Sentenced to death - Do you think its fair?

[KenDaShoto]

Scott Peterson was sentenced to death today so post any comments about it if yougot some

[Abdoun_bacK]

well like..sentencing to death is a big deal..iam for and against it but i think sentence for life is worse, your isolated from society for LIFE. It also depends on what the person did...if it was something dramatic i think i would take that persons life.

[mastergrim8]

who's him

[Virtual Fighter]

no i dont think it's fair.

you shouldnt kill a person to teach them not to kill. it's hypocritical.

life in jail is hard, probably harder than the 2 seconds of pain he'll have to endure at death.

plus, sentencing someone to death costs ALOT more money than sending them to death. plus, he's gonna appeal, waisint the court's time.

[blanka09]

I really don't know... sure it's not logically right to kill a person to teach him/her not to kill. but if you look at the intent behind those in the jury, it's all about revenge 70% of the time. They're looking at the Laci's family and are like... oh dear, what these ppl would have to endure. It may not be right... and surely revenge is never good, but looking at it from their own point of view would at least justify... to an extent, why they gave him the death penalty.

It's sad though... I mean, if he's really guilty of killing his wife AND unborn child, to free himself from the responsiblities of parenthood... to be with another girl, then I believe he's a heartless human being. Only God can actually tolerate someone like that. By the way, when I mean God, think King David. The dude that committed adultery and murder :biggrin:

[Virtual Fighter]

jesus wouldn't sentence him to death...

[Angel-Eyes]

jesus wouldn't sentence him to death...
you are mistaken my friend....Jesus will eventually kill everyone who is not a true christian.

now, I dont know if peterson is a christian or not......so I cant say.




as for the sentencing that the jury gave......I have no idea...I guess thats why they have a jury to decide.

[Shingko]

why don't officers use that lie detecting machine then having months and months of people talking.

[Virtual Fighter]

you are mistaken my friend....Jesus will eventually kill everyone who is not a true christian.

now, I dont know if peterson is a christian or not......so I cant say.




as for the sentencing that the jury gave......I have no idea...I guess thats why they have a jury to decide.

no, you are mistaken. Quit smearing the name of my lord, and making him seem as if he is a religiouse terrorist.

[`Crystal]

lol religious terroist

ANywayz..i think its fair..u kill some1, u should be punish for that

[marvel911]

Haha, sucks to be Scotty. Oh well, thats what you get when you murder your wife and unborn son.

[KenDaShoto]

yea but who is anybody to tell someone when their life ends even if they killed someone thats the respsibility of god and god alone besides life in prison would have been alot worse considering hes young and everything it would have hit him hard

[Elena]

No, if he truly did kill Laci and his unborn child...he should have life. Life of cleaning up after others and being someone's bit*h because after all he is a pretty boy.

Enough with the religious bullpoop already....as far as an opinion goes all you'd need to say is "I'm against it because it's against my religion," you don't need to go all out with the "What would jesus do" and the entire anti-nonchristian attitudes here.

Anywho, I say they should make the bunghole suffer. Don't allow him the pleasure of a quick death, stick him in a dark dank hole for the rest of his days.

[DA_VIPA]

there are so many sick minded people in the world nowadays. so much so that some of them just need to be executed. to execute one shows to the rest what would happen to them if they are caught in w.e they do.
did anyone protest against ted bundy's sentence? infact i heard there was a big party afterward the execution.
if a person murders another for the shire fun of it then they deserve to be killed no question.
if a person murders another for money that should be a life sentence.
if a person murders somebody that has brought suffering to them and their families the penalty should be much lighter than the other 2.

[blossom]

what he did was wrong but im against the death penalty.

[Virtual Fighter]

An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

It's not kill him or let him go, it's kill him or let him die in prison.

he's fliped eigther way, lets go for the one that will cost the state/country LESS money and not take the time of the people.

[_dmx_]

They should make him feel the pain slowly until he dies,Och..

