Social groups - What category do you most fit into?

[Saijin_Ryu]

Ok the point of this poll is to see what you "social circle" you lot mostly fall into, and to see if there can be a mix of different groups getting along and not being "labelled". Because where im from (England) you can get judged by people just looking at you for example: The clother you wear, the way you walk, music you listen to, where you go and even how you wear your hair!

Every1 knows what im talking about but i think people do not address that this has taken over some people's lives!

However im not sure if this is as much of an issue where you lot come from majority: the states. But in the South East England i think its very controlling to some teenagers,


Ok now ill describe each of the Poll Choices :

im using music also to describe the groups as we all use different names/labels

Skater/Punk:
This doesnt Necessarily mean you hang around skate parks exc, you could just listen to the music with your friends in you house. And the clothed usually are Baggy...everything
Music Category
:Rock, Punk, Grunge, nu-metal, light metal and more...

Goth:
Here i am referring mainly to people who walk around usually covered by black with black nail varnish and a white face, normally looking depressed, even though i know some of the happiest goths you will ever see!
Music Category
:Metal, Death Metal, Black Metal, oh and im not talking about copper and steel...

Kev/Townie:
Teenagers who usually wonder the street thinking there "hard" because they under age smoke, drink and do drugs - very sad. Most of them can be abusive and violent. most of the people round my area are "wiggers"
Music Category
:Hip-Hop, Lame Rap, R'N'B, Dance exc...

Gangsters:
Im not sure if there will be many in this game, but im talking about real gangsters, the ones who usually appear on Cops and so on wearing "bling" from head to toe. Dont Vote on this poll unless you know you are a gangster and carry weapons into the night... otherwise your a wigger: ^See Above^
Music Category
:Real Rap, Battles, Hip-Hop and more..i think.

Brand Boy:
Quite Self-explanitory. you dont follow a group, you may hang around in one but you feel somewhat of an outcast. Im mainly talking about people who wear Gap jeans and nike,adidas exc
you may not have a certain music category but listen to a vast variety of music

Independant Women/Man!:
you may have a group of friends but you each are different doing your own thing, although this is very rare among teens with high skool groupings and peer pressure and what not.
like a brand boy but you'll never hang around with other groups just your own "Independant friends" alot like a brand boy but some differences... no music category.

There you go Folkes a vague description of the "groups" some go much deeper then this, but thats all i could think of. If you have any suggestions to a certain group please post then to make it more clear to further Voting..

Oh and i musnt Forgot, I most likely fit into the Group "skater/punk" because many of my friends are like this and you know what i said about peer pressure.. :p
Although my music type is mainly metal, i have never wanted to look or act like a goth.

Please Vote, some-what important thread me thinks. :biggrin:

[SBYRD5]

Kev/Townie:
Teenagers who usually wonder the street thinking there "hard" because they under age smoke, drink and do drugs - very sad. Most of them can be abusive and violent. most of the people round my area are "wiggers"
Music Category
:Hip-Hop, Lame Rap, R'N'B, Dance exc...

Gangsters:
Im not sure if there will be many in this game, but im talking about real gangsters, the ones who usually appear on Cops and so on wearing "bling" from head to toe. Dont Vote on this poll unless you know you are a gangster and carry weapons into the night... otherwise your a wigger: ^See Above^
Music Category
:Real Rap, Battles, Hip-Hop and more..i think.

Brand Boy:
Quite Self-explanitory. you dont follow a group, you may hang around in one but you feel somewhat of an outcast. Im mainly talking about people who wear Gap jeans and nike,adidas exc
you may not have a certain music category but listen to a vast variety of music

Independant Women/Man!:
you may have a group of friends but you each are different doing your own thing, although this is very rare among teens with high skool groupings and peer pressure and what not.
like a brand boy but you'll never hang around with other groups just your own "Independant friends" alot like a brand boy but some differences... no music category.
I'm some where between these....

I carry a knife.....I've beaten a few kats into hidding.

I freestyle....but I'm not that good at it....

I mustly do poetry....

I wear a leather jacket often....and I have a stern evil face....when I'm angry....

I don't like hanging around fake people...

Or people that put down others....

Hmmm I was once afriad of bees...now I actually fear nothing....not guns because my father killed himself with one and I don't fear knifes because I've been in knife fights....

I also don't fear swords......because I was taught how to sword fight to a degree when I was younger....

