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MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-28-2005, 10:55 AM
hahahahahaha! i have never thought i woul;d see the day. but, your guys it has come true.
at sum church in U.S.A i can't remember the city
it had over 2000+ member in it. 2 men with sub-machine-guns
said"who wants to get shot 4 jesus stay, who evr doesn't leave." and guess what outta 2000+ guess how many stayed(20) 1 percent stayed and when those other left out the building he said" u can resume service now" heard this at the radio station so sad u freakin hipocripts!

and it tells me another thing about christianity? evryone like to say the word "god", but don't no one wants to say the word "Jesus". that burns me up in side.
give me sum feed back

I meant to say hypocripts



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alamgir
06-28-2005, 11:29 AM
Lol, hypocrips.

Virtual Fighter
06-28-2005, 11:37 AM
Hippo Crips are fat gangsters from los angeles.

True motherfliping story motherfliper.

Y2J2005
06-28-2005, 11:42 AM
I know a sim. story to one like this but they actually shot ppl who said they belive in Jesus. I used to be a Crip, but i'm not anymore.:)

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-28-2005, 11:55 AM
Hippo Crips are fat gangsters from los angeles.

True motherfliping story motherfliper.
stfuu dumbass slut now, back on topic that's said u got that many nonbelievers in christianity

Elena
06-28-2005, 01:24 PM
See, that's why I don't go to church...you never know when crazy ppl with guns are going to come.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-28-2005, 02:13 PM
there's al lot of false claimers if yousee sumone praising the lord and talking about him ask him/or would he or she take a bullet for christ? if they say yes. wich mostly likely they mostly will bring a gun to theyre face and u can see the fear in there eyes. now in the bible, it says sum pretaining to this
" if your are tryingsave your self from being loss, then, your are already loss. but if your lose your self within me, u shall be found." o and btw Virch don't post here again, just don't!!! good 2 go

alamgir
06-28-2005, 02:19 PM
I'm not a christian but if someone told me if I was willing to die for my religion then I would say yes. However I wouldn't die just to prove it to some man with a gun.

Dark_Paladin_X
06-28-2005, 02:23 PM
ok...eventhough God loves all...why the F would go into his house....with guns....and threaten people...and all as a joke...

that's patheitc.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-28-2005, 02:46 PM
guess they wanted to see who love god and who don't guess only less than 10 percent on earth loves our god. i wonder why?

Angel-Eyes
06-28-2005, 03:56 PM
See, that's why I don't go to church...you never know when crazy ppl with guns are going to come.
thats why I watch tons of kung fumovies......to be prepared for psychos



btw I would have stayed, thats no lie

Dark_Paladin_X
06-28-2005, 03:58 PM
Apparently they love god to a point...where they can lose their lives...but think about it...god gave us life to experience it...

still....i would've stayed too.

~Mastermax~
06-28-2005, 05:23 PM
dude lay off the christians, it's ok to break any religious law if it was save a life. and also it would be the right thing to not take a bullet for jesus. for one thats suicide and that would send you downstairs, and two it's jesus, what would keep him from coming back again.

i'm not even a christian but yet i know that, in fact i'm jewish.

Bob~Marley4004
06-28-2005, 05:31 PM
You gotta have faith. If you're a real Christian, you know that God can turn things out for the good. If you know you got your life together and you're doing things for the Lord.. and you believe you haven't finish what God called you to do. Well, you shouldn't be afraid of situations like this.

But we shouldn't criticize our brethren or sister in Christ, we should pray for them. but it's all about having faith.

~Mastermax~
06-28-2005, 06:02 PM
well you can't rely on god to save you, i mean god won't help if you can do it yourself, and he also helps through others. i mean he never did anything for 6 million jews...

Angel-Eyes
06-28-2005, 06:13 PM
well you can't rely on god to save you, i mean god won't help if you can do it yourself, and he also helps through others. i mean he never did anything for 6 million jews...
thats because all jews dont have full faith in God....

their relegion has them do works plus faith.......

Elena
06-28-2005, 06:14 PM
well you can't rely on god to save you, i mean god won't help if you can do it yourself, and he also helps through others. i mean he never did anything for 6 million jews...
Which is exactly why I'm not that religious....