[KidKrazyShit]

jesus wouldn't sentence him to death...
He does not exist, so who cares.

As for my two cents, anyone around here who knows me well knows I'm all for capital punishment. You kill someone, you die. Any MAJOR crime I think the criminal should get death. Major crime, as in rape and murder. Which is why I'm some what of a fan of Texas. It seems they're the only state who's really in favor of capital punishment.

We need to raise the punishment for lesser crimes. Too many ppl are getting off easy for serious crimes. Like those people who leave their children in an alley or dumpsters. Those people should definitely "get the chair" That's just wrong....but I digress.

Murder is obviously just plan wrong. If it were up to me, you murder someone, you get murdered. I don't know about other countries, but America has become weak over the years. Too "nice".

dmx: no, that just makes us look like savages. A quick death by injection will do just nicely. Just as long as they aren't breathing anymore.

To all those who think putting them in jail for a long time and/or life is a just punishment I hope you realize that we, the tax payers, are paying to keep them in there. As in, feeding them. The less ppl in there the better.

[(~thug~)]

They should make him feel the pain slowly until he dies,Och..
sure.. no one has that right of power to tell people wether they live or die but god. so i disagree

[Virtual Fighter]

To all those who think putting them in jail for a long time and/or life is a just punishment I hope you realize that we, the tax payers, are paying to keep them in there. As in, feeding them. The less ppl in there the better.

A Duke University study found... "The death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life." ( The costs of processing murder cases in North Carolina / Philip J. Cook, Donna B. Slawson ; with the assistance of Lori A. Gries. [Durham, NC] : Terry Sanford Institute of Public Policy, Duke University, 1993.)

"The death penalty costs California $90 million annually beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system - $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level." (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988).

"A 1991 study of the Texas criminal justice system estimated the cost of appealing capital murder at $2,316,655. In contrast, the cost of housing a prisoner in a Texas maximum security prison single cell for 40 years is estimated at $750,000." (Punishment and the Death Penalty, edited by Robert M. Baird and Stuart E. Rosenbaum 1995 p.109 )

"Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty from 1973 to 1988 to achieve 18 executions - that is an average of $3.2 million per execution."
(Miami Herald, July 10, 1988).

"Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million. If incarceration is estimated to cost $17000/year, a comparable statistic for life in prison of 40 years would be $680,000."
(The Geography of Execution... The Capital Punishment Quagmire in America, Keith Harries and Derral Cheatwood 1997 p.6)

Figures from the General Accounting Office are close to these results. Total annual costs for all U.S. Prisons, State and Federal, was $17.7 billion in 1994 along with a total prison population of 1.1 million inmates. That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year.
(GOA report and testimony FY-97 GGD-97-15 )

From this; the cost of keeping a 25-year-old inmate for 50 years at present amounts to $805,000. Assuming 75 years as an average life span, the $805,000 figure would be the cost of life in prison. So roughly it's costing us $2 million more to execute someone than it would cost to keep them in jail for life. "

It costs LESS to send someone to jail for life.

plus, he will appeal, then they will say no, the he will apeal, they will say no, ect.

On CNN they actually said he is more likley to DIE IN DEATH ROwbefore he is actually put to death.

you ("the tax payer") will be paying for his exsecution, for him to die in jail.

that's the same as putting him to life in prison but NOT having you spend the money on warming up the chair.

capital punishment is a terrible, terrible idea that costs WAY to much to be put through.

yes, what he did was wrong (he might have not even done it, those jurors are retards, anyway) but he doesnt deserve to COSTS THE STATE MILLIONS OF DOLLERS FOR HIS DEATH.

life in jail is the only way. it's the ONLY WAY.



Edited By Virtual Fighter on 1103057856

[_dmx_]

Yeah other inmates will do the job or sickness.

[KenDaShoto]

jesus wouldn't sentence him to death...
He does not exist, so who cares.
ill hold my tongue

[Elena]

jesus wouldn't sentence him to death...
He does not exist, so who cares.
Let's not make this a religion topic now....