I often like seating in high places....and staring at the sky....

Or in places untouchable to annoying people...

When I care about someone it's true....even if that person aint true to me....

I've smoked and fucked before....

I care about little kids and teaching them good values....

I like cartoons,I like BET, I like Jackass/Wild Boys...,...

I like Football...I like this game....WFT am I...

(I choose Independent...)



Edited By SBYRD5 on Oct. 30 2003 at 16:15

[Saijin_Ryu]

hmmm very interesting..
Could some1 please inform me of the american labels people have put on different social groups?? aint it soemthing like jocks?? :huh:

[SBYRD5]

Jocks are football players/Wrestlers.......



Edited By SBYRD5 on Oct. 30 2003 at 16:52

[marvel911]

I suppose I'am independant. Because I'm not a skater, punk, goth, "gangster", brand boy, or townie. Although somewhat I fit into independant, but I do usually hang around with friends..but we, at least I dont do any sort of drugs. Or we dont go around looking for trouble. And I dont care what others think, you may not like me, but I dont care. I do like a lot of things..but some dont really fit together..its like one thing is on one side of the scale, and somethin is on the other(like sports and reading). So, i guess thats it, as I've been told, theres nobody quite like me..So I dont fit into any of those groups.

[Saijin_Ryu]

OK i see how some people may fall into Independant,
But please dont everyone choose that category because you dont want to be "labelled" because we all know we are.
Spank you

[MasterX05]

Im a G from the block and play no games.

[MegaManX34]

im a brand boy/independent :buttrock:

[ssj2trunks52]

why is there no geek or nerd in there because as you can all tell thats what I am

[lordgrobyc']

Saijin Ryu: the same thing happens here in the states. People are put down, outcasted, and beat up for what they wear or act. I read through that list and i really didn't see a group for me. I hang around a group of friends (10-15) and we kinda all do the same things...thats how we became friends. I definitely dont hang out with people who put others down. When my group sees someone getting put down or even beat up we stick up for that person and invite him/her to hang with us. I guess you could say were popular (please dont take that as bragging) and known around the school.

Peer pressure doesnt affect me at all..i have my own mind and dont put up with anything..i guess you could kinda consider me independent..but kinda not...

[DA_VIPA]

im a whigger from essex aint no shame in it as long as u really are hard hehe but i only drink and the odd joint...or 2:D

[SuperSonicX]

Im a loner...a shy person you might say...dont like to talk much..some ppl cant understand it..but its me. Im a Independent cuz ppl are so mean..scared of the different..get hurt alot...it sucks..feelin alone inside all da time makes me wanna explode...gotta hide behind a fake smile..cant show my real self..it aint pretty, maybe i'll show it but..id kill someone!

And dats me..an Independent.

[silent-killer]

me im more like a gangster because my family is all gangster and i act like one but the onw that like computers :)

[pip99]

im a whigger from essex aint no shame in it as long as u really are hard hehe but i only drink and the odd joint...or 2:D
livin the dream hehe

[EvilDan]

:p :p :p

[SBYRD5]

Im a G from the block and play no games.
LOL you computer nerd...J/k

Nah, That song "Play No Games". I loved that joint.....

[pip99]

meh english people are patheic i can tell your kinda of personality in england people catorgorize people......thats just ignorant

i guess id be more to the kev side with a twist though i ant got the mentality most my friends have though.

[Dreadlocks]

I'm an all around kind of guy. being in a particular "group" doesn't suit me one bit. In my school, everybody has some connection with everybody else, so technetlly, we really don't have "groups" in our school, except for the jerks that want to be in one or have they own group.

[pip99]

I'm an all around kind of guy. being in a particular "group" doesn't suit me one bit. In my school, everybody has some connection with everybody else, so technetlly, we really don't have "groups" in our school, except for the jerks that want to be in one or have they own group.
yeah kinda like me....i speak to nearly every1. but every1 likes to go off in there lil groups.

[Dreadlocks]

I'm an all around kind of guy. being in a particular "group" doesn't suit me one bit. In my school, everybody has some connection with everybody else, so technetlly, we really don't have "groups" in our school, except for the jerks that want to be in one or have they own group.
yeah kinda like me....i speak to nearly every1. but every1 likes to go off in there lil groups.
don't you just hate that?