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MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-29-2005, 07:11 AM
well you can't rely on god to save you, i mean god won't help if you can do it yourself, and he also helps through others. i mean he never did anything for 6 million jews...
thats because all jews dont have full faith in God....

their relegion has them do works plus faith.......
NOT TO MAKE THIS A RELEGIOUS PAGE, BUT , JEWS THINK OF JESUS AS PROPHECY, NOT THE messiah that's why he doesn't rescue u all .if you don't believe me just look at the movie "passion of the christ" they treated him like a he was a animal that needed to be tamned. and that was just rong.

Virtual Fighter
06-29-2005, 08:32 AM
Hippo Crips are fat gangsters from los angeles.

True motherfliping story motherfliper.
stfuu dumbass slut now, back on topic that's said u got that many nonbelievers in christianity
ARE YOU flipING KIDDING ME?

You come here with all this religious "holyer than thou" attitude, act like if you were sent from fliping heaven, then you completley go against everything your religion has taught you and threw the first stone, and cussed me out?

I don't know if you know the defenition of the word hypocrite, that would be fliping it.


NOT TO MAKE THIS A RELEGIOUS PAGE, BUT , JEWS THINK OF JESUS AS PROPHECY, NOT THE messiah that's why he doesn't rescue u all .if you don't believe me just look at the movie "passion of the christ" they treated him like a he was a animal that needed to be tamned. and that was just rong.

Then, not only have you proven yourself to be totally hypocritical of the word of jesus, but you go on and quote some bullpoop movie as if it was sent down by the heavens themselves and not made by some retarded actor who wanted to feel good about himself by portraying anyone who wasn't like him as evil animals.

You, sir, are a zelot. You're nothing but a religiouse zelot and if someone were to say "Are you ready to get shot for god?" I would encourage you to take the bullet.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-29-2005, 08:44 AM
Hippo Crips are fat gangsters from los angeles.

True motherfliping story motherfliper.
stfuu dumbass slut now, back on topic that's said u got that many nonbelievers in christianity
ARE YOU flipING KIDDING ME?

You come here with all this religious "holyer than thou" attitude, act like if you were sent from fliping heaven, then you completley go against everything your religion has taught you and threw the first stone, and cussed me out?

I don't know if you know the defenition of the word hypocrite, that would be fliping it.


NOT TO MAKE THIS A RELEGIOUS PAGE, BUT , JEWS THINK OF JESUS AS PROPHECY, NOT THE messiah that's why he doesn't rescue u all .if you don't believe me just look at the movie "passion of the christ" they treated him like a he was a animal that needed to be tamned. and that was just rong.

Then, not only have you proven yourself to be totally hypocritical of the word of jesus, but you go on and quote some bullpoop movie as if it was sent down by the heavens themselves and not made by some retarded actor who wanted to feel good about himself by portraying anyone who wasn't like him as evil animals.

You, sir, are a zelot. You're nothing but a religiouse zelot and if someone were to say "Are you ready to get shot for god?" I would encourage you to take the bullet.
hmm. zelot. lol !! omg where's is he coming from? hell, i wuz just expressing my self

o yeah mr. virch i'm sorry for all the bad deeds we had against each other. let's start over or is my first impressions are up?



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Virtual Fighter
06-29-2005, 08:56 AM
Expressing yourself? I cracked a small joke and you got all high and mighty on me.

Oh, and for your little story, try this on for size:

If god has a "plan" for us, he knows what we're going to do and has our destiny written. So whatever we choose, it's not because we choose it, it's because god chose it for us. So really, do whatever you want, it's not you doing it, it's god's desitny for you.

And no, i'm in no way church going, but this ill-bred sense of logic seems most popular around justifying one's actions for whatever reason.

Yeah, the people who don't want to get shot in the head are hypocrites, but the priests who rape little boys aren't talked about.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-29-2005, 09:13 AM
Expressing yourself? I cracked a small joke and you got all high and mighty on me.

Oh, and for your little story, try this on for size:

If god has a "plan" for us, he knows what we're going to do and has our destiny written. So whatever we choose, it's not because we choose it, it's because god chose it for us. So really, do whatever you want, it's not you doing it, it's god's desitny for you.

