chances are your country's in Iraq.
And you call me and ignorant American, looks like your the one who's ignorant on the topic.

asshole
09-18-2004, 10:38 PM
FUUCK WORLD TRADE!!

WORLD TRADE I$ A DEATH MACHINE!

dominicankid098
09-18-2004, 11:00 PM
You gothic children should really go through a bad experience.

chadwickton
09-19-2004, 08:08 AM
You know whats funny if America is so "hated" then why the hell do we have people from all over coming into our country. It sure aint the water fellas. Its because people enjoy the freedom in the country.

Virtual Fighter
09-19-2004, 08:52 AM
people who like america come here (only to get shuned away by its society) and those who dont, DONT.

just because we get a couple immigrants comming to america DOES NOT mean the entire fliping world loves us.

Angel-Eyes
09-19-2004, 09:04 AM
lots of countries dont like us, but there are only a few small groups that actually hate us.......


the arabs that attacked on 9/11 probably didnt like us, because we're allies with isreal......

chadwickton
09-19-2004, 10:20 AM
mainly the only countries that hate us are terrorist torn countries, some dictatorships, and some communist. However we did make peace offerings to China when Nixon was in office because China was less predictable than the Soviet Union. So i believe they're neutral to us.

Zpower
09-19-2004, 06:58 PM
USA 2 biggest problems are... China and Muslims... end of story. Terriorist are weak.. mainly a large group ofuntrained killers with nothing to lose.. Think we are worried about terrorist? Just a front to lure everyone off what we're really after and getting prepared for. USA is a world super power for a reason... Let the spectators from different countries spectate... like the media.. Only people who matter really knows whats going on...



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iTALY
09-23-2004, 12:38 PM
USA 2 biggest problems are... China and Muslims... end of story. Terriorist are weak.. mainly a large group ofuntrained killers with nothing to lose.. Think we are worried about terrorist? Just a front to lure everyone off what we're really after and getting prepared for. USA is a world super power for a reason... Let the spectators from different countries spectate... like the media.. Only people who matter really knows whats going on...
americans are cocky.

And stop saying "we" as if you know what your ranting on about.

coolplayer2K2
09-23-2004, 12:45 PM
usa is stupid. they think anyone that is muslim and comes to usa are terrorists pfft

alamgir
09-23-2004, 02:11 PM
Well I wouldn't quite say that. but the amount of racism after 9/11 it caused is just so shocking. Its even going on here in england. All these terrorists think they know Islam inside out, when in actual fact they are commiting one of the biggest sins there are.

SSJKarma
09-23-2004, 08:58 PM
I will take the opportunity to speak up while we're still speaking of door nobs !
i wanted to tell you that my Rat has died two days ago !

*thinking*now that is changing subject !

Zpower
09-23-2004, 09:26 PM
I will like to get off subject for a bit. First I'll like to apologize to muslims, chinese if I offended you. I was just stating that USA could possibly have problems with these people, country ect.. See I've learnt that being biased towards another point of view is wrong in itself. Though being wise on both is well. Really this world is in major conflict for many reasons.
We as a people should not strive to work against eachother as race or contest. Though help eachother out so there is no one starving, homeless, or friendless. See we have the power to make this world a better place. Not just for one country but for all people. When we realize this and work as one world as one united body of humans we will never reach our full potential or ever have truely peace in the world.

capcomman12213
09-29-2004, 03:59 PM
i know its off subject but yall should try to like have an event next year on 9/11 like special tourny or even a new charector or somthing like that a once a day charector kinda thing like add a marve| charector for 9/11 each year i mean that would be cool to me(Note: it wouldnt have to stay playable).:cool:

Virtual Fighter
09-29-2004, 05:31 PM
omg.. i cant even begin to comprehend how many things are wrong with your post..

SolidSnake76
09-29-2004, 07:33 PM
i know its off subject but yall should try to like have an event next year on 9/11 like special tourny or even a new charector or somthing like that a once a day charector kinda thing like add a marve| charector for 9/11 each year i mean that would be cool to me(Note: it wouldnt have to stay playable).:cool:
thats just stupid.

--(-
09-29-2004, 07:49 PM
it was quite funni seeing thoes guys jumping out of the building and falling, me and my mates were cracking up, well we were pissed at the time
lmfao, dayumm bro you would have to have been pissed at 9am on a school day ??? .ha, reppin us maori's to the fullest eh?