[pip99]

I'm an all around kind of guy. being in a particular "group" doesn't suit me one bit. In my school, everybody has some connection with everybody else, so technetlly, we really don't have "groups" in our school, except for the jerks that want to be in one or have they own group.
yeah kinda like me....i speak to nearly every1. but every1 likes to go off in there lil groups.
don't you just hate that?
Depends on the group.......

[notsilentkiller]

I guess im a computer junkie gangsta quiet nerd :shocked: or just independent because im a quiet person that can easily blow up.

[Saijin_Ryu]

^^blow up^^

lets hope not..that would leave a big gooey mess!!
and why are people so independant i find this hard to believe as most of the people i know follow a group?

oh and please more people post i like this thread...it makes me smile.... :)

[king_of_ken]

for u toher 2 ppl that r gangsta whats good, what popping in hood

[Saijin_Ryu]

Oh to answer you question..
The things popping in the hood are.. NotSilentKiller


blow up..he he..hood......errr Muffins!!

[king_of_ken]

... for get i read that

[Elena]

Well, I picked Independent. I don't like being in a group because they always end up turning on you.

I like all kinds of music. It changes as my feelings change

I'm sort of a loner.

I prefer to wear baggy jeans with a tight shirt(not skin tight but not loose).

I keep all anger inside and try not to burst out but i sometimes do causing ppl to cry. Ppl think of me as a quiet little girl. They just better not get me mad because soner or later it will just all come out.

I don't smile. Smiles are fake. I have a serious look on my face ppl often think i'm mad(often true) or depressed.

I like being around ppl but i don't like them coming too close i often step back when they step forward.

Ppl don't often notice me. But if you describe me to them they will know who you are talking about.

I'm smart and let ppl cheat off me because I really don't care. who knows when i will need to cheat off them.

School is beginning to get on my nerves.

[Panda_Man]

im a all around geek.....
(cracks into school server and changes spanish grade :p )

[montalvo]

none of the above....some people see me as a "gangsta" or whatever you may call it, but im just a pretty normal person who wears the top of the line designer clothing(like southpole and nike air force, timberlands, new era caps, etc) and who also uses street slang as a part of everyday life :biggrin:

[Dreadlocks]

Everyone moves to a different rythm, it's just that some people think there's is better than others.

I get along with everybody, I will decide that I like you before I know you, unlike most people who say the opposite. You can't judge how good or bad a person really is by looks and stereotypes.

[pip99]

don't like being in a group because they always end up turning on you


Always thats not true at all.

meh kinda make me feel sad for ya after all that stuff you posted ....meh i ant a smiley dude at all but not all smiles are fake....

you seem to have some serious problems with people. And its makin you streotype people. Or maybe its somethink else.

[kidmatrix]

I like being alone but it helps to have friends.
:D

[Saijin_Ryu]

Ok seriously all the people who are alone..
Go out and find some friends!!
go anywhere! maybe the nearest club which you like, where there could be people with the same likes and dislikes as you.

But seriously its all good to have friends online, but when you dont have real friends in normal life it kinda shows how depressing you life can be!!
So dont be depressed! eat a muffin occasionaly and make friends!!



Edited By Saijin_Ryu on Nov. 06 2003 at 16:42

[pip99]

Ok seriously all the people who are alone..
Go out and find some friends!!
go anywhere! maybe the nearest club which you like, where there could be people with the same likes and dislikes as you.

But seriously its all good to have friends online, but when you dont have real friends in normal life it kinda shows how depressing you life can be!!
So dont be depressed! eat a muffin occasionaly and make friends!!
haha harsh i doubt some of the people here can even get a friend..l was that harsh?..

[Elena]

don't like being in a group because they always end up turning on you


Always thats not true at all.

meh kinda make me feel sad for ya after all that stuff you posted ....meh i ant a smiley dude at all but not all smiles are fake....

you seem to have some serious problems with people. And its makin you streotype people. Or maybe its somethink else.
Something else like what?

[pip99]

don't like being in a group because they always end up turning on you


Always thats not true at all.

meh kinda make me feel sad for ya after all that stuff you posted ....meh i ant a smiley dude at all but not all smiles are fake....

you seem to have some serious problems with people. And its makin you streotype people. Or maybe its somethink else.
Something else like what?
Dunno id be makin assumption if i said anythink.

