Just another 'war' thread. - But you actually "discuss" here.. :d

[asshole]

Ok, is there anyone else here who is Anti-the American Government here?
I know Nantuko Joe isn't cuz we've had LONG discussions about this before, but is there anyone else?

The reason why I made this toPic is because, I just find it a LITTLE wierd how ALL the old enemies of America are turning to it NOW... or maybe is it that, after US attacked Afghanistan, they had all the countries terrified so now Bush thinks he can do anything... and attack any country.

Think about it, I mean I know that 9/11 attacks haPPened outta nowhere, and US attacked them back, but then why did US go after Iraq? Their reason was "Because we are gonna get our solider back who was kidnaPPed 10 fuucking years ago!" and their other one was " Because they have weaPons of Mass Destruction", they never even gave us a GOOD reason.. so now they go attacking them!? Pitiful!!

Oh and now North Korea..
A silent country... is being blamed for interferring with US?
HOW LOW can BUSH/Government go?

[marvel911]

I've seen enough on Tv, in the paper, and in the forum to just stop caring about it anymore...

[Scorponok]

they never even gave us a GOOD reason.. so now they go attacking them!? Pitiful!!
I hate being sucked into these debate thingys :biggrin:

Didn't they agree to a UN resolution after the Gulf War, but didn't stick to their word? Even after a few more were passed. Like when Carter paid North Korea and got his Nobel Prize, lol.

[KidKrazyShit]

Ok, is there anyone else here who is Anti-the American Government here?
I know Nantuko Joe isn't cuz we've had LONG discussions about this before, but is there anyone else?

No, only j00 :biggrin:

The reason why I made this toPic is because, I just find it a LITTLE wierd how ALL the old enemies of America are turning to it NOW... or maybe is it that, after US attacked Afghanistan, they had all the countries terrified so now Bush thinks he can do anything... and attack any country.

By saying "Bush thinks he can do anything" just proves how VERY little you know about what's been going on. I suggest: CNN (http://www.cnn.com)

Think about it, I mean I know that 9/11 attacks haPPened outta nowhere, and US attacked them back, but then why did US go after Iraq? Their reason was "Because we are gonna get our solider back who was kidnaPPed 10 fuucking years ago!" and their other one was " Because they have weaPons of Mass Destruction", they never even gave us a GOOD reason.. so now they go attacking them!? Pitiful!!

so...you think someone holding weapons of mass destruction isn't a good reason? what? do you live in a bomb shelter? Cause I don't.

We are attacking them for many reasons. To stop them from producing MORE weapons of mass destruction. To stop him from producing more chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons. We know he has them b/c he's used them before.

Oh and now North Korea..
A silent country... is being blamed for interferring with US?
HOW LOW can BUSH/Government go?

Now you've got me there. I haven't heard him say that yet.

But all man, and his ppl, are trying to do is protect us. Look at it this way: It's either them or us. Personally, I prefer them. We're not the one's sneaking around our own country hiding. Bush doesn't have doubles standing in for him on public occasions, and I don't care what you ppl say. The man that was on TV last night was not Sadam.

the US doesn't use it's own ppl as sheilds. We don't tortue ppl.

We've done everything we can, and war is the last option. We gave them 10 years to get rid of his weapons, and he still has them.

He must be found, and killed(or have his power removed)



Edited By KidKrazyShit on Mar. 20 2003 at 18:51

[Gothic Archangel]

[color=crimson]There has been so many reasons why we're attacking
Iraq that's it's Bull

[SolidSnake76]

what i cant really understand is why didnt the UN stop bush? he gonna give the US a bad look.

and that man that was on TV really wasnt saddam, i knew that when i just saw him.

-the real one dont wear glasses all the time, and those look like he borrowed from drew carey.
-the face is a give away, more grey on the mustach, puffier cheeks, that man has to be older than the real one, at least 7 years or so.
-the guy is reading his speech notes.

the guy has like 7 doubles or so.

anyway, disarmerment and capturing saddam, or whatever they plan to do, is a good enough reason for me. the guy a similar to hitler in a way. torture his own citizens? how twisted can the man be?

and the next idiot to come in here saying 'we gonna kill some iraqis' and bullsh.it like that will....................i not even gonna say it.