And no, i'm in no way church going, but this ill-bred sense of logic seems most popular around justifying one's actions for whatever reason.

Yeah, the people who don't want to get shot in the head are hypocrites, but the priests who rape little boys aren't talked about.
yu choose your own destiny, but god wants yu 2 walk down a path like jesus the rightous path or yu can take the evil road(like satan) did a lotta people now and dat like to take the evil road and the exact reason why i always carry pepper spray with me at all times cuz it's so many demons out here.

alamgir
06-29-2005, 09:25 AM
Expressing yourself? I cracked a small joke and you got all high and mighty on me.

Oh, and for your little story, try this on for size:

If god has a "plan" for us, he knows what we're going to do and has our destiny written. So whatever we choose, it's not because we choose it, it's because god chose it for us. So really, do whatever you want, it's not you doing it, it's god's desitny for you.

And no, i'm in no way church going, but this ill-bred sense of logic seems most popular around justifying one's actions for whatever reason.

Yeah, the people who don't want to get shot in the head are hypocrites, but the priests who rape little boys aren't talked about.
In Isalm the belief that God controls future events is called Al Quadr. Although I believe in Al Qadr, I don't believe that you should intend to sit down and do nothing in your life for this purpose simply because I don't know what plan has been made for my life. I will come across decisions and make choices but I believe that even though these choices are already written down, I will be able to choose freely because I have no knowledge of what's written down.

Virtual Fighter
06-29-2005, 09:31 AM
But if you don't... umm.. let's say LET YOURSELF GET SHOT IN THE HEAD, you shouldn't feel bad because it was god's intentions, right?

Angel-Eyes
06-29-2005, 09:39 AM
noononono ok you're a little off base with this pre-destined stuff.

ok, God is omniscient (all knowing), so he knows everything....everything you will do.

now this is where it gets confusing:

we all have free will to do whatever we want.

and just because God already knows what were gonna do, doesnt mean that we dont have a free will to make our own destiny.


its not pre-destined, its just already known.



yes, I know it hurts my head too.

Virtual Fighter
06-29-2005, 10:11 AM
It hurts your head because it's a retarded concept.

SSJKarma
06-29-2005, 10:12 AM
you know guys... religion around here is considered "almost" illegal !

for those few reasons...

1 - always ended up in big bad flaming about how one shouldn't try and change the others !
2 - Always end up people flaing for being morons because they beleive in something.
3 - Always is bad in itself for debate !

anyway hope this doesn't end up bad... but i suggest you guys stay put... i for one won't talk much in here for my vision is a lot more prcise then wat i read up to now.... in any case gho on with it if ya must... but i warn you... this is pretty touchy a subject.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-29-2005, 10:19 AM
you know guys... religion around here is considered "almost" illegal !

for those few reasons...

1 - always ended up in big bad flaming about how one shouldn't try and change the others !
2 - Always end up people flaing for being morons because they beleive in something.
3 - Always is bad in itself for debate !

anyway hope this doesn't end up bad... but i suggest you guys stay put... i for one won't talk much in here for my vision is a lot more prcise then wat i read up to now.... in any case gho on with it if ya must... but i warn you... this is pretty touchy a subject.
yeah but i don't know exactly how this thing involved these debates i wuz just talking about that in the topic starter and it just raged from there!!! wish twe could end the fuel between all the relegions and could be friends, but sum people don't want that

Angel-Eyes
06-29-2005, 10:49 AM
It hurts your head because it's a retarded concept.
IWILL SENDGODTOCUTYOUR FACE OFF!!!!11

lol jk



but seriously I will

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-29-2005, 10:51 AM
It hurts your head because it's a retarded concept.
IWILL SENDGODTOCUTYOUR FACE OFF!!!!11

lol jk



but seriously I will
not happening any time sooon, btw god move in mysterious ways. and he shall handle it in his own way and his own time

alamgir
06-29-2005, 01:21 PM
But if you don't... umm.. let's say LET YOURSELF GET SHOT IN THE HEAD, you shouldn't feel bad because it was god's intentions, right?
Firstly I wouldn't feel cos i'd be dead right?