[Elena]

Fine don't say then. I hate when ppl do that, that being "I don't want to say it might make you mad". You shouldn't of said anything.

You know what just forget it.



Edited By Elena on Nov. 08 2003 at 18:44

[pip99]

Fine don't say then. I hate when ppl do that, that being "I don't want to say it might make you mad". You shouldn't of said anything.

You know what just forget it.
meh...ok.

[Dreadlocks]

man Elena, you're harsh, but you're still my favorite SF character LOL :D

[pip99]

man Elena, you're harsh, but you're still my favorite SF character LOL :D
hows she harsh?

[Elena]

man Elena, you're harsh, but you're still my favorite SF character LOL :D
hows she harsh?

Yes, explain...

And technically it is not me you see on the screen on an arcade...so I am not ur favorite character. I just have a picture ofur favorite character in my avatar.

[Dreadlocks]

man Elena, you're harsh, but you're still my favorite SF character LOL :D
hows she harsh?

Yes, explain...

And technically it is not me you see on the screen on an arcade...so I am not ur favorite character. I just have a picture ofur favorite character in my avatar.
Well I think I'm as aware of that as you are, thanks. -_-

[pip99]

man Elena, you're harsh, but you're still my favorite SF character LOL :D
hows she harsh?

Yes, explain...

And technically it is not me you see on the screen on an arcade...so I am not ur favorite character. I just have a picture ofur favorite character in my avatar.
Well I think I'm as aware of that as you are, thanks. -_-
Hows she harsh?

[Dreadlocks]

Look, all I meant was that she was very straightforward and scrict with the "You shouldn't of said anything." and the "just forget it" thing OK, I meant no harm.

[Elena]

don't like being in a group because they always end up turning on you


And its makin you streotype people.
Ok what is that suppose to mean...are you talking about the smile thing. Ok i'll give you that one...all smiles are not fake but if you ever see me smile it's most often fake. And don't feel sorry for me. I'm not sucidal...and i'll finsih school.
As for social problems i just don't really like ppl at my school they either cuss too much or too goody goody or too quiet.

And ryu I just noticed ur post...I hope you were not talking to me because I have friends...btw I don't really like muffins.
As for the clubs most of the clubs get shot up over here.



Edited By Elena on Nov. 11 2003 at 15:23

[pip99]

maybe all smiles you give are fake i HARDLY ever smile but when i do they ant fake.

[~virtualfighter~]

i tihnk it makes you steroitype people because once you are in a group, you begin thinking in mob-mentallity. you think, "yeah, rockers iz kwel!!" "lets get dem dam wankstaz" and you begin thinking in mob-mentality, such as white and black. because every group must have a reason to be a group, and many times the reason is to hate another group. kinda like a gang.

as for me, im an independant. i like rock music, rap, hip hop, jazz, bluegrass, rancheras, r and b, punk, emo, indy, all sorts of music. but i like indy the most becasue it intercoperates all these are forms. also, i think labaling your self is a waste of time becuase, again, it makes you think in mob mentality. a sort of street gang, if you will. And also most of the people who let them selve be labalized arnt worth my time as for me to get into a deep freindship with them.

indy :buttrock:

[Elena]

i tihnk it makes you steroitype people because once you are in a group, you begin thinking in mob-mentallity. you think, "yeah, rockers iz kwel!!" "lets get dem dam wankstaz" and you begin thinking in mob-mentality, such as white and black. because every group must have a reason to be a group, and many times the reason is to hate another group. kinda like a gang.

as for me, im an independant. i like rock music, rap, hip hop, jazz, bluegrass, rancheras, r and b, punk, emo, indy, all sorts of music. but i like indy the most becasue it intercoperates all these are forms. also, i think labaling your self is a waste of time becuase, again, it makes you think in mob mentality. a sort of street gang, if you will. And also most of the people who let them selve be labalized arnt worth my time as for me to get into a deep freindship with them.

indy :buttrock:
I clearly stated that I don't like being in groups. I also said I listen to different types of music, if you look at my sig it changes. And i know i'm not racist tell me where i put that? or something like i don't like whites. Where did you get that idea?or were hypothetically speaking?

[~virtualfighter~]

what are you talking about? i wasnttalking to you, i was generally expressing my opinion, not to you or any other person. ???

[Sunikusu]

:shocked: wow, you completly described me with the brand boy type person.. i totally vote for that..