[Gothic Archangel]

Well SolidSnake76, Iraq is not the only country
to torture it's citizens. Like I said, Chin, Iran and Saudi
Arabia also do it.

And Yes Saddam has like 7-8 Doubles.

Smart Man >D

[asshole]

[Red Font - KKS]
[Black Font - Me]


By saying "Bush thinks he can do anything" just proves how VERY little you know about what's been going on. I suggest: CNN (http://www.cnn.com)

How little I know ehh..? Yet you SUGGEST me a website which is MADE by Americans..
Hey I'm sure you listen to that System Of A Down band, well listen to their words... "Don't believe ONLY what you see on T.V and read on the Net"...

so...you think someone holding weapons of mass destruction isn't a good reason? what? do you live in a bomb shelter? Cause I don't.

We are attacking them for many reasons. To stop them from producing MORE weapons of mass destruction. To stop him from producing more chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons. We know he has them b/c he's used them before.

Dude, how can you even say that?
I'll say it again, he's SAID to have had the weaPons for about 6 years now, well he didn't do $HIT with them then, why would he now?
And America doens't even KNOW if he DOES have them or not.. That's fuxin' LAME!!!
But I ask now, Why is it OK for America to have WMD(weapons of...) but not any other country?
It's not like U.S wouldn't/doesn't use them!


But all man, and his ppl, are trying to do is protect us. Look at it this way: It's either them or us. Personally, I prefer them. We're not the one's sneaking around our own country hiding. Bush doesn't have doubles standing in for him on public occasions, and I don't care what you ppl say. The man that was on TV last night was not Sadam.

Yeah Bush doesn't have Doubles cuz he's not worried that another country might come to US and attack him...

I'll say this, and not to mention that my History teacher loved me saying this..
I said that, I think the man is a Genious for doing doubles of him.. that's like the BEST idea ever, America has Proven to the world before that they have secret sPies.. do you remember that one Person, Fidel Castro, the dictator of Cuba.. Do you remember how US tried to kill him with a Blwo uP Cigar?
Well don't you think that Suddam is SMART to make doubles of himself?

the US doesn't use it's own ppl as sheilds. We don't tortue ppl.

We've done everything we can, and war is the last option. We gave them 10 years to get rid of his weapons, and he still has them.

He must be found, and killed(or have his power removed)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
US gave him 10 years?
Well anyway... yeah ok, you gave him 10 freaking years to get rid of the WMD, which the US STILL doesn't know if he has them or not!
Oh man, learn some facts before suggesting me to...

[KidKrazyShit]

how the mighty have fallen. Just to raise your own ego, you say "Oh man, learn some facts before suggesting me to" please...

[color=red][Red Font - me]
[Black Font - asshole]

How little I know ehh..? Yet you SUGGEST me a website which is MADE by Americans..
Hey I'm sure you listen to that System Of A Down band, well listen to their words... "Don't believe ONLY what you see on T.V and read on the Net"...

cough...I don't get my personal advice from musical bands. That's just plain retarded. I can't believe you even used them in this debate.

I'll say it again, he's SAID to have had the weaPons for about 6 years now, well he didn't do $HIT with them then, why would he now?
And America doens't even KNOW if he DOES have them or not.. That's fuxin' LAME!!!
But I ask now, Why is it OK for America to have WMD(weapons of...) but not any other country?
It's not like U.S wouldn't/doesn't use them!

You think someone would fire WMD as soon as they get them? Sadam's a smart man(you know what I mean) Most likely, he's been plotting for years. C'mon asshole, use your damn head, you know he has the weapons. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

You wanna explain to me when the UN went to inspect Iraq, they weren't aloud in a lot of areas? what do you think they're keeping in those areas? DUH!!!!! WMD

I'll say this, and not to mention that my History teacher loved me saying this..
I said that, I think the man is a Genious for doing doubles of him.. that's like the BEST idea ever, America has Proven to the world before that they have secret sPies.. do you remember that one Person, Fidel Castro, the dictator of Cuba.. Do you remember how US tried to kill him with a Blwo uP Cigar?
Well don't you think that Suddam is SMART to make doubles of himself?

I'll agree w/ you there. He's a smart...very scared...man.

