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DA_VIPA
04-25-2003, 11:17 AM
for the past few days in this forum there has been this sort of 'war' between rap lovers and rap haterz...im here to just tell the story of the best rapper of ALL time 2pac

Tupac Amaru Shakur, 16 June 1971, Brooklyn, New York City, New York, USA, d. 13 September 1996, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA. The controversy-laced gangsta rapper "2Pac" was the son of two Black Panther members, and his mother was actually pregnant with her son while being held in a New York prison. As a teenager Shakur studied at the Baltimore School Of Arts, before he moved to Marin City, California with his family and began hustling on the streets. His first appearance on the hip-hop scene came with a brief spell as part of Digital Underground, but it was with his 1991 debut 2Pacalypse Now that he announced himself as one of rap's newest talents, while gaining censure from various quarters for the album's explicit lyrical content. He gained his first crossover success in July 1993 with "I Get Around". The platinum-selling album which housed it, Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. ... offered a rare degree of insight, with glints of wisdom like "Last Wordz" - "United we stand, divided we fall, they can shoot one nigga, but they can't shoot us all". To further his views he ran the Underground Railroad network for troubled teenagers in his native Oakland, California.
In 1994, Shakur collaborated with his older brother Mopreme, Syke, Macadoshis and the Rated R on the short-lived Thug Life project, releasing the morbid and violent Volume 1. By this time his acting career was also burgeoning, following a memorable performance as Bishop in Ernest Dickerson's Juice. After appearing in director John Singleton's movie Poetic Justice, alongside Janet Jackson, he was dropped from the same director's Higher Learning. Shakur took things into his own hands when he was also removed from the set of Allen Hughes' Menace II Society when he attacked the director, for which he received a 15 day jail sentence in February 1994. He did however, make it on to the final cut of the basketball movie Above The Rim. Shakur's run-ins with the police had escalated in line with his profile as a prominent black artist.

He was arrested in 1992 when a fight he was involved in resulted in the accidental death of a six-year-old boy, although the charges were later dismissed. He was accused in October 1993 of involvement in the shooting of two plain clothes policemen (later dismissed), and one count of forceful sodomy of a female fan. He was already on bail for an outstanding battery charge for allegedly striking a woman who asked for his autograph, and had also been arrested in Los Angeles for carrying a concealed weapon and assaulting a driver. Further controversy followed when a tape of 2Pacalypse Now was found in the possession of a man arrested for murder. Shakur was found guilty of the sexual assault in November 1994, but the following day (30 November) was shot and robbed in the lobby of Quad Studios in New York's Times Square. Shakur later accused Biggie Smalls (the Notorious B.I.G.), Andre Harrell and Sean "Puffy" Combs of involvement in the shooting, directly leading to the east coast/west coast feud that would eventually result in the deaths of both the Notorious B.I.G. and Shakur himself.

Following the shooting incident, Shakur was sentenced to four and a half years in jail on February 7 1995. The epic Me Against The World was released while he was serving his sentence, but still debuted at number 1 in the US charts. Meanwhile, Marion "Suge' Knight, president of hip-hop's most successful label Death Row Records, had arranged parole for Shakur, who eventually served only eight months of his sentence. Newly signed to Death Row, Shakur released 1996"s sprawling double set All Eyez On Me, which entered the main Billboard US chart at number 1. The reviews were both supportive and outstandingly good, and the album sold over six million in its first year, and generated a hit single with the Dr. Dre duet "California Love'. During the same year, Shakur began concentrating on his acting career again, appearing in Bullet and Gridlock'd (opposite Tim Roth). Further drama came when he was gunned down in Las Vegas on 8 September after watching the Mike Tyson-Bruce Seldon fight at the MGM Grand, and died five days later. Various explanations were given, including the theory that the Notorious B.I.G. arranged the shooting after Shakur had bragged about sleeping with his wife, Faith Evans. The east coast/west coast rivalry continued after his death, leading to the Notorious B.I.G."s murder in similar circumstances six months later. In a further twist, Orlando Anderson, the chief suspect in Shakur's murder, was shot dead on 29 May 1998.