We need to raise the punishment for lesser crimes. Too many ppl are getting off easy for serious crimes. Like those people who leave their children in an alley or dumpsters. Those people should definitely "get the chair" That's just wrong....but I digress.
Yes, some ppl are getting off for lesser crimes...personally I believe it's a race thing. Because when a black guy is selling drugs he WILL get sent to jail but if a white guy should say abuse a girl he might not even go to jail...
All ppl who leave their children in an alley or dumpster should not get the chair...It might of just been a spur of the moment thing and they had no idea what to do or maybe their family would kill her if they found out. Others might really be sick in the head and might not be able to be comprehend. Therefore it's not thier fault.

Murder is obviously just plan wrong. If it were up to me, you murder someone, you get murdered. I don't know about other countries, but America has become weak over the years. Too "nice".
KKS you are being to broad what if the person didn't mean to kill the person...or maybe they were under the influence or how about we make it personal and let's say your brother, if you have, one comes at you with a knife. So, what ur saying if you should kill him that you should be killed for protecting urself.

dmx: no, that just makes us look like savages. A quick death by injection will do just nicely. Just as long as they aren't breathing anymore.
The thing is...Peterson is a savage. He showed absolutly no feeling and not to mention he chopped her head off and had to dispose of the body. To do both of these things he had to be really close to the dead body and unborn child, his unborn child...what he did to the woman was just disgusting. Then after the fact he went along with his affair and acted like nothing was wrong. He should get life so that he is stuck in the ass with tons of wierd shaped sharp crude dirty objects.



Edited By Elena on 1103079477

[SSJDan]

here's a thought why not get rid of the death penalty, save money on life inprisonment, put the surplus into programs that will reduce crime.

if you compare crime rates between countries who have the death penalty and countries who don;t have the death penalty the numbers aren;t far off.

but you have to match up the crimes. I don't know what crime you have to commit to get the death penalty other than murder.

So try comparing murder rates from country to country.

[Virtual Fighter]

here's a thought why not get rid of the death penalty, save money on life inprisonment, put the surplus into programs that will reduce crime.

A Duke University study found... "The death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life." ( The costs of processing murder cases in North Carolina / Philip J. Cook, Donna B. Slawson ; with the assistance of Lori A. Gries. [Durham, NC] : Terry Sanford Institute of Public Policy, Duke University, 1993.)

"The death penalty costs California $90 million annually beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system - $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level." (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988).

"A 1991 study of the Texas criminal justice system estimated the cost of appealing capital murder at $2,316,655. In contrast, the cost of housing a prisoner in a Texas maximum security prison single cell for 40 years is estimated at $750,000." (Punishment and the Death Penalty, edited by Robert M. Baird and Stuart E. Rosenbaum 1995 p.109 )

"Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty from 1973 to 1988 to achieve 18 executions - that is an average of $3.2 million per execution."
(Miami Herald, July 10, 1988).

"Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million. If incarceration is estimated to cost $17000/year, a comparable statistic for life in prison of 40 years would be $680,000."
(The Geography of Execution... The Capital Punishment Quagmire in America, Keith Harries and Derral Cheatwood 1997 p.6)

Figures from the General Accounting Office are close to these results. Total annual costs for all U.S. Prisons, State and Federal, was $17.7 billion in 1994 along with a total prison population of 1.1 million inmates. That amounts to $16100 per inmate/year.
(GOA report and testimony FY-97 GGD-97-15 )

From this; the cost of keeping a 25-year-old inmate for 50 years at present amounts to $805,000. Assuming 75 years as an average life span, the $805,000 figure would be the cost of life in prison. So roughly it's costing us $2 million more to execute someone than it would cost to keep them in jail for life. "



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[SBYRD5]

I believe it's wrong to take life....no matter what...life in the pin I say..

more than likily he'll commit suicide.. :down:

[75-1103076306]

no i dont think it's fair.

you shouldnt kill a person to teach them not to kill. it's hypocritical.

life in jail is hard, probably harder than the 2 seconds of pain he'll have to endure at death.

plus, sentencing someone to death costs ALOT more money than sending them to death. plus, he's gonna appeal, waisint the court's time.
Well I think no one deservs to die.Even though the man did somthing wrong they should set an example for people not to kill by not killing him.