US gave him 10 years?
Well anyway... yeah ok, you gave him 10 freaking years to get rid of the WMD, which the US STILL doesn't know if he has them or not!

Once again, get some damn common sense. I don't actually have to see them in Iraq, to know they are there. Just...use your head.

Oh, and asshole...is it possible for you to go through a debate w/ out getting all hissy pissy about it. You act like it's life or death or something. just chill out.

[Nantuko Joe]

Ok, is there anyone else here who is Anti-the American Government here?
I know Nantuko Joe isn't cuz we've had LONG discussions about this before, but is there anyone else?

The reason why I made this toPic is because, I just find it a LITTLE wierd how ALL the old enemies of America are turning to it NOW... or maybe is it that, after US attacked Afghanistan, they had all the countries terrified so now Bush thinks he can do anything... and attack any country.

Think about it, I mean I know that 9/11 attacks haPPened outta nowhere, and US attacked them back, but then why did US go after Iraq? Their reason was "Because we are gonna get our solider back who was kidnaPPed 10 fuucking years ago!" and their other one was " Because they have weaPons of Mass Destruction", they never even gave us a GOOD reason.. so now they go attacking them!? Pitiful!!

Oh and now North Korea..
A silent country... is being blamed for interferring with US?
HOW LOW can BUSH/Government go?
1) Saddam Hussein is a terrorost. He has used biological and chemical weapons on HIS OWN PEOPLE, KILLING AND INJURING OVER 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE

2) Saddam Hussein harbors terrorists, and actually allowed Al Qaeda (sp) to hide out in Iraq after the 9/11 attacks.

3) We've already given him 12 fcuking years to disarm. He has yet to disarm. How much longer do you wanna give him?

4) Our objective is not to destroy Iraq. Our only objective is to eliminate Saddam: by either killing him or forced exile. We want to make Iraq a democratic country. No more ruthless dictatorial regime

5) For the record, Iraqi people who have escaped from Iraq and are living in democratic countries (Britain, America) have supported our recent actions, saying that Iraq and the Iraqi people have been through too much at the hands of Saddam, and want him either ousted or killed. THE IRAQI PEOPLE WANT US TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING!!! So if we have the support of the Iraqi citizens who want Saddam out, then why are YOU so anti-war, anti-america?

6) North Korea? Puh-leez. They're not interfering with the US. Like Iraq, North Korea is being ruled by a dictator. A pretty violent and ruthless one at that. And what does he want to do? He wants to make North Korea a nuclear country, and arm himself with nuclear weapons. Now let's analyze this situation for a moment....a ruthless dictator with possession of nuclear weapons. Hrmm...what's wrong with that picture?

7) Another thing, just to clear a lot of shiznit up:
-Our only objective is to oust Saddam and his entire regime out of office. If killing him is the only solution, then so be it (there are a LOT of people, Iraqis included, who want to see him dead). We are not in there because we want oil. We are not in there to be bullies. We are in there to free a country of a ruthless leader who kills his own people and is in possession of deadly chemical and biological weapons. That's it.

8) Just for the record, i realize that a lot of you anti-america people live in other countries. But I have a little message for anyone who lives in america, and is anti-america:

This is america. If you don't like it, then get the fcuk out.

[Scorponok]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
US gave him 10 years?
Well anyway... yeah ok, you gave him 10 freaking years to get rid of the WMD, which the US STILL doesn't know if he has them or not!
Oh man, learn some facts before suggesting me to...
Even though the Scuds aren't really WMD, as you put it, he wasn't supposed to have them, but according to the military a Patriot shot one down..

[asshole]

[Red Font - KKS]
[Green - NantukoJizoe]
[Darkblue - Me]

cough...I don't get my personal advice from musical bands. That's just plain retarded. I can't believe you even used them in this debate.

Ha.. You tell me that's Plain retarted to take words off of a Musician is ratarted when they COULD be/are right.. What makes the other Media PeoPle much better? Are they a different sPecie(sP), that everything they say IS right? Are they other forms of Abe Lincoln? NO, right? then why take their words?
And when exactly did I take their words?
I believe exactly what they believe, and that I still do.. "Don't believe in what you hear from YOUR PeoPle...