Secondly, I would try to evade the bullet, if I manage to succeed its because of god's will, if I die its because of god's will. Predestination is a difficult concept to understand, but I believe we don't know what's planned for us so we do have our own free will.

06-29-2005, 01:50 PM
Look just to let u know, many people dont know whether they'll go to heaven when they die and think doing good deeds will get u there. Well thats wrong. In the Bible, John 3:16-18 and Romans 10:9-10 says that if youwant to be saved, then u must repent of your sins, truly believe in Jesus with all your heart and accept Him as your personal Saviour. Ephesians 2:8-9 tells how good works wont do it for u.

Shingko
06-29-2005, 02:16 PM
why are you basing this off a radio station. do you think all christians are like that all because only one church did that? there are MILLIONS of christian churches around the world and you're basing off one incidence! plus it happened in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

you need some critical thinking.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-29-2005, 02:20 PM
why are you basing this off a radio station. do you think all christians are like that all because only one church did that? there are MILLIONS of christian churches around the world and you're basing off one incidence! plus it happened in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

you need some critical thinking.
exactly what i was sayin in my post

~Mastermax~
06-29-2005, 03:00 PM
shut the hell up you anti-semetic bastard!

for starters you not only qouted the passion of the christ which is a fictional movie made by an anti-semetic nazi who wanted the jews to look like demons just to reverse a century of relations between christians and jews.

and you said that we jews saw jesus as a prophacy, which is completely false.

in the time of roman oppresion in isreal, the jews were waiting for the messiah to come becuase they thought this was the time he would come. there were hundreds of crucifixitions everyday and jews were treated as dogs to the romans. many people were thought to be the saviour until they would be killed, which the messiah would not be killed. Jesus was just a man who was trying to cause changes in the jewish faith by creating a less orthadox sect. obviously this would not be appreciated so when the romans were getting people to crucify that day he was given up by the jews with no fight whatsoever, becuase if they did try to fight they would be destroyed by the romans army. so jesus was just another man who died on a cross with thousands of other heretics to the roman religion.


fifty years later jesus' followers decided that the messiah was supposed to die for the "sins" of their jewish brothers. thus christianity was born. when the roman empire fell the christians were able to sell their religion to the romans by warping the bible to make it look like the jews were the ones who killed jesus and it wasn't the romans fualt.


that last paragraph is what the last pope said when announcing that the jews weren't to blame for jesus' death.


if you want me to really make you feel bad i could go into what really happened during the crusades...

Virtual Fighter
06-29-2005, 03:32 PM
you know guys... religion around here is considered "almost" illegal !

for those few reasons...

1 - always ended up in big bad flaming about how one shouldn't try and change the others !
2 - Always end up people flaing for being morons because they beleive in something.
3 - Always is bad in itself for debate !

anyway hope this doesn't end up bad... but i suggest you guys stay put... i for one won't talk much in here for my vision is a lot more prcise then wat i read up to now.... in any case gho on with it if ya must... but i warn you... this is pretty touchy a subject.
yeah but i don't know exactly how this thing involved these debates i wuz just talking about that in the topic starter and it just raged from there!!! wish twe could end the fuel between all the relegions and could be friends, but sum people don't want that
Don't give us this bullpoop. Don't piss on our heads and call it rain.

If you were to even SOMEWHAT follow your own philosophy, you wouldn't have acted like a fool or been such a (to quote mastermax) an anti-semetic bastard.

I bring up the point again, it's not those people who were hypocrites, even though they probably are, it's you who follows a religion who preaches good will twords men, even though you obviously don't show good will twords basically anyone, especially those with a different religion than you.

