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y_09
05-25-2005, 03:59 PM
yes i think its about time there's been a ''healthy'' topic in the generals section seeing there hasn't been one for quite a while or maybe i just haven't notcied it :biggrin:

anyway back to the matter at hand, yes football,some people call it a game, others would call it a passion, i myself see it as a hobby/passion.

a ''little'' background information on the game...

The contemporary history of football spans more than 100 years. It all began in 1863 in England, when rugby football and association football branched off on their different courses and the world's first football association was founded - The Football Association in England. Both forms of football stemmed from a common root and both have a long and intricately branched ancestral tree. Their early history reveals at least half a dozen different games, varying to different degrees and to which the historical development of football is related and has actually been traced back. Whether this can be justified in some instances is disputable. Nevertheless, the fact remains that playing a ball with the feet has been going on for thousands of years and there is absolutely no reason to believe that it is an aberration of the more "natural" form of playing a ball with the hands.
The very earliest form of the game for which there is scientific evidence was an exercise of precisely this skilful technique dating back to the 2nd and 3rd centuries B.C. in China. A military manual dating from the period of the Han Dynasty includes among the physical education exercises, the "Tsu'Chu". This consisted of kicking a leather ball filled with feathers and hair through an opening, measuring only 30 - 40 cm in width, into a small net fixed onto long bamboo canes - a feat which obviously demanded great skill and excellent technique. A variation of this exercise also existed, whereby the player was not permitted to aim at his target unimpeded, but had to use his feet, chest, back and shoulders whilst trying to withstand the attacks of his opponents. Use of the hands was not permitted. The ball artistry of today's top players is therefore not quite as new as some people may assume.
Another form of the game, also originating from the Far East, was the Japanese Kemari, which dates from about 500 to 600 years later and is still played today. This is a type of circular football game, far less spectacular, but, for that reason, a 'more dignified and ceremonious experience, requiring certain skills, but not competitive ' in the way the Chinese game was, nor is there the slightest sign of struggle for possession of the ball. The players had to pass the ball to each other, in a relatively small space, trying not to let it touch the ground.
Another form of the game, also originating from the Far East, was the Japanese Kemari, which dates from about 500 to 600 years later and is still played today. This is a type of circular football game, far less spectacular, but, for that reason, a 'more dignified and ceremonious experience, requiring certain skills, but not competitive ' in the way the Chinese game was, nor is there the slightest sign of struggle for possession of the ball. The players had to pass the ball to each other, in a relatively small space, trying not to let it touch the ground.....

( after a few more centuries :biggrin: )
On 26 October 1863, eleven London clubs and schools sent their representatives to the Freemason's Tavern. These representatives were intent on clarifying the muddle by establishing a set of fundamental rules, acceptable to all parties, to govern the matches played amongst them. This meeting marked the birth of The Football Association. The eternal dispute concerning shin-kicking, tripping and carrying the ball was discussed thoroughly at this and consecutive meetings until eventually on 8 December the die-hard exponents of the Rugby style took their final leave. They were in the minority anyway. They wanted no part in a game that forbade tripping, shin-kicking and carrying the ball. A stage had been reached where the ideals were no longer compatible. On 8 December 1863, football and rugby finally split. Their separation became totally irreconcilable six years hence when a provision was included in the football rules forbidding any handling of the ball (not only carrying it).

Only eight years after its foundation, The Football Association already had 50 member clubs. The first football competition in the world was started in the same year - the FA Cup, which preceded the League Championship by 17 years.
This international football community grew steadily, although it sometimes met with obstacles and setbacks. In 1912, 21 national associations were already affiliated to the F餩ration Internationale de Football Association (FIFA). By 1925, the number had increased to 36, in 1930 - the year of the first World Cup - it was 41, in 1938, 51 and in 1950, after the interval caused by the Second World War, the number had reached 73. At present, after the 2000 Ordinary FIFA Congress, FIFA has 204 members in every part of the world.

information obtained from Fifa History (http://www.fifa.com/fifa/history_E.html) you may go ahead and read the full article if you wish.

so i've shown you the slim history of the game, now for the rules, there are 17 rules of the game to follow, instead of me having to post an extra 17 paragraphs i think i'll link you the ''official'' page. The Rules (http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/FIFALawsOfTheGame/Postings/2002/05/12111.htm)

so i've covered the history of the game, the rules, popularity ? (you should by already know its an international sport), whats left ?
ahh yes referee's, the people in the game you either love or hate there's nothing more to add to that apart from that.