You think someone would fire WMD as soon as they get them? Sadam's a smart man(you know what I mean) Most likely, he's been plotting for years. C'mon asshole, use your damn head, you know he has the weapons. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

Well, they wouldn't USE them RIGHT AWAY... but common waiting 6(12) years is just stuPid, and even after the 9/11 attacks, if he wanetd to do anythin, that was his BEST CHANCE...

Once again, get some damn common sense. I don't actually have to see them in Iraq, to know they are there. Just...use your head.

So.. yer telling me that what you and the others of America ASSUME is right?

Oh, and asshole...is it possible for you to go through a debate w/ out getting all hissy pissy about it. You act like it's life or death or something. just chill out.

Hey bro.. I never said I was Pissed! I'm just being serious, you always see me joking and $hit, but when I act serious doesn't mean that im PISSED... I'm just debating like any other normal person would.. with reasons and a smart attitude.. Wouldn't ya agree?




Saddam Hussein is a terrorost.

He's a terrorist to ONLY this Country! Because he's going against it.. WOW!!!

Saddam Hussein harbors terrorists, and actually allowed Al Qaeda (sp) to hide out in Iraq after the 9/11 attacks.

Go ahead and Prove that to me.. Unless I MISSED it on the Media (cough), I have no knowledge of that.. and i'm not gonna take anyones' WORD on that, I want Pics and other reasonable Proof!

We've already given him 12 fcuking years to disarm. He has yet to disarm. How much longer do you wanna give him?

America gave him 10 years to disarm something that is STILL not proven if it's there or not!


This is america. If you don't like it, then get the fcuk out.

Oh man.. WWHHYY did you say that? Yo just Proved to me that yer just one of those "Redneck fuxing Terrorists" I was talking about in your Forums when I was threatened to be Banned...
And when did I say that I don't like America?
I love America, I love/hate its' PeoPle!
But when it comes to the Government and other Political $hit, that's where I am the oPPosite...

P.S: I REALLY wish you wouldn't have said that!

[Nantuko Joe]

He's a terrorist to ONLY this Country! Because he's going against it.. WOW!!!

He's a terrorist to his own country, you fcuking jackass. What do you call using deadly chemical and biological weapons to kill and stricken 1.5 MILLION of his own people?

Go ahead and Prove that to me.. Unless I MISSED it on the Media (cough), I have no knowledge of that.. and i'm not gonna take anyones' WORD on that, I want Pics and other reasonable Proof!

You must have missed it, and I'm not gonna waste my time trying to find proof so I can argue against some anti-american racist moron over the internet.

Pictures? Yeah, we've got al qaeda hiding out in Iraq, and what do you expect? Pictures? What, do you think we got some american journalist ask Bin Laden and Saddam to pose for a picture together? Get real.

America gave him 10 years to disarm something that is STILL not proven if it's there or not!

Really? So how about this:
-We have a treaty that allows UN weapons inspectors in-country. In the past 12 years, every time the UN came close to finding weapons, he has kicked them out (I <span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>think</span>) a total of 34 times, because he was afraid that we would find the weapons.
-JUST LAST MONTH, WE FOUND THE WEAPONS!!! THAT'S PROOF THAT THE $HIT'S THERE!

Oh man.. WWHHYY did you say that? Yo just Proved to me that yer just one of those "Redneck fuxing Terrorists" I was talking about in your Forums when I was threatened to be Banned...
And when did I say that I don't like America?
I love America, I love/hate its' PeoPle!
But when it comes to the Government and other Political $hit, that's where I am the oPPosite...

How am I a redneck terrorist? Please explain that to me. First of all, I live in New-fcuking-Jersey, not in hicksville, so that automatically rules out the redneck part. Secondly, how am I a terrorist? Because I'm sick and tired of ppl who LIVE IN AMERICA saying "fcuk america, bla bla bla?"

And if you hate the american ppl, then you hate america. You can't say "i love america, i hate its ppl", because our ppl is what make our country so great.

Like I said, if you don't like it, then get the fcuk out. It's as simple as that. We said that back during the Vietnam war too. If you don't like it, then leave. There's nothing terroristic about that statement. There's nothing redneck about that statement. That statement is nothing but truth, and nothing but the american people's opinion about you anti-American fcukheads and fcuking hippy peaceniks that live in here.

