View Full Version : Usa free speech - Does it still exist?
SolidSnake76
09-28-2004, 05:02 PM
my US gov't teacher(big bush supporter) ask the class to bring in a political cartoon supporting bush and whatnot. i got a different idea for that:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/SolidSnake76/bushworldnotenough.jpg
i showed this pic to my mom and she said i would get in very big trouble for bringing it to school. now that makes me question the free speech in this country today. is it being taken away? i seen similar incidents that occured.
Edited By SolidSnake76 on 1096416801
Zpower
09-28-2004, 05:20 PM
I say turn it in... what could she do...nothing
SolidSnake76
09-28-2004, 05:24 PM
no, i wont get in trouble with her.
she says its the school or whoever is higher, like the state, i get in trouble with. remember the patriot act? is free speech in this country fading?
Angel-Eyes
09-28-2004, 05:33 PM
well if the assignment is to get a cartoon that is pro-bush......mabey you shouldnt turn that in.....(you werent too specific)
if the assignment is just to find any old political cartoon, then go for it (aslong as you dont break any of the school rules)
Virtual Fighter
09-28-2004, 06:19 PM
hell yeah; turn it in. start poop. start as much poop as possible.
but for god sakes, at least make it yourself. i dont thnik highly enough of you to beleive you thought of that image yourself.
blanka09
09-28-2004, 07:07 PM
VF... I don't think Solidsnake's teacher wanted them to make it.. but I think he/she wanted them to just bring one... Correct me if I'm wrong.
However, I did find the slogan very funny... the paradox brought out from the James Bond theme is simply uncanny.. I tip my hat to whoever thought of the idea.. Except remember that's some ppl's point of view.. and not for everyone.
My take is, if you know that your school or whoever is in charge would get mad for bringing in something like that, then you might want to change it. Cause, at this point in ur life, you're not trying to make a big politcal statement.. but get a good grade on ur school work...so just go with the flow. The issue of free speech can always rare its beautiful head later on.. when you know your grades.. or anything affecting ur life cannot be harmed.
Of course the issue of free speech has always been bent.. we're not as free as we think we are.. that's just the honest truth :biggrin:
Virtual Fighter
09-28-2004, 07:11 PM
no way. i'd rather die then let someones oppion be forced upon me.
so im gonna force solidsnake to bring it in.
do it, biatch!
Angel-Eyes
09-28-2004, 07:14 PM
he still hasnt answered my question on what the assignment was.....
Virtual Fighter
09-28-2004, 07:18 PM
[quote]my US gov't teacher(big bush supporter) ask the class to bring in a political cartoon supporting bush [/qoute]
what else do you need? -_-'
Angel-Eyes
09-28-2004, 07:26 PM
political cartoon supporting bush
what else do you need? -_-'
If he brought in that image, he would not be doing the assignment....
so I guess its a choice on if he wants an "A", or if he wants his opinion to be heard....
If I were in the same situation, I would complete the assignment correctly, and then tell the teacher (and mabey the class) that I do not necessarily support the views of the cartoon I brought in....
Virtual Fighter
09-28-2004, 07:52 PM
no way. Its a USA government class. we would expect the teacher to respect one's oppinion, no?
floaterz
09-28-2004, 08:22 PM
That aint supporting bsh do I guess u'd fail
limbei
09-29-2004, 01:47 AM
enjoy her reaction i say!
Abdoun_bacK
09-29-2004, 06:47 AM
no, i wont get in trouble with her.
she says its the school or whoever is higher, like the state, i get in trouble with. remember the patriot act? is free speech in this country fading?
na man... do what you believe is right.... go with your slef.. in my oint i do think there is freedom of speech..buT!!!...it is minipulated in many ways, for example, in the news do you think they will say EVERYTHING that happends in the war, no..and it is also bias sometimed...
SSJKarma
09-29-2004, 07:08 AM
Question is, has it been existing since the start ?
answer is no, the so called freedom of speech is just another excuses for people to think they got the right to say whatever they want. thing is, if people were free to say whatever came to their minds, many people would be hurt by it. take an example out of public places, would you be saying the goverent is poop and that communism was better then capitalism right in a public place ?
answer is no, other wise you would have problems with the public and the governement !
i always thought the freedom of speech was a reality, but a few years ago i realised how bullpoopting i was to myself. it's nothing more then an illusion created in a purpose to make us think we are free when we are truly not !
its the same deal as DEMOCRATY, people acknoledge it thinking its the way to the people, when in the true world it actually gives dictatorship a lead to be, bush for example started a war with no evidence when you guys were saying no, where's the democraty in that ?
our little taxes, we never asked for them, how come we got them ?
those are just little examples of my sayings.
so are we living in a free country ?
answer is no and probably will always be !
SolidSnake76
09-29-2004, 01:14 PM
uh, thx karma. answered my question.
kester and few others: its a request for his wall. not an assignment. he ASK. not TOLD the class. see the difference?
as for the pic, i showed it to him, he did looked distusgted but said "its just a joke". if he sent me to the principle's office, then me and him woul fight. he can show off a picture of kerry being compare to frankenstien but i cant show a picture of bush/bond off?
i gonna bring more tomorrow. :biggrin:
Angel-Eyes
09-29-2004, 01:19 PM
as long as he realizes that you dont agree with him on politics, I see no need to stir things up just to make him mad.
Bobby.J
09-29-2004, 01:40 PM
Don't mean to get off topic but can some one here make me a banner? I would like a Mickey Mouse one if you guy's can make me one. I would but I am a very busy man with school in all but, can some one make me a banner and send it to my PM. Thank's.
Shin_ryu
09-29-2004, 02:04 PM
i had to do a cartoon to but it wasent about bush
marvel911
09-29-2004, 02:36 PM
who cares. If that was my class I'd hand it in without hesitation. Then you may get into a little bit of trouble..but then tell em to shove it up their arse.
mastergrim8
09-30-2004, 12:19 PM
Dang bush he thinks he's king. Down with bush! hey how did u get them banners
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