Iplay2win
09-30-2004, 06:36 AM
lol what if captAIN AMERICA WAS ADDED ON 9/11


buT HE CANT BE ADDED BECAUSE OF COPYRIGHT INFRIDGEMENT OF marve|

blanka09
09-30-2004, 07:27 AM
oh Lord... give me a break would you O_O ?!?!

A new character on September 11.. The words of VF

omg.. i cant even begin to comprehend how many things are wrong with your post..

but on a seroius note.. I don't think that's a good idea to begin with.. not even minding whatever copyright laws restraining SFO.. the fact is, the 9/11 incident was an american (probably world.. ) tragedy and should be commemorated as such.. not adding a special character in an online game.

Virtual Fighter
09-30-2004, 08:00 AM
and on the aniversery of the iraw war, we could add guile (as tribute to the war)!

or is it im a unsensitive loser who just wants charectors and have no shread of decency?

blanka09
09-30-2004, 04:14 PM
The senseless wombats incredibly does thou mirror.



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Virtual Fighter
09-30-2004, 07:56 PM
your dribble speak is making my noggin go owwies :(

blanka09
09-30-2004, 08:02 PM
It's a new language called.. "The Yoda" ... Our manuscripts aren't complete yet.. so there might be difficulties interpreting. Please excuse us. :biggrin:

Riseabove
10-02-2004, 08:48 PM
Aight wow, i spent the last 10 minutes reading most of your opinions on this matter. I cant really blame most of you foreigners for feeling a little rush of satisfaction as you sat and watched a big symbol of america's power topple to the ground. Im sure some of you have jokes, especially you canadians. I cant blame you because your hate is merely a product of your envy. The only knowledge most of you even have of american culture is what you view through your television sets, that is why you tend to generalize things into statements that begin with "You americans are this, you americans think you are that." Because you see our power and control...You begin to view us as a system that triggers your hate. No matter what you think, your hate is meaningless. Many of you are too busy being hopped up on fantasies of anime cartoons and worshipping your technicolor god (television) to ever become motivated enough to empower your own community or to make a difference. It seems to me as the majority of your emotions are triggered through the positive and negative stimulus you experience as the television and internet pumps your head full of their toxic bullpoop ideals and biased views. Maybe you are like 90% of caucasian population in the fact that you are addicted to it. You are addicted to sitting on your couch, or reclining massage chair and flipping the channels as you let the tainted images of the world kinda swim around in front of you as they marinade and intertwine with your fliping bullpoop morals and twisted ideals that have been spoonfed to you liek the strained peas your mother stuffed down your throat since infancy!!!! heh heh...whooaa nelly.


our american government pumped up the drug supply during the vietnam war so that all of the protestors would be too busy tripping balls off of golden sun lsd tabs to get organized and make an impact.


You are just like the politicians you hate. Playing that hate game, finger pointing. Now you shake your finger at us like "i told you so" nobody deserves to die. it just happens. SSJ KARMA you speak of death as if you know something about it. you mentality is "Who cares if one person or a million people die on the same day..." You dont care right? Not really a big deal jsut as long as it's nobody you care about right? You have no concept of death. You cant even imagine the fliping pain one must go through in order to die.


In a way i am doign the same thing, i am pointing a finger as well..but in my case it is the middle one and i am pointing it towards at the sky. I dont know about your culture(s) but in my culture when people die we build memorials to somehow immortalize the memories spent together. To pay tribute to all that they once were and all they could have been. Life to lifeless...when i say it like that it doesnt sound like it is that much..they simply stop breathing right? I only hope that you are at peace when your flow of consciousnss comes to an abrupt end. Because after that string snaps and your life is over....Yo. poop changes.


Yeah america has done some bad stuff to get ahead. I aint proud of alot of poop. many americans seem very arrogant and i feel the same way. I hate most americans, especially when i am driving. Nothing more anoying than being stuck in a 1 lane road behind some asshole who drives a pencil-dick SUV and the only thing you have to pass the time is to read his Pro-War republican bumper stickers. "Support the troops" "Never forget" "FDNY" all that poop is fliping propaganda. If they cared so much they would trade in that ugly SUV for something a bit more fuel efficient. Because those troops that they "support" are apparently dying for that fuel. Support the troops by conserving it heh. flip the Fire Departent, flip the troops, I am white (fyi)...but i can also understand why everybody hates white people. Maybe people would be more unified if they made bumper stickers that said "God Bless Farmers" or "I Love Brown People Too" lol or..."Yeah...crack and aids?? that was us. Sorry" ok scratch that last one because ir eally have no idea who is to blame for crack and aids. I dont know anything about crack n aids...sounds like a balanced breakfast to me motherfliper!! MMMM!!! CRACK N AIDS!!!