By the way, I love how you ignored the facts of my post. How we're only in there to oust Saddam. How we have the support of the free Iraqi people. And how, aside from France and Russia for their greediness, we have the support of pretty much the rest of the world (aside from those fcuking peacenik representatives of the UN)

I tell ya, WHEN we actually do go in there and expose to the world the torture chambers, missle silos, and the actual chemical and biological weapons themselves (i guess finding USED WARHEADS wasn't good enough for you ppl), it will be telling the world that all you fcuking doubters were wrong.

[DanYankees]

President Bush MUST do this. Sadam MUST be stopped. You say war will kill many americans, but in the process we will be saving thousands of Iraqi lives. You must see why Bush is doing this. The war will be like it was in 1991 with Former President Bush. Many opposed this war against Iraq, but how long did it last for? A few days. Hussein will be disarmed and communism will be out of the country. It will be the first big step to the end of communism AND terrorism.

[DarkLink23]

u ppl should stop makin this worthless topics where ppl just flame and spread their opinions senslessly without reason.Someone close this plz

[asshole]

Dude Joe seriously.. YOu besta chill the fux out..
You don't even knwo HOW Pissed I am.. more than you (other reasons also)..
Honestly you always talk about how you would beat someones ass if you saw them in reality, well i'll give you my fuxing address, i'm not scraed of a whiny bitch like you.. FUUCK OFF!!

And how are you a "redneck terrorist"?
It's not like I mean yer a REDNECK, it's just me stating out that yer a frikkin terrorist and an American therefore a Redneck.. Well instead of exPlaining it, you should just go read the other thread, it exPlains it in there!


And Last month found weaPons?
WWhhaatt??

Oh like you said, when you go and OD find the weaPons, yes then ill shut uP... until then ill sPeak my ass out till it bleeds!



And how can you NOT like America and hate it's people?
Btw, I did say "love/hate".. love some and hate some...
Understand?



Oh and once again, if you keeP wanna act like a tough asshole, ill give you my fukcing address, and YES i'm serious about this..
Call me any name you want, it won't to me right now... call me anything by my stuPidity, it'll just Piss me off more till the day we actually see each other!
SWEAR!

[machine1]

man alot of war topics but i guess its on all our minds

[Scorponok]

Hussein will be disarmed and communism will be out of the country.
Communism? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't communism completely different than what's in Iraq?

[Gothic Archangel]

Nankuto Joe
Oh and now North Korea..
A silent country... is being blamed for interferring with US?
HOW LOW can BUSH/Government go?
1) Saddam Hussein is a terrorost. He has used biological and chemical weapons on HIS OWN PEOPLE, KILLING AND INJURING OVER 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE

2) Saddam Hussein harbors terrorists, and actually allowed Al Qaeda (sp) to hide out in Iraq after the 9/11 attacks.

8) Just for the record, i realize that a lot of you anti-america people live in other countries. But I have a little message for anyone who lives in america, and is anti-america:

This is america. If you don't like it, then get the fcuk out.
Ok Joe, I agree with most of your points.
But
1. Saddam Hussein did not harbor AL Qaeda Terrorist. Saddam Hussein is NOT] muslim and has killed a group of muslims before. Thus AL-Qaeda's "Jihad" and Saddam do NOT go together.
Saudia Arabi, Iran, Afghanistan (sp?)Harbored Al-Qaeda terrorist, not Saddam..

8. You were doing great Joe, but that was just a biased patriotic comment. :\

Nantuko Joe

Really? So how about this:
-We have a treaty that allows UN weapons inspectors in-country. In the past 12 years, every time the UN came close to finding weapons, he has kicked them out (I think) a total of 34 times, because he was afraid that we would find the weapons.
-JUST LAST MONTH, WE FOUND THE WEAPONS!!! THAT'S PROOF THAT THE $HIT'S THERE!

They found Scud missles. Weapons of Mass Destruction were never found.

And if you hate the american ppl, then you hate america. You can't say "i love america, i hate its ppl", because our ppl is what make our country so great.

He didn't say that he hated America or the American people. However people can say that if they want to. It's call the Freedom of Speech. Don't make nosoul4evr Post the constituion :laugh:

Scorponok

Communism? Correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't communism completely different than what's in Iraq?