[Lordcyris]

lets see if i had to choose a group i would have to say i have "Father"

Gansta ifuthink gansta is going to parties 10-20 deep and getting into fights, drinking gettin high, getting chase by moms for sleeping with their daughters while they were at work :laugh: , mall sercurity, cops (not really me but long story u would understand if i told u)... getting jumped and put in hospital a few times, grabbing the biggest knife in kitchen running outside at like 15 project ppl cuase they messing with ur sister...then yes im gansta or maybe just Ghetto

but when i hit 19 i became a dad and had to grow up and slow down.......i say "Father"
Fathers arent independant becuase they need they're family to live on with out my family i mean nothing...love and protect them forever....kill and Die for my kids

hah see what u write at 2am

[Ken-Po]

I don't smile. Smiles are fake. I have a serious look on my face ppl often think i'm mad(often true) or depressed.
^^^ one thing me and elena have in common, serious face and no fake smiles. I only smile when I find something funny or when I talk to a girl but even when I do smile at a girl its not a fake smile. But yea I cant stand someone walking up to you not even saying hi and their puting the fake smile up already. All around Im in none of those categories, guess you could call me a Kenpo Karate freak since thats all I've been doin for about 10 years and counting.

[silent-killer]

lets see if i had to choose a group i would have to say i have "Father"

Gansta ifuthink gansta is going to parties 10-20 deep and getting into fights, drinking gettin high, getting chase by moms for sleeping with their daughters while they were at work :laugh: , mall sercurity, cops (not really me but long story u would understand if i told u)... getting jumped and put in hospital a few times, grabbing the biggest knife in kitchen running outside at like 15 project ppl cuase they messing with ur sister...then yes im gansta or maybe just Ghetto

but when i hit 19 i became a dad and had to grow up and slow down.......i say "Father"
Fathers arent independant becuase they need they're family to live on with out my family i mean nothing...love and protect them forever....kill and Die for my kids

hah see what u write at 2am
i do the same thing but not as deep!!!!!!!lol

[~virtualfighter~]

no, i think a gansta is some one who actually IS IN A GANG. if you arnt in a gang, then i dont think that catagory would be 100% you. you would jus be a thug, or a ghetto mofo. The kids in my hood dont call them selves a gnagster, or a "cholo" untill they are formally intorduced to the local gang, or present in gnag activity. (drive bys, robberies, drug smuggaling)

[Elena]

what are you talking about? i wasnttalking to you, i was generally expressing my opinion, not to you or any other person. ???
Yeah you were. I said "y does it make me sterotype ppl" and you go "I think it makes you sterotype ppl because...."

[_dmx_]

i am cool as ass and a wanksta that can fight (thug) :angry:

[pip99]

i am cool as ass and a wanksta that can fight (thug) :angry:
meh......haha. just meh.

[blanka09]

Let's see.. it's kinda hard to place me.. I'm in a level were equality is out of my doctrine.. kinda hard to figure out eh.. I know.. :biggrin:

Anyway.. I mind my own business most of the time.. but I've got some cool friends.. and college.. meh.. has almost everything you'd ever want.. and the ones you don't even want to think about! :biggrin:

[kingofhearts]

I probably fall in between brand boy and independent man.. :p

[silent-killer]

im a brand boy/independent :buttrock:
i agree with u but i dont have a job?

[viper2K4]

Gangsta.... :D

[jakelynch21]

I'm the only one who voted Goth? Sheesh. -_-'

[milestails]

I guess I'm a brand boy...

[ZERO_BEAT65]

gangsta...cause im in a gang..... also cause ive been chased by cops for having a paintball gun shootin cars on mischief night..(be4 halloween).... i rap.... fo reals..i do..i got ma own cd....and i got the ice .. fo ya who dont know dats a bling ... btw i got the ice that would make you go blind for months.... dats the way i ball...... i know how 2 jump a fence....

been in fights.. i fight my own fight..i fight ppl if theyre in a fight... i run when theres 2 many of them.. and come back with ma crew....... but ive never done drugs.... cause i think thats juss stupid....

hang out wit skaters..... yeah.... i skateboard.... i hang out with goths... cause some of them are kool...kev/townie.... i know lots of ppl like this think theyre hard.. i hang out with everyone