k im getting way off topic. Lemme just kinda sum it up for ya all real quick becauze i am sure most of you wont be able to keep your eyes open long enough to read all of this. Nobody is perfect, so if you wanna blame us for our arrogance and say we deserved it then we will blame you for your ignorance and say you dont deserve sh!t.


Like me for example..i am biased against most anime junkies (even though i love anime, it's cool) some people just watch anime and like all of a sudden they are a ninja when they log onto the internet. People who watch anime create the most reatrded illusions of themselves because they know that when they are online it is the only time they can pass themselves off as something as legendary as the stories they hold oh so dear. (fake persona) So i really cant take your opinions seriosuly because i can only picture your heads being filled with cotton candy. the end.



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Virtual Fighter
10-02-2004, 09:16 PM
EDIT: wtf? you edited your post and now some of the stuff i'm reffering to i cant find and or you moved :(

ehh.. the only thing that im sorta un easy about in your post is the "we immortalize the day thousands die"

when was pearl horber?
fliped if i know. (actually, i do know but thats just because i watch alot of history channel)

hundreds if not thousands of people die from car accidents every day, and another hundred if not thousands die from smoking related deaths. we dont celebrate the day they die, right?

just becasue alot of people died sencelessly in one evening doesnt meen we should immoralize the day, and start a whole agenda because of it. yes they died. yes it is messed up. but with rememborance, sadness is spawned. from sadness, remorce is spawned. from remorse, fear is spawned. and fear, well.. that turns into hate.

for instance, a good freind of mine died in a SUV related accident. i was sad because she died, for about 2 days. then, i really got pissed at the SUVs because they were partially at fault.

not, mutliply that by 3000 and instead of SUVs slap a "terrorist" lable, closley related to being arab.

so, from that, you being to dispise arabs, and turn off your mind, relax and let the ignorance flow through.

and since then, im pretty sure (if not certain) that for once african americans and latinos are not the most discriminated against in the USA, im pretty sure its middle easterners.



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Riseabove
10-03-2004, 11:52 PM
was that a reply to my post? it didnt really sound like much of a reply. Im saying tho, yeah people die every day. but sometimes it is a little worse than other times. The distinction you are attempting to make is that the thousands of people that died in the world trade center is comparable to the thousands of people that die in car accidents every month. Correct?

I can tell you the difference though. One is an accident, One is murder. You may think that is besides the point because, death is death. let's face it though, death os a very powerful thing. We build memorials to immortalize it. Every culture, every generation has found ways to immortalize the dead. That is human nature, it is something we have begun doing almost instinctively. When we lose people we love, we begin to feel lost ourselves. In order to heal some people need to know that their loved ones will not be forgotten. They need ot know that people still care. Many of the victims families are still looking for closure, and it is very difficult sometimes to know where to look.

as a New Yorker i see how it effects people still to this day. Gotta rally to support them. Most of you guys coment on 9/11 arent New Yorkers. You see it on the television screen and you think that these memorials are meant for everybody to look at.

If you want to blame somebody for the overexposure, blame the media. The memorial sevices that go on here in NY are for the victims families. The newscasters just kinda stand around the outside of ground zero behind the fences and zoom in on all the sad faces that came to mourn their lost relatives and friends. They didnt ask to be on tv. that is why i despise the news. These memorials are really only meant for New Yorkers and the Victims Families. we dont expect the rest of the world to understand the seriousness. especially the way the media makes little catch phrases for everything. In a way the news is just presenting it to you as entertainment. Too many people are looking for ways to profit off of all of this. News channels, That farenheigh 9/11 douchebag that everyone thinks is so rad (i forget his name i only remember him by his fat face) I dont even know if i should say this but i mean look carefully at what is going on? Cant you see that the media is being used to fool our adversaries? The use of media itself is a war strategy. They know our opponents in the middle east like to watch our news programs for what little solid information they can get. So it is all regulated. It is a perfect opportunity to trick our opponents.