Since his death Shakur's recorded legacy has generated several posthumous releases and hit singles, amid ugly squabblings over his estate. R U Still Down? (Remember Me) (released on his mother's new Amaru label) collects unreleased material from 1992-1994. The Rose That Grew From Concrete is an excellent tribute album from many of rap's new wave, all of whom owe much to his talent and legacy.

http://www.tupacnet.org/pics/Gallery1/tupac.jpg


btw i found it really weird coz he died 1 day be4 my B-day..10 years after.. my actual birth.. but thats just a co-insedence
plz dun flame this topic or rap itself but i really would like to hear your opinionz on him

peace

marvel911
04-25-2003, 12:34 PM
Isnt he alive in some small country just fakin his death?

Ludacris
04-25-2003, 12:56 PM
Isnt he alive in some small country just fakin his death?
yeah, some people say that some people say he's actually dead.........but anyway...........if he comes back cool and if he's dead, RIP

DA_VIPA
04-25-2003, 05:44 PM
...hmmm is intesting..since he seems to of made more songs while he is dead than to what he did when he was alive??nah i was only exargerating there...

akuma_forever
04-25-2003, 05:52 PM
ahh, yes tupac. his music, so great. and accorfing to vh1 he is the 3rd greatest rapper of all time. we miss ya.
btw- i think he is still alive. what about you?

DA_VIPA
04-25-2003, 05:56 PM
personally i think he's dead..well becoz when u get a bullet between your eyes...it doesnt hurt..but u die...3rd best rapper...so who is 2nd and 1st ?

machine1
04-27-2003, 08:38 AM
tupac was definitly a rap legend... i never realy listened to his music that much.. but since last year i have really been listenin to his songs..... and his music was great..... its sad that when u get someone with his skillz..and he dies.. :( An tupac was a great actor... i havewatched his movies that he did make and they were all great movies!.... well i think now 50cent will finish where tupac started.

DA_VIPA
04-27-2003, 11:55 AM
nah..i doubt 50 cent can finish what tupac started coz 50 cent actually disses tupac in 1 of his songs..and tupac is 100 times much better then 50 cent

DA_VIPA
04-28-2003, 01:17 PM
hmm..does anyone have a clue bout the tupac vs biggi thing...like the story when they was arch rivals??if any1 could post that id really appreciate it

king_of_ken
04-28-2003, 01:22 PM
yo machine u almost mad me cry man i love his music he was the best rapeer along with biggy all i got to sy to them is R.I.P

coolplayer2K2
04-28-2003, 03:25 PM
yep tupac defently a rap legend but what i want to know is which one is it 2pac or tupac its pretty confusing

streetpower$$
04-29-2003, 12:46 PM
hmm..does anyone have a clue bout the tupac vs biggi thing...like the story when they was arch rivals??if any1 could post that id really appreciate it