~Mastermax~
06-29-2005, 03:37 PM
virchy for el presidente

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-29-2005, 03:40 PM
shut the hell up you anti-semetic bastard!

for starters you not only qouted the passion of the christ which is a fictional movie made by an anti-semetic nazi who wanted the jews to look like demons just to reverse a century of relations between christians and jews.

and you said that we jews saw jesus as a prophacy, which is completely false.

in the time of roman oppresion in isreal, the jews were waiting for the messiah to come becuase they thought this was the time he would come. there were hundreds of crucifixitions everyday and jews were treated as dogs to the romans. many people were thought to be the saviour until they would be killed, which the messiah would not be killed. Jesus was just a man who was trying to cause changes in the jewish faith by creating a less orthadox sect. obviously this would not be appreciated so when the romans were getting people to crucify that day he was given up by the jews with no fight whatsoever, becuase if they did try to fight they would be destroyed by the romans army. so jesus was just another man who died on a cross with thousands of other heretics to the roman religion.


fifty years later jesus' followers decided that the messiah was supposed to die for the "sins" of their jewish brothers. thus christianity was born. when the roman empire fell the christians were able to sell their religion to the romans by warping the bible to make it look like the jews were the ones who killed jesus and it wasn't the romans fualt.


that last paragraph is what the last pope said when announcing that the jews weren't to blame for jesus' death.


if you want me to really make you feel bad i could go into what really happened during the crusades...
man just go ahead that was interesting

Angel-Eyes
06-29-2005, 09:30 PM
so jesus was just another man who died on a cross with thousands of other heretics to the roman religion.


fifty years later jesus' followers decided that the messiah was supposed to die for the "sins" of their jewish brothers. thus christianity was born. when the roman empire fell the christians were able to sell their religion to the romans by warping the bible to make it look like the jews were the ones who killed jesus and it wasn't the romans fualt.


that last paragraph is what the last pope said when announcing that the jews weren't to blame for jesus' death.


if you want me to really make you feel bad i could go into what really happened during the crusades...
ok let me help:


jews were gettin killed left and right by the romans, they knew the messiah was going to come to re establish the throne from prophesy....so when Jesus came all the jews were like: "yeehaw, man were finally gonna get rid of these romans!"

woo hoo

ok then Jesus starts talking about how he needs to die to pay the penalty for the worlds sins to save them.

this doesnt set well with the jews, they were all excited about getting rid of the roman supression....so they're kinda upset with jesus for wasting their time.

then the pharesies n' such arrest him, the jewish population is more than happy to see this guy crucified for preaching to them for a year and then not overthrowing the romans. they wanted a revolution, and they didnt get it.

so they killed him.....
true, the jews were the ones that said "crucify him"
true, the roman sodiers were the ones who beat and killed him.

but in the end everone has to blame themselves for his death.



there was no "50 years later"
after he died, his apostles started witnessing and spreading the word that he rose from the dead and why he really died instead of becoming king.


as for the history of rome and christianity this is how it really went down:


im not gonna use accurate emperor names cause im too lazy to look them up.

k, the gospel gets to rome, christians there get persecuted and thrown to lions and stuff.

out of the blue one of the emperors "sees a vision", clames hes been "converted" to christianity, and banns the persecution of christians in the roman empire.


then another emperor comes along and makes it the main religion. (sorry, just goin of memory alone)

as for warping the Bible:
the romans did plenty of that....."the pope" is a fine example.

Virtual Fighter
06-29-2005, 11:12 PM
And ofcourse kester knows more about religion than 1000 yeras of roman catholecism.

Shingko
06-30-2005, 05:43 AM
i think the emperor was Saul right? but he was more of a important person then a emperor, and the apostles were persecuted cause they were preaching the word of jesus christ.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
06-30-2005, 06:37 AM
eh? thnx kester i wub u now!!!

Shingko
06-30-2005, 12:41 PM
thank goodness that we are having a "discussion" instead of people just bashing christians in the first or so pages

Virtual Fighter
06-30-2005, 01:52 PM
thank goodness that we are having a "discussion" instead of people just bashing christians in the first or so pages

As opposed to christians bashing athiests, christians bashing jews and christians bashing anyone who doesn't agree with them?

That, folks, is the defenition of hypocricy.

Oh, and:

I meant to say hypocripts

If you don't know how to spell, say, or use a word, don't be splurting it out as if it's your right to butcher the english languege.

~Mastermax~
06-30-2005, 03:00 PM
i think i missed an entire page of posts for some reason, but yet again i must say vf is right...