Edited By ZERO_BEAT65 on Dec. 04 2003 at 22:00

[jakelynch21]

im in a gang(surprised you,no?),but im not all that. Gangsta are ppl/persons who think they all that,kill any half wit doof anytime. -_-" Im gothic/Goth more. -_-"

[pip99]

gangsta...cause im in a gang..... also cause ive been chased by cops for having a paintball gun shootin cars on mischief night..(be4 halloween).... i rap.... fo reals..i do..i got ma own cd....and i got the ice .. fo ya who dont know dats a bling ... btw i got the ice that would make you go blind for months.... dats the way i ball...... i know how 2 jump a fence....

been in fights.. i fight my own fight..i fight ppl if theyre in a fight... i run when theres 2 many of them.. and come back with ma crew....... but ive never done drugs.... cause i think thats juss stupid....

hang out wit skaters..... yeah.... i skateboard.... i hang out with goths... cause some of them are kool...kev/townie.... i know lots of ppl like this think theyre hard.. i hang out with everyone
You live in england?

[ZERO_BEAT65]

nope...i live in New Jersey.. and thats in united states...

[pip99]

oh...nvm. Just if you was in a skater gang in the Uk...youd just Knocked out by a group a kevs or some black geezers.

[soutH_s1deR]

im a g from tha dirtY soutH,

[Ludacris]

gettin in a gang is probably the stupidest thing to do....when I mean gang I mean crazy gang(like Crips, Bloods etc...) not "Spongebob Squarepants" gang(by that I mean friends gang)......... cuz once you're in, U never can come back to normal.........U'll always have someone who will eventually get to U and kill U..........or kick your :biggrin:

anyways, I've been in fights, inlots of fights, I've got knife scars(one on my arm, 4 on my face but like cuts not deep scars) I did drugs and alcohol but stopped........I played a lot of gurls before(I was like 13 lol) I stopped.......now I don't cheat on no one no more........ I still fight.........oh I'm a poet........I have great poems but written in french......... I'v got friends.........not all kinds........like I don'T have sk8ter friends(I dispise sk8ters, well the one in my hood), goths( never met one), I know some gangstas but I don,t hang out with them.........I have a bunch of friends that are cool playas.....they don't do no dumb poop or whatever....... so hum........I don't t really fit in any of those categories.......

Edit: I'D be more of an independant



Edited By Ludacris on Dec. 07 2003 at 00:30

[Saijin_Ryu]

oh...nvm. Just if you was in a skater gang in the Uk...youd just Knocked out by a group a kevs or some black geezers.
The Key is to be alley's with people in different group's
this doesnt mean being independant, im a skater although im friends with people who are in gangs and hurt .....people. you dont have to hand around wit dem in the street exc, cos that wouldnt work.
I dont mind older Townies or Townies the same age as me, i just dislike younger townies thinking there all tough just because there cousins with some person respected in a gang, and if i even tried to knock 1 of them out, i would be jumped by there cousin, see what i mean?

[Ludacris]

I'm the only one who voted Goth? Sheesh. -_-'
you're a goth? cool...........I know 1 gurl who is a goth....she's pretty cool.......... and pretty :biggrin:

edit: plz, I doubt that on the 11th people that voted gangster, one turns out to really be one...... :D



Edited By Ludacris on Dec. 14 2003 at 00:31

[MrPegasus88]

Me too Am Indepentant Cuz am mostly a regular human who just goes out and hang with friends so Just Being an Indepantant suits my needs.

[Zpower]

I think everyone knows that being independent is by far the best choice. I mean come on being independent is the best of any social group you're able to "hang" or chill with anyone. I treat everyone equally no matter what group they are in. Sometimes its harder then others because people in some social groups may not like to talk or be sociable at all. In either case I'll still lend a hand when needed. I only try to have very few friends. Because its really hard to get to know EVERYONE.

[MrPegasus88]

Am with you on that zpower.

[busterrhymesinthehouse]

your right people do get put down alot and they dont deserve it :angryfire:

[jakelynch21]

Ahh,alot of people hate goths. I dont get why. They are so........so private,have tons of secrets about their life only they can reveal if they like...like me for instance! :D But seriously,what do people have against goths? :(

[iori]

I'm really hard to fit in to one catigory.......i'm best of all the soical circles.... :p

[Elena]

Well define goth in ur terms...do you mean a satan worshipper or do you mean a person wearing black all the time and is always depressed.