Edited By KID-SFO on 1103142761

KKS you are being to broad what if the person didn't mean to kill the person...or maybe they were under the influence or how about we make it personal and let's say your brother, if you have, one comes at you with a knife. So, what ur saying if you should kill him that you should be killed for protecting urself.
The first instance you mentioned would fall under the category of manslaughter (which I always thought SOUNDED like it'd be more serious than murder), and manslaughter carries a less severe punishment than murder, typically.

For example, if you fall asleep at the wheel and crash and kill somebody, you wouldn't be charged with murder, it'd be manslaughter.

As far as your latter example, about self defense, that's the kind of thing that would be determined in court. That usually ends up with a jail sentence for a little while. There was a case in which an indy wrestler (can't remember his name, was interviewed in Beyond the Mat) was charged with a quadruple homicide, but it was ruled that he killed the four men in self defense, and therefore was acquitted.

It all depends on the circumstances surrounding the death to determine if it's murder, manslaughter, or something else.

[Elena]

Joe, what i'm getting at is that he was basically saying anyone, which is why I said he was being too broad.

[Abdoun_bacK]

An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
Ahh..Gandi..i think it was. So do any of you guys believe in the Hamurabis code? (" an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth") In modern times, Some1 kills a person that person gets killed thats Modern Time version of Hamurabi's Code, and if you guys dont know who Hamurabi was, he was the Emperor of Babylon (present day Iraq and parts of Iran). Some countries dont even have capital punishment.. such as France. Anyway.. My idea is that in som cases you just have to take that persons life away, in other cases because emotions play a BIG role in this subject. Some people may argue killing that person may not make you happy because killing him/her will not bring back the loved one and will still be sad even though the killer is now killed. Some may be happy because that is what they really wanted. In both cases it will lead to the same thing, if the killer has been sentenced to death, that person will still be sad.

[KenDaShoto]

well put but i still belive that death penalty is wrong and as vf proved for us less expensive and therefore in any case no matter what the charge a better choice of punishment

[MasterX05]

I rather be killed then be big gay bubbas bitch for the rest of my life.

Well it was also trying to be directed at KKS as well, just using your post's examples as...well...examples.

My point is agreeing with you...there are many different levels of homicide, and not all of them are murder. KKS saying that taking someone's life should mean automatic death sentence is indeed too broad, as per what you said and I clarified.

[Virtual Fighter]

c_c

do any of you care that it costs millions of dollers more to put someone to death than it does to give them life in prison?

and i searched up those facts for nothing c_c

[Elena]

Hey VF...as you can see I responded to all of KKS paragraphs except for one...which is the one you answered...you did good VF, but I would of said it myself...just without all the details. :p



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[island_chick]

its wrong! stooping as low as the person who killed in the first place! i dunoz y ppl want to play god and decide the outcomes!

[Virtual Fighter]

well, peterson himself DID play god.

god should only play god.

you shouldn't say "you played god and killed someone! now, i shall do the same and kill you!"

it's wrong morally, it's wrong economically.

[75-1103076306]

well, peterson himself DID play god.

god should only play god.

you shouldn't say "you played god and killed someone! now, i shall do the same and kill you!"

it's wrong morally, it's wrong economically.
Yeah i strongly agree.

[KenDaShoto]

seems like sometimes we argue about agreein with each other

[Virtual Fighter]

sometimes it seems you never post anything useful.

[KenDaShoto]

cant argue with that

[mastergrim8]

ah yeah watever i think this topic is off and should be either closed or deleted