some people would call football a game i'd say its more than a game its a phenomena.

marvel911
05-25-2005, 05:39 PM
..otherwise called Soccer..

blanka09
05-26-2005, 04:46 AM
Lol... yeah, I'd regard it as a phenomenum myself. It's of course, THE number 1 game in the world :biggrin:

alamgir
05-26-2005, 09:08 AM
HAH liverpool won the champions league, I don't support em but what the heck, they are british aren't they? And marve| football is known as football more than soccer around the world, I think its only you americans who call it that. I can't belive it 3 nil down to AC and they won.

Angel-Eyes
05-26-2005, 03:13 PM
a gentlemen's game for sure

y_09
05-26-2005, 03:17 PM
that game will be remembered as much as the manchester united vs bayern munich game, if anything it'll be remembered more, but thats the thing about football the amount of drama, emotion it brings and creates, i mean i was watching the lunch time news today and it showed liverpool fans that had arrived back in the Uk and they were still in tears and disbelief as to what happened on the night.
The game is a emotional rollercoaster, it sure as hell gives you an adrenaline rush *cough*



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blanka09
05-26-2005, 03:22 PM
Err... it'll get ADRENALINE in the system, NOT Testosterone o_0

SBYRD5
05-26-2005, 03:31 PM
Err... it'll get ADRENALINE in the system, NOT Testosterone o_0
hahahahahah

ahahaha

:D

y_09
05-26-2005, 03:44 PM
Err... it'll get ADRENALINE in the system, NOT Testosterone o_0
actually you'll get the adrenaline rush before the testosterone, you'll get the adrenaline rush as lets your favourite team as just won a penalty, and as the ball is guided into the back of the net you'll get a small burst of testorsterone, causing you to burst with an outrage of emotion or something

blanka09
05-26-2005, 03:46 PM
Yeah!! ... when he said testoterone, I was like.. oh no he didn't o_0 ... Lol. That's a very important hormone for the wrong time :biggrin:

blanka09
05-26-2005, 03:47 PM
Err... it'll get ADRENALINE in the system, NOT Testosterone o_0
actually you'll get the adrenaline rush before the testosterone, you'll get the adrenaline rush as lets your favourite team as just won a penalty, and as the ball is guided into the back of the net you'll get a small burst of testorsterone, causing you to burst with an outrage of emotion or something
I somewhat knew you'd argue. Go back and read on what Testoterone is and what it actually does :biggrin:

And a "burst of testoterone" isn't something you'd want to discuss on a gaming forum.. Lol



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y_09
05-26-2005, 03:54 PM
Err... it'll get ADRENALINE in the system, NOT Testosterone o_0
actually you'll get the adrenaline rush before the testosterone, you'll get the adrenaline rush as lets your favourite team as just won a penalty, and as the ball is guided into the back of the net you'll get a small burst of testorsterone, causing you to burst with an outrage of emotion or something
I somewhat knew you'd argue. Go back and read on what Testoterone is and what it actually does :biggrin:

And a "burst of testoterone" isn't something you'd want to discuss on a gaming forum.. Lol
lol i know what your saying, but i saw this on this documentary on how certain groups of people act in different situations and one of these situations was a game of football and they guy that was doing the documentary was explaining why people react they why they do when someone scores that why i had said what has been said, maybe he was wrong, but i think he was correct

blanka09
05-26-2005, 06:02 PM
Aye.. it's okay, I think I know where you're coming from... and in that sense you might be correct. However, the major usage of testoterone is for another kind of "excitement" not the thrill you get when you're hyped up about something. That's what we call adrenaline.

And FYI, too much isn't good for ur body. That's why the brain only releases it at certain intervals :biggrin:

SBYRD5
06-01-2005, 08:15 AM
I've played.

Offensive tightend,halfback then fullback.

alamgir
06-01-2005, 10:11 AM
Half back? Are you talking about american football?