da_bro if u wanne now it went like this

The Tupac and Biggie feud all started November,30th 1994 when Tupac went to the Quad Recording Studio in Manhattan to record with another rapper for his third solo Me Against The World in the Studio lobby Tupac was shot several times including 2 graze wounds to the head. Tupac was also robbed of $40,000 worth in jewelry. Tupac's lawyer's said the attack appeared to be a setup. On February 14th, 1995 Tupac is sentenced to up to four and a half years in prison. Tupac immediately begins serving time in New York Rikers Island. In a April 1995 issue of VIBE Magazine, Vibe interviews 2Pac from his jail cell. In the interview 2Pac implicates Biggie Smalls, Puffy Combs, Andre Harrell, his close friend strech and others in the recording studio ambush. Biggie, Puffy and Harrell tell VIBE they had no connection with the 2Pac studio ambush. Suge Knight (Death Row CEO) posts 1,4 million bond to release 2Pac.2pac then flies to LA and signs with Death Row. On November, 30th 1995 one year after 2Pac was shot his once close friend Randy "STRETCH" Walker is murdered execution-style in Queens. In a February 1996 Issue of VIBE 2Pac Says he's been sleeping with Biggie's wife Faith Evans. Faith says the story's are not true. On March 29th, 1996 at the Soul Train Music Awards Death Row and Bad Boy employees exchange words and a gun is pulled. In May 1996 Tupac and Snoop release "2 Of Americaz Most wanted" in the intro of the video Biggie and Puffy are punished for setting up Tupac. The video only ran for a few weeks then is replaced by the current video. On June 4th, 1996 Death Row releases "HIT 'EM UP" on the "How Do You Want it" single. "HIT 'EM UP" disses Biggie, Bad Boy, Mobb Deep and others and 2pac tells Biggie "I fliped your wife". On September 13, 1996 Tupac dies of gun wounds of a ambush in Las Vegas a year later Christopher Wallace aka The Notorious B.I.G dies of gun wounds.
kind of sad story man :(

streetpower$$
04-29-2003, 01:52 PM
yep tupac defently a rap legend but what i want to know is which one is it 2pac or tupac its pretty confusing
i think its 2pAc ???
i don't realy now

PSYCHO
04-30-2003, 12:59 PM
tupac is great indeed
i like the songs
hit 'em up and Untill the End of Time
yall heard he's comin back this year... (thats what i read)
and they also had evidence like
in 1 of his movies he was wearing shoes that were made in 1998.. didnt tupac died in 1996 ?
and alot more evidence
personally i think he is comin back this year
now ... listenin to 50 cent and waitin for his come back :)

Rocky Balboa
05-02-2003, 11:33 AM
Tupac/2pac was and still is my 2nd favorite rapper, always will be. His songs were great, his attitude was funny, and he was one of the few rappers that talked about life in the ghetto. IS he alive? Personally, i dont think so, although there is much evidence that could prove me wrong. So Pac, R.I.P!

Hyabusa
05-03-2003, 04:28 PM
I think I'm the only person that thinks Tupac wasnt the best rapper...and infact he sux

DA_VIPA
05-03-2003, 05:02 PM
omg!!.. :shocked: ...how da hell can u say a thing like that..its inhuman!!

PSYCHO
05-04-2003, 02:59 PM
I think I'm the only person that thinks Tupac wasnt the best rapper...and infact he sux
wtf... ?
then who is the best rapper ?

Hyabusa
05-05-2003, 02:40 PM
Well I dont know who is the best rapper but I know tupac is not it...

p.s. can anyone post all of the Rap beefs from the early 90's up thankz ;)

DA_VIPA
05-06-2003, 12:17 PM
well my friend we've already covered the 2pac vs biggi ..if u havent read above..anyone know what happened between jay-z and nas??

Hyabusa
05-07-2003, 04:36 PM
yea track 4 on Godson...here's the lyrics


"Last Real Nigga Alive"

[Intro]
Uh, uh, uh, uh

[Chorus 2X]
Lord have mercy, Jesus Christ
He's just nice, he just slice like a ginsu
Look at the life that I been through
I'm the last real nigga alive, that's official