[jakelynch21]

some goths love Satan,some goths are mostly depressed and wearing black,so yeah. Summing it up,both kinds of goths. Satan worshipping goths have a right to worship who that want to,even if they go to a heaven or hell(if there even is one!),and black wearing depressed goths....they just pick on them for no freckin reason. Dont get why,everyone has a way of living,and thats a goths way of living.

[Elena]

Well, most ppl just pick on goths because they are different or just because they want to build up there self-esteem.
But i'm not too crazy about the satan worshippers...I mean what if there is a God...

[jakelynch21]

if there was a god,all my life has been wasted........ ??? im a black wearing goth...mehh....ive seen 1 of my goth friends get beat because he said hi to someone.

[ledmonkey]

:shocked: Doesn't sound like a fun way to live..

[pip99]

if there was a god,all my life has been wasted........ ??? im a black wearing goth...mehh....ive seen 1 of my goth friends get beat because he said hi to someone.
meh harsh.

[jakelynch21]

I just dont get it,just cause a freaking teen says hi to a normal person,they get beat down by 6 different ppl.It is a hard life,but we dont feel like it is,we being the way we are. =\ No one will ever understand goths....... :(

[Elena]

I just dont get it,just cause a freaking teen says hi to a normal person,they get beat down by 6 different ppl.It is a hard life,but we dont feel like it is,we being the way we are. =\ No one will ever understand goths....... :(
Maybe they were angry, but that gives them no right to beat down someone. That is racist. I think all you goths should pull together and jump them...jk...2 wrongs don't make a right.

Anyways, some ppl act the way they do because they are scared of what is different. They just don't understand...

[Zpower]

Jakelynch by the way do you know Iwillpress the creator of that character in your signature? Anyways to comment on this goth subject. Yes those kids who wear all black are symbolizing that they worship satan. Which is not really the history of the gothic culture by far. The Gothis were conquerors in the middle ages fighting with great skill in combat and almost declaring defeat upon the Roman Empire. They were famous for their brilliance in warfare with such soldiers called Huskars. Who were very fast at combat. To put subject to subject here. Yes there is an almighty being which controls the universe. It has been proven thoughout the decades.
Im a rational person and belives in science and studies science. Even scientist have concluded that there is an "all might being" which controlls the balance of all living things and non living this. The word God as humans try to put him in human examination. Although the true god is nothing like humans at all. Actually if you look at it without humanizing God then you would see it clearer. Yes as the Bible states Jesus is also REAL. Its been proven many times. I will explain now...
Ok think of it this way. There is a God thats been in what I will call "State1". State1 is the state of all living life before life actually existed or giving to by God. Ok when there was nothing but State1 and God and what I will call "Crew" meaning his "angels ect..." All other life meaning from the smallest matter of atoms and all these compounds, solutions, elements, atoms which make wind, water, fire, ice, cold, hot, warm, rock, stone, crust, gravel, sand, mud, dust ect...None of these things existed in "State1". Only God and his crew. Which roamed throughout the Galaxy which wasnt even a Galaxy in "State1" but rather a void blank place. Ok now you're wondering only because your mind tracks events in numerical order. What was before God and Crew. This is were you must stop thinking in numerical humazing terms. Ok in State1 there was no time no space in between. No numerical equation could put together the aspects of "State1". Because State1 was just God and his crew. See God which is the begging of all things and the end. You have to see that EVERYTHING stops once you reach God. God is the stopper of time the inventure of time itself. The source of the absolute power in the universe and all time itself. Think of it this way say YOU as being yourself. Say that no one created you, you have no history but what history you wish to make of yourself. You control time itself in your hands the ability of power to map and hold everything in a blink of an eye. You wonder with cause for all your creations. You werent created by any force. You just are. You're like a program with no code but just was there in void and soon created a infinite number of creations. Who are you then? You are God the absolute source of power. There was nothing before God. Because God is nothing God has no time or age. God is self explained history is his of his chosing.
Ok now you're saying how can something that has a begginning have no end or history before its begining. Ok now things start to get complexed. You see if you studied math then I could put this in an equation, but Im guessing many here dont study advance math. So I wont waste my time on equations. Think of it this way then say you create a timeline. On this timeline you number it 0-1. Ok you're saying hmm what kind of timeline is 0-1 its only 0 and 1 itself. BUT if you're God this would make sense. Because God dosent think as humans do. You see God is the 0 there are no negative numbers on this timeline because it all ends at God. Guess who the 1 is? YOU the one is you and everything eles in the universe. You see its that simple folks. Thats how God sees everything in the world as simple and non complex. So when someone says there isnt a God or higher power in the Universe. First off how can they be certain because mankind hasnt even searched .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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[jakelynch21]