Yes you are correct >D

[Dan Hibiki]

asshole, your course of logic makes me want to throw up. Your arguments are so illogical it baffles my mind how such biased hatred and stupidity can exist in this world.

Let me set things straight:

1. Saddam Hussein is a Muslim, and the type of Muslim he is is the minority in Iraq. He prays and makes constant calls for action on the part of Arabs and Muslims worldwide, of which everybody ignores.

2. Al-Qaeda terrorists trained in Iraq. Satellite imaging shows the terrorist camps in Iraq, and Saddam denied it and wouldn't let anybody do anything about it.

3. Inspectors found warheads capable of spreading chemical and biological agents in Iraq. WMD, plain and simple.

I find it intriguing that this topic is supposed to be a debate, and yet I see no debating. Just an anti-American talking about how much America sucks and America lies, and then everybody who has half a brain telling him how things are.

Oh, I forgot:

4. Saddam Hussein may already be dead. We got very good, very specific intelligence a few days ago, and within hours of the deadline passing we found out where he, his two sons, and a good part of his military leadership. Within two hours of finding out, we dropped two 2,000lb. bunker buster bombs and launched a barrage of Tomahawk cruise missiles.

[machine1]

its probably just 1 of sadam hussein's "look a likes"

[SaddamHussein]

asshole, your course of logic makes me want to throw up. Your arguments are so illogical it baffles my mind how such biased hatred and stupidity can exist in this world.

Let me set things straight:

1. Saddam Hussein is a Muslim, and the type of Muslim he is is the minority in Iraq. He prays and makes constant calls for action on the part of Arabs and Muslims worldwide, of which everybody ignores.

2. Al-Qaeda terrorists trained in Iraq. Satellite imaging shows the terrorist camps in Iraq, and Saddam denied it and wouldn't let anybody do anything about it.

3. Inspectors found warheads capable of spreading chemical and biological agents in Iraq. WMD, plain and simple.

I find it intriguing that this topic is supposed to be a debate, and yet I see no debating. Just an anti-American talking about how much America sucks and America lies, and then everybody who has half a brain telling him how things are.

Oh, I forgot:

4. Saddam Hussein may already be dead. We got very good, very specific intelligence a few days ago, and within hours of the deadline passing we found out where he, his two sons, and a good part of his military leadership. Within two hours of finding out, we dropped two 2,000lb. bunker buster bombs and launched a barrage of Tomahawk cruise missiles.
Yet the United Nations didn't agwe

includin Fwance, Germany and Russia

http://home.attbi.com/~ostegodead/grinsh.gif

I have no wepons of moss destuctiion

[machine1]

its people like u who should be banned

[SaddamHussein]

I know you kid
he he he he

[asshole]

asshole, your course of logic makes me want to throw up. Your arguments are so illogical it baffles my mind how such biased hatred and stupidity can exist in this world.

Dude seriously... I know how yer always known for crying about this and that.. but try to keeP it out of this forum, why do you think yer the smartest Person alive? And as for you saying that I don't knwo $hit, well just to let you know, everytime there's a Political debate in my school, guess who's chosen to always rePresent it?
History might be the only thing im good at, but that's doesn't mean $hit.. I'm DAMNED good at it.

Let me set things straight:

1. Saddam Hussein is a Muslim, and the type of Muslim he is is the minority in Iraq. He prays and makes constant calls for action on the part of Arabs and Muslims worldwide, of which everybody ignores.

Is this something you heard?

2. Al-Qaeda terrorists trained in Iraq. Satellite imaging shows the terrorist camps in Iraq, and Saddam denied it and wouldn't let anybody do anything about it.

I've never heard $hit about those...

3. Inspectors found warheads capable of spreading chemical and biological agents in Iraq. WMD, plain and simple.

Ohh.. MY ASS!!

I find it intriguing that this topic is supposed to be a debate, and yet I see no debating. Just an anti-American talking about how much America sucks and America lies, and then everybody who has half a brain telling him how things are.

Who ever said i'm an Anti-American? I mean sure I hate the Government, but when did I say i'm an Anti-American? I swear, everytime PeoPle read these kinda debates, they either call me one of 2 things, an Anti-American Person or a Person who knows $hit...
Just because i'm trying to find Justice doens't mean i'm anti-american.. dickhead!