Elena
06-30-2005, 08:03 PM
thank goodness that we are having a "discussion" instead of people just bashing christians in the first or so pages

As opposed to christians bashing athiests, christians bashing jews and christians bashing anyone who doesn't agree with them?

That, folks, is the defenition of hypocricy.

Oh, and:

I meant to say hypocripts

If you don't know how to spell, say, or use a word, don't be splurting it out as if it's your right to butcher the english languege.
You are a hypocrite...here you are bashing the guy about spurting out misspelt words of the English language when you do it too Mr. Hypocrite because the last time I checked you spelt hypocrite, "hypocrit." And still do....not to mention you spelt hypocrisy wrong too...

Virtual Fighter
06-30-2005, 09:14 PM
[color=#000000]hyp

Angel-Eyes
06-30-2005, 09:39 PM
shhh

dominicankid098
06-30-2005, 10:49 PM
Lol, I thought VF would never post again. I kind of missed his posts. :p



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Virtual Fighter
06-30-2005, 11:20 PM
I just post whenever I find something so repulsive it begs me to post.

alamgir
07-01-2005, 12:07 AM
Lol VF you spelt hypocrisy wrong up there.

mastaq
07-01-2005, 06:17 AM
I just post whenever I find something so repulsive it begs me to post.
You and your dictionary vocabulary. You make me laugh. :D

EDIT: Don't bother replying to this VF. I won't be back to check this thread.



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gieandfer
07-01-2005, 08:17 AM
Hippo Crips are fat gangsters from los angeles.

True motherfliping story motherfliper.
and what exactly is wrong with los angeles?

Virtual Fighter
07-01-2005, 11:08 AM
Hippo Crips are fat gangsters from los angeles.

True motherfliping story motherfliper.
and what exactly is wrong with los angeles?
No, you see, it was a joke. He said "hypocrips", I said hippo crips. you know, hippo, the gang crips, fat gangsters.

You'll get it in the morning.



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Elena
07-01-2005, 04:42 PM
[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][color=#000000]hyp

gieandfer
07-01-2005, 06:04 PM
Hippo Crips are fat gangsters from los angeles.

True motherfliping story motherfliper.
and what exactly is wrong with los angeles?
No, you see, it was a joke. He said "hypocrips", I said hippo crips. you know, hippo, the gang crips, fat gangsters.

You'll get it in the morning.
i know what it means i just got a little carried away

Virtual Fighter
07-01-2005, 08:20 PM
[quote:post_uid0="Elena"][color=#000000][quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]hyp

SSJKarma
07-02-2005, 09:23 AM
wow, just my luck another religion topic who turned to flame.
why did i knew i would one day lock this thread ?

for the heck of it guys... don't flame people its bad for the health of the masses !

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
07-05-2005, 09:12 AM
that's just rong closing down a topickarma
and i want ppl in put on this now more ppl post sumthing
that's useful 4 me

~Mastermax~
07-05-2005, 09:39 AM
yes!

that n00b will finnally get banned...



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alamgir
07-05-2005, 10:56 AM
because I don't feel like discussing the spellings of a word

Well you sure did feel like it in mega's case, I guess spelling doesn't apply to you VF.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
07-05-2005, 11:38 AM
VF thinks he's sumone that he isn't!!!!

Angel-Eyes
07-05-2005, 12:37 PM
VF thinks he's sumone that he isn't!!!!
meh?

he wishes he was me

marvel911
07-05-2005, 01:57 PM
Wasnt this filth locked?

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL
07-05-2005, 02:15 PM
nah i want sum inspriration, so i need it now

and kester 0_0

~Mastermax~
07-05-2005, 02:37 PM
Wasnt this filth locked?
yes but dracos wants to ride the happy train to bannerville...

SSJKarma
07-05-2005, 02:42 PM
Draco, you maybe like people flaming but when flaming happens its our job to lock th etopic to avoid further flaming, so next time you wanna defy authority by saying something such as you did !

let me give you an advice, don't do it !

this topic is closed.,.. again and if you reopen it i warn you, you might get banned so this is basically your first warning ! i also tell you to take my word on it. don't reopen closed topics, its bad for your health !

topic closed, for flaming !