Jakelynch by the way do you know Iwillpress the creator of that character in your signature? Anyways to comment on this goth subject. Yes those kids who wear all black are symbolizing that they worship satan. Which is not really the history of the gothic culture by far. The Gothis were conquerors in the middle ages fighting with great skill in combat and almost declaring defeat upon the Roman Empire. They were famous for their brilliance in warfare with such soldiers called Huskars. Who were very fast at combat. To put subject to subject here. Yes there is an almighty being which controls the universe. It has been proven thoughout the decades.
Im a rational person and belives in science and studies science. Even scientist have concluded that there is an "all might being" which controlls the balance of all living things and non living this. The word God as humans try to put him in human examination. Although the true god is nothing like humans at all. Actually if you look at it without humanizing God then you would see it clearer. Yes as the Bible states Jesus is also REAL. Its been proven many times. I will explain now...
Ok think of it this way. There is a God thats been in what I will call "State1". State1 is the state of all living life before life actually existed or giving to by God. Ok when there was nothing but State1 and God and what I will call "Crew" meaning his "angels ect..." All other life meaning from the smallest matter of atoms and all these compounds, solutions, elements, atoms which make wind, water, fire, ice, cold, hot, warm, rock, stone, crust, gravel, sand, mud, dust ect...None of these things existed in "State1". Only God and his crew. Which roamed throughout the Galaxy which wasnt even a Galaxy in "State1" but rather a void blank place. Ok now you're wondering only because your mind tracks events in numerical order. What was before God and Crew. This is were you must stop thinking in numerical humazing terms. Ok in State1 there was no time no space in between. No numerical equation could put together the aspects of "State1". Because State1 was just God and his crew. See God which is the begging of all things and the end. You have to see that EVERYTHING stops once you reach God. God is the stopper of time the inventure of time itself. The source of the absolute power in the universe and all time itself. Think of it this way say YOU as being yourself. Say that no one created you, you have no history but what history you wish to make of yourself. You control time itself in your hands the ability of power to map and hold everything in a blink of an eye. You wonder with cause for all your creations. You werent created by any force. You just are. You're like a program with no code but just was there in void and soon created a infinite number of creations. Who are you then? You are God the absolute source of power. There was nothing before God. Because God is nothing God has no time or age. God is self explained history is his of his chosing.
Ok now you're saying how can something that has a begginning have no end or history before its begining. Ok now things start to get complexed. You see if you studied math then I could put this in an equation, but Im guessing many here dont study advance math. So I wont waste my time on equations. Think of it this way then say you create a timeline. On this timeline you number it 0-1. Ok you're saying hmm what kind of timeline is 0-1 its only 0 and 1 itself. BUT if you're God this would make sense. Because God dosent think as humans do. You see God is the 0 there are no negative numbers on this timeline because it all ends at God. Guess who the 1 is? YOU the one is you and everything eles in the universe. You see its that simple folks. Thats how God sees everything in the world as simple and non complex. So when someone says there isnt a God or higher power in the Universe. First off how can they be certain because mankind hasnt even searched .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000001 percent of the univesere yet. I could go on and on but you get the picture. If they argue any further just tell them the 0-1 theory which is my theory. I will soon be making a book called "0-1" hopefully thats one of my furture plans :).
good god,you typed alot. Yes,i know that. My girlfriend got permission and uploaded it at photo bucket,and we tell ppl about it..lol. Anyway.....blah,we offer people out coat,they push us off and say get lost,freak..........damn them...-_-" But thats their opinion.....=\

[Saijin_Ryu]

What have you lot turned this thread into?
something along the lines of science or something. According to the first 5 lines of Zpower's post....jeez stay on subject.

[shorty-player]

im independent :D

[pip99]

The Gothis were conquerors in the middle ages fighting with great skill in combat and almost declaring defeat upon the Roman Empire


Now there depressed drug abusers that try to be different.
Wow thats some sweet streotyping there.meh