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mastergrim8
06-01-2005, 05:26 PM
well we are the only people that ever play "football" but since whre her anyway I've played quarterback but my best position is wide-receiver (believe me don't take that position it brings lots of leg injuries)

alamgir
06-02-2005, 11:33 AM
The football this topic's about is what you call "soccer".

blanka09
06-02-2005, 12:15 PM
I know... like as if stealing the word "football" isn't enough.

alamgir
06-02-2005, 12:19 PM
Yeah, how dare they?

Angel-Eyes
06-02-2005, 12:22 PM
Yeah, how dare they?
what a shame

alamgir
06-02-2005, 12:38 PM
What's a shame?

Angel-Eyes
06-02-2005, 02:10 PM
they confused american football with football......its a shame

rajuislam5
06-03-2005, 09:02 AM
football is the best game in the world, and the team i support is manchester united!!!!!!!!! MANU!!!!!!! malcolm glazer sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!

alamgir
06-03-2005, 09:12 AM
Couldn't agree with you more. They totally deserved the FA cup but oh well I guess you only win when the ball goes in the back of the net. We need some younger players.

y_09
06-03-2005, 10:39 AM
i'm looking forward to the world cup next year in germany i really want england to do well this time around it'll be a historic moment no doubt if they win it, but the Brazillians are the dominant force in the game in present time, they are most likely walk away with the cup at the end of the tournament

blanka09
06-03-2005, 11:22 AM
Bah... history would repeat itself and an European team is more likely to win the championship :biggrin:

Ever wondered why they've never brought the "WORLD" cup to Africa ??

alamgir
06-03-2005, 11:30 AM
African teams do play in the world cup don't they?

y_09
06-03-2005, 11:45 AM
yes they do, nigeria would be an example, and so would moroco, but according to FIFA the teams that will play in the final stage of the world cup would have to qualify, and most african teams don't qualify.
But there is the african world cup, similar like the Euro's but all African teams.
As to what blanka has said, the arguement against that would be there aren't enough stadiums in most african coutries thats why the tournament hasn't been held there as of yet, and another thing the country which wishes to host the tournament has to apply for the right ot host it, it isn't like the spin a globe and pick any country.
But football is extremely popular in Africa, but most African governments are corrupt, maybe if more money was invested into the country then into the politicans homes and cars it might happen some time in the future

blanka09
06-03-2005, 12:24 PM
I said "BRING" the world cup to Africa... let South Africa, or Nigerian... or Ghana or Egypt host it for once. Why does it get tossed around between South America and Europe everytime ??

France hosted the coup de monde in 1934 and again in 1998; and yet not ONE single country in the continent of Africa has hosted it :biggrin:

And you want to argue on that note ?? How many teams are the africans allowed to bring to the compeition ?? 5 or so... while Europe and South America get to send more teams. Europe had Czech, Germany, Spain and a host of others. And South America also had more. Where's the so called "fairness" in that. I'm sure FIFA had its reasons... but it's something I'll go into later on.

alamgir
06-03-2005, 01:04 PM
It was in Japan last time. Some continents probably get more teams, because their teams are better.

y_09
06-03-2005, 01:20 PM
And you want to argue on that note ?? How many teams are the africans allowed to bring to the compeition ?? 5 or so... while Europe and South America get to send more teams. Europe had Czech, Germany, Spain and a host of others. And South America also had more. Where's the so called "fairness" in that. I'm sure FIFA had its reasons... but it's something I'll go into later on.
like i said...
most African governments are corrupt, maybe if more money was invested into the country then into the politicans homes and cars it might happen some time in the future

if those african coutries were to invest more in their countries and tried to develop them, i'm sure the tournament will be held there, but then your going to say something like they are in debt anyway so where will they get money right ??
thats where most of the developed countries can help, if debts are cut back then those countries in africa will be able to invest more into the future, and another point to add to that is if the countries have the facilities, the country has to ask to host the tournament, so its not a one way procedure, it has to work both ways. I agree with you saying certain countries, have hosted it more than once, and others should be given a chance instead of the tournament being held in the same continent, but the last world cup was hosted by korea in 2002, so there is some improvement but not drastic, only time can for see the future

Angel-Eyes
06-03-2005, 04:38 PM
I said "BRING" the world cup to Africa... let South Africa, or Nigerian... or Ghana or Egypt host it for once. Why does it get tossed around between South America and Europe everytime ??
ghana's field is tiny....ive been there


but yeah its a good idea, I would assume that alot of the other countries would have to build a new stadium anyways