[asshole]

its people like u who should be banned
I don't think he should be banned...
I mean it's HIS right to do what he wants, so leave him at that!

I mean in NO WAY am I suPPorting Suddam Hussien(the real guy), but let the forum dude do what he wants..

[Nantuko Joe]

Dude, do you even watch the news? Read the newspaper? Have you been living under a fcuking rock for the past few months? We FOUND casings from chemical warheads. Empty, but still casings. We FOUND a chemical warhead, not empty. This PROVES that he has WMD, and is a good enough reason for us to go in.

He HAS harbored Al Qaeda in Iraq, and refused to let anyone go in there and do anything about it. We have proof, as Hibiki said, we have pictures and satellite imaging.

Whether or not you choose to believe the $hit we're telling you doesn't make our FACTS any less factual, any less relevant. Because you choose not to believe the facts, it doesn't mean the facts don't exist.

We have FACTS, PROOF. You choose to ignore it and choose to not believe it. However, despite your objections, these facts and proof exist. So in the end, what you choose to believe isn't worth $hit.

Also, just because I'm american makes me a redneck? And just because I don't like anti-americans makes me a terrorist? You're just a fcuking anti-american racist bastard. Like I said, if you don't like americans, then get the fcuk out and go back to wherever you came from. I don't care. I just don't want to hear your bull$hit anymore.

[asshole]

Ok.. you got Proves now ill shut uP, but now Prove to me that what you saw/read is REAL!

You KNOW how America has told the PeoPle lies before.. You KNOW (or should) what haPPened with Grenada!
You KNOW what haPPened with that one country next to Vietnam I believe..

Yet you still believe the Media?
HA!!



Oh and as fro calling me an Anti-American bracist bastard..
<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>WHEN THE FUX DID I SAY I'M ANTI AMERICA? HOW AM I RACIST? JUST BECAUSE I DON"T LIKE WHAT AMERICA DOES, DOESN'T MEAN $HIT!! It's NOT LIKE I'M SUPPORTING SUDDAM!! I WISH THE BASTARDS DIES MYSELF!</span>
So, quit with yer #### and act right without getting all Pissed, otherwise like I said, ill give you my fuucking address, it's haPPened before, twice, wouldn't bother me again!

[DanYankees]

Whatever Scorponok...it's something worse than communism.

Well thank you Joe and Hibiki. You brought out great points...

er...yes

[SolidSnake76]

joe is right about everything. the proof, facts, everything. i now in full support of this war, even the iraqi pple are thxing the US and british troops. do u really know what this man had been doing to his own pple?

one woman on dateline[or whatever, it had barbera walters] came out about what happen to her. iraqi police poured gasoline on her and set her on fire, for NO absolute reason. next thing u know, he launches a missile at the capital of kuwait.

asshole, i dont know what to say to u but maybe u should spend one day in baghdad.

[Nantuko Joe]

Ok.. you got Proves now ill shut uP, but now Prove to me that what you saw/read is REAL!

You KNOW how America has told the PeoPle lies before.. You KNOW (or should) what haPPened with Grenada!
You KNOW what haPPened with that one country next to Vietnam I believe..

Yet you still believe the Media?
HA!!



Oh and as fro calling me an Anti-American bracist bastard..
<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>WHEN THE FUX DID I SAY I'M ANTI AMERICA? HOW AM I RACIST? JUST BECAUSE I DON"T LIKE WHAT AMERICA DOES, DOESN'T MEAN $HIT!! It's NOT LIKE I'M SUPPORTING SUDDAM!! I WISH THE BASTARDS DIES MYSELF!</span>
So, quit with yer #### and act right without getting all Pissed, otherwise like I said, ill give you my fuucking address, it's haPPened before, twice, wouldn't bother me again!
If you want the proof it's real, yer gonna have to either take my word for it or find it yourself. I'm not about to go out of my way to argue with some fcuking racist bastard over the internet.

Yes, racist. You've made racist comments about Americans in the past, and by saying that just because I'm pro-war and american, i'm automatically a "rednect terrorist." So yes, yer a fcuking racist bastard.