For example everyone was getting all mad at the media for showing details of our attack plan on the ten o clock news at the beginnning of the war in iraq. That was done purposely to trick people. Umm..poop man, they have even gone as far as to broadcast false wars on american television. yes meaning, they would jsut show you some old war footage and tell you that it is some ####attle errupting in asia or some skirmish with the chinese. Those were back in the black and white days. You can never really know what you are looking at.


If this war was about honor then they would have already caught Osama Bin Laden and slit his throat. The government plays to win. Iraq is merely a pawn in this game. We just hadda check iraq to eliminate the threat of a nuclear assault on american soil before we get down to the real business. trust me the government has this poop elaborately planned out. Doesnt matter if we get a democrat or a liberal in office for the next term. Nothing can stop it. The entire world is governed by a specific group of corporations. the end.



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alamgir
10-04-2004, 06:00 AM
Check Iraq? Do you call starting a war on an innocent country, destroying the lives of many, and trrigering more violent attacks such as suicide bombing, and still not finding any signs of weapons of mass destruction, checking?

Virtual Fighter
10-04-2004, 08:05 AM
[color=#FF0000]I can tell you the difference though. One is an accident, One is murder.
1700+ people die from murders in los angeles alone every year, with an average of 3 people being slane every day. Where is the

Riseabove
10-14-2004, 11:31 PM
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I can tell you the difference though. One is an accident, One is murder.

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1700+ people die from murders in los angeles alone every year, with an average of 3 people being slane every day. Where is the

Virtual Fighter
10-15-2004, 07:35 AM
[color=#F52887]Yeah, dude. Death is death and it doesnt matter that much if one affects a greater amount of people at once. Yeah, its definately gonna send a bigger message. Its the difference between "!!!!!!!!" and "......" but you kinda contradict yourself in a later point which i will later note.


damn. I hate it when I do that >=(


1. I said blame the media for overexposure, who said anything about letting people know what happened?
well, it not the media, who will tell us about things? Oh yeah, no one, because anyone who says ANYTIHNG, is bias.

Believe it or not the newspaper and television are biased as well. Most of the poop on newspapers and television lean towards the right wing. Look a little more carefully. At least on the net you can see it from different perspectives. Everything is biased.

What are you talking about? The stereotype is that the media is controlled by liberals. Fox news is right wing, and fxnews 2 is also liberal.

The net is even MORE bias than TV. At least in TV, you have a filter, and someone to regulate free speech. On the net, you don

Riseabove
10-15-2004, 08:20 AM
you made some good points as well, bro i wont deny you that. You're definately smarter than the avg. bear, and im glad you are at least away, we have similar opinions on things anyway, its just the mood i wasw in when i wrote the first one, i was feeling a LITTLE bit right wing. I consider myself a prettty liberal, but now im starting to scare myself a little bit because im beginning to understand why the republicans do the things they do and i dont necessarily agree with everything, yet i can understand why. I am still prettyt liberal about pretty much everything. I dont want a republican in office, i dont want us to take over the world. I pray that everyone can be more accepting of other peoples ways of life. and now it boils down to us having diff opinions about stupid poop heh. I just think theres somethin evil about how much money they milked out of everything. I know you can understand that. but i hear what you are saying bro, and i understand. It's just like, when you open up the paper first thing in the morning, i dont need to see a man blindfolded rdy to be decapitaed. I mean, i made the mistake of watching the decapitation videos on ogrish.com lol. So like every time i even see a picture of someone who was captured i see mental images of dudes getting a blade slashed across their neck and hearing them gargle on their own blood with their death cry. It sucks what is going on bro. I know it sucks, we all know it sucks, but if i just concentrate on my own practices and my ownn studies and my own LIFE keep that poop out of my mind. it gives me that much more of a positive state of mind and a greater sense of wellbeing to stay strong and succeed i think. but you are right too. It's not always bad to know if there's a rapist in your neighborhood. That way it enables you to be aware and take the proper precautions. which is also very important. You made great good points, on BOTH topics. If i was your teacher i would give you an A. but im not a teacher, yet.

EDite: excuse my horrible grammar on all three of my posts in this topic. They all just neded up being so fliping long and i was so tired i just wanted to type em as fast as possible. heh.



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Virtual Fighter
10-15-2004, 04:16 PM
[color=#F52887]you made some good points as well, bro i wont deny you that.
you did too. A lot of things, I just bit my toung about, and hope you wouldn