[Nas]
Y'all don't know about my Biggie wars
Who you thought 'Kick In The Door' was for?
But that's my heart, y'all still trippin of this Jigga ####
Real niggas listen up and I'mma tell you how the whole thing start
Off top I brung Queens up from hard times
Rockin at the Fever, streets was all mine
It was my version of the blues, droppin our schools
The crack epidemic had rap representin new rules
So I, got in em shoes, tried em wore them
Wasn't a perfect fit, so I couldn't sport em
Young murderers ride, I knew all them
Jungle got shot, Will died, we was warring
I wrote it in my album
I was 18 when Lake seen the Island
And Lord held me down and
My surroundings started changing
I had a baby, I was making my rounds with AZ
Niggas started noticing my flow and was open when
The Golden Child closed em in with more style than them older men
Puff tried to start a label, Prince Rakeem had formed Wu-Tang
Snoop and Dre had a new thang
So Puff drove his new Range through Queensbridge Projects
He let me drive it, before Ready to Die hit
BIG and I hit blunts performing at the Arc
Next thing you knew, BIG blew and all the balling starts
He had Kim and his crew, I found Fox, only niggas in New York with number
one charts
BIG was ahead of his time, him and Raekwon my niggas
But dig it, they couldn't get along
That's when Ghostface said it on the Purple tape
Bad Boy biting Nas album cover way(?)
BIG told me Rae was stealing my slang
And Rae told me out in Shaolin BIG would do the same thing
But I borrowed from both them niggas
Jigga started to flow like us, but hit with 'Ain't No Niggas'
Had much Versace swagger
BIG admired the Brooklyn knight and it took him in as Iceberg the rapper
Today don't know nothing, about this bullpoop
There's more #### than wanting to be this King of New York ####

[Chorus 2x]

[Nas]
Rap became a version of Malcom and Martin
Rest In Peace Will, Queensbridge live on
There's some ghetto secrets I can't rhyme in this song
There's some missing pieces I had to leave out
I had lot trust for Steve Stoute
At some point till I got to know him
We old friends, but what's loyal?
Puff soaked Interscope offices
With champagne bottles on Steve, and Steve thought the drama is on me
Cause previously it would have been, against whoever
Friends forever
However, I learn, with some niggas it's all business
But I'm a street dude with morals
To diss niggas with Jigga too much, he used to say Jay wanted my spot
I laughed, stayed home, never hung a lot
A quiet man who used to be alone planning
Baby moms thought I was too quiet, couldn't stand it
She hit the streets, later on she hittin the sheets
With a rapper who wanted me on his songs, thinking he strong
I taught her how to watch for cars that might follow
Tauht her street #### that I know
Her weakness was shine yo
But that's her, I ain't mad baby, it made me stronger
Now I get my paper longer
Illmatic I was boss
It Was Written I flossed
One of the most creative LPs ever to hit stores
In the Firm I learned I am Nastradamus
QB's Finest, Oochie Wally, faced more problems
I gave it all up so I can chill at home with mama
She was getting old and sick so I stayed beside her
We had the best times, she asked would I make more songs
I told her not till I see her health get more strong
In the middle of that, Jay tried to sneak attack
Assasinate my character, degrade my hood
Cause in order for him to be the Don, Nas had to go
The Gam-B-I-N-O rules I understood
What you want, see, I already had
The Gift and The Curse? #### that ####, the first shall be last
I'm the man's man, a rapper's rapper
G-O-D S-O-N, they'll be none after
I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo [for dolo echoes]

[Outro]
Uh, Uh, Uh

[Chorus 2X]

ill_*strik*
05-08-2003, 04:38 AM
wow.. :shocked:

DA_VIPA
05-08-2003, 01:36 PM
ok...

Xicer
05-08-2003, 05:54 PM
Yp Dudes This Thread Just Got To Me...Really Bad....All That Beef For Da Crown...Still No One Has It...The Best Are Dead.....THe Only rappers to me that I even still consider good are 50,Jigga, And Nas..thats it....All Them Other Mofos are Fake...Well Give It To Mob Deep Too.

Xicer
05-08-2003, 05:59 PM
O yea Just Remeberd something my cuz he has this Biggie Cd....I dont remeber The Name of it but....On the cd was an interview with Biggie about the Death of Tupac...And on the Cd he said somethign about him and Tupac being freinds??...I will borrow it and tell you the whole dam* interveiw...

DA_VIPA
05-11-2003, 04:00 AM
hmm..i saw a pic of tupac and biggie 'as friends' no joke maybe i should go find it..