As far as giving out your address, go ahead, I don't give a ####. I never said anything about hunting you down and finding you, and personally, even if you give me your address, I wouldn't do anything about it, because I'm not about to trek cross-country to pick a fight with a racist when I got plenty other fcuking hippy peaceniks in my own town to take care of first.

[asshole]

"Redneck Terrorist" yes.. that's a bad thing to say, but it's NOTHING racist..
I didn't say #### about your colors, did I?


So, honestly either before I end uP coming to your town or you over here, stoP with this nonsense..

And by calling me a bastard over and over, yer just pissing me off.. I don't care if I get banned again, but if you call me a name such as that again, oh man I wouldn't give a fuuck about anything, so.. either quit being a fuxing nerd behind the net or do something...

I mean yer ALWAYS saying 'If I see him in real life, I'd beat the #### outta him", well ill give you a fuucking oPPurtunity...

I'd like to state just a few breif things:

1. I am against the ideal that it is the US responsibility to free nations like Iraq, North Korea, and all other facist/communist/dictorial regiems throught the world. The US has no soverienty over those nations, and while these people are oppresed and deserve to be free, there is no reason for a single nations to make themselves world mediator. This is only detracting from the US v. Iraq true "objective" of disarmament, and is hypocritical of past US and current US actions if more is to be said on that subject.

2. I am against the US defying the UN by acting on its own and threatening/carrying out an invasion of Iraq. Yes, this is a major benefit (so far) for the people of the nation, there have been few casualties, and it is almost a certainty that Weapons of Mass Destruction will be found. However, Iraq signed a peace treaty with the UN that was broken countless times. And it is the UN that must act. When it does refuse to act in instances like this, then there is a major problem with the organization (possibly due to the Bush administration's forgein policies), and should be the thing that is mended so that it won't happen again.

3. I am against this philosophy of pre-emptive war. It is something that has been used before in wars, namely WWII, and has only seemed to lead to more destruction then anything else. It causes the invader (the US in this case) to be seen as an agressor nation. And by all means, the worst case scenario is that this manner of thought could lead to more pre-emptive strikes. The Cold War was in the exact epitome of what pre-emptively striking may have lead too...

4. I am in no way against Saddam and his facist regeim's overhthrough. He has without a doubt proven himself to be a mallicious tyrant of his nation for over 30 years. He has blatantly used his own weapons against his own people. He has supresed revolts (the largest I believe was by the Kurds some time ago) with chemical warefare, and is obviously only looking out for himself. However, as should have been gathered by the rest of this post, I believe it's the UN's place to attend to matters of world order.

5. More of a comment more then a real issue of the debate. Although I know that most of the reason behind Bush's proclaimations that the war is against the regeim, his/the military's constant insistance that they are not targeting civilians and constant urging of the Iraqi soldiers to surrender instantly in order to decrease casualties is centered around propaganda motives, I think it's probably one of the most moral things I've even heard of happening in a war. Though I've said before that it shouldn't be the US' place to police the world, I do think this is something that would greatly benefit the world if incredibly superior nations would try to minimize casualties against weaker nations in the same manner.

I am hoping the rest of the debaters in here can express their oppinions in less hostility in their future posts...

[asshole]

2000, for once I TOTALLY agree with you. It should've been the UN alltogether who should've done something about Suddam refusals, not US. PeoPle are Pissed because Suddam keePs kicking them out, but what they don't realise is that US is as bad... they're forcing their ways into some Place where they SHOULDN'T!


Oh and as for EVERYONE saying "Even the Iraqi PeoPle are tired of Suddam, so US should be thanked for that", well did you EVER notice how a LOT of PeoPle are against Bush. how ocme NOTHINGs done about that?

[SaddamHussein]

HAIL 2000Warrior

I agree!!

Also sum facts
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The U.S was Allies with Iraq for 20 years or so. 1970-1990
The U.S [b]GAVE[b] Iraq the strands to make certain biochemicals such as ANTRHRAX!!!!
I killed my own people, 5,000 in an hour with mustard gas =( in 1992 or 1995
My youngest son killed a group of muslims in 1992 or 1995
I forgot the exact dates but kill me!!
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he he he I kid I kid, dun kill me =\