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MasterX05
04-11-2005, 06:20 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid8][img:post_uid8]http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/graphics/tupac_alive_f_sm.jpg[/img:post_uid8]

Here is a small pic of the whole page I managed to get my hands on. Because the real one was of course taking down from the web for giving false info.

But here is what the article satated

[quote:post_uid8]Unexpected twist: Tupac Shakur alive and well

By Robert Spencer
For CNN.com

(CNN) -- Rap star Tupac Shakur appeared yesterday in Beverly Hills and casually strolled through the streets as if the rest of the world had forgotten his "murder" nearly nine years ago.

Almost out of thin air, famed rapper Tupac Shakur showed up yesterday afternoon at a shopping mall in Beverly Hills. Escorted by an entourage of some ten indivduals including ex-producer Suge Knight and fellow rapper Andre Young (aka Dr. Dre), Shakur began visiting the many high-end stores he once frequented during the peak of his fame in the mid-90s. He looked as if all was well while onlookers stared in disbelief at the "ghost" before them.

In a private conference held late last night, close friends of Shakur and a small handful of reporters were privy to information about his life since the 1996 incident.

When asked why he chose to mislead the world into thinking he was dead Shakur reflected for several seconds. "I never meant to hurt my fans or anyone else," Shakur said. "There were men out there that wanted my blood and the blood of those closest to me. I did this for them. It wasn't an easy decision for me, but it was a step I knew I had to take."

According to family members and friends of the rap star, Shakur had been in hiding in the Columbian city of Cali under the assumed name of Jamal Millwood. This and other developments in the story have led many to begin investigating lyrics such as "I'm goin' back to Cali" that apparently foretold his disappearance in 1996.

It now appears that Shakur continued releasing album after album including "All Eyez On Me," "The 7 Day Theory," and "Resurrection" from that tropical location.

Conspiracy theories that abounded after the rap star's untimely death now appear confirmed. Tupac Shakur said he plans to continue the legacy he started. He said he looks forward to returning to the spotlight where he says he belongs. "I want to show all my enemies that you can't keep me down. Here I am - Resurrected," he said.

CNN Bureau Chief Aaron Nichols contributed to this report.
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It seems some one just took the outline of cnn and put it in thier own website. Another dead give away to this being a fake was that the links didnt work. Also the web address was not cnn.com bout a domain name from a domain hoster.
What got me was it had ppl going even my girl and her friend called me claming he was really alive and on t.v with CNN.[/color:post_uid8]

asshole
04-11-2005, 11:17 PM
OH, damn... that's a good Prank.

RepliForce
04-12-2005, 04:55 AM
I think that Tupac is really Alive.

He have rec more cd than an artist alive ........

I have read a lot of things who can prove that he is alive.

asshole
04-12-2005, 12:24 PM
Right.. you've READ!

marvel911
04-12-2005, 02:52 PM
Haha, some people. :p

Dark_Paladin_X
04-12-2005, 03:01 PM
oh my gosh...

i really started believing it when i read it. :down: I dunno if he's really gone now or not. Aww man, im so confused now.

shy_gurL21
04-12-2005, 03:21 PM
meh... i like to believe he's still alive. i can still feel his presence.... maybe it's just me.:;):

black_dragon22
04-12-2005, 03:38 PM
He is dead. No question about it. Unless he is alive....then there are questions....

Virtual Fighter
04-12-2005, 03:41 PM
Thanks for stating the obviuse, sherlock.

EvilAkuma
04-12-2005, 03:52 PM
I knew he was alive all this time. Y would they be selling CD of tupac at this year when they said he died 9 years ago. He was hiding and trying to suprise us by a heart attack

Virtual Fighter
04-12-2005, 03:59 PM
Did you even READ anything that was said?

It's a fliping april fools joke! Tupac is dead!

EvilAkuma
04-12-2005, 04:43 PM
Did you even READ anything that was said?

It's a fliping april fools joke! Tupac is dead!
[color=#000080]He's alive, i know he's alive.

Permita que las personas piensen que

MasterX05
04-12-2005, 04:56 PM
They said this article went up on the web on April 2,2005. So of course this was a April fools joke that continue for so long as know ppl are relizing its a fake and its April 12,2005.

EvilAkuma
04-12-2005, 05:02 PM
NO he's alive, i know it

:cry:

ryzcvk
04-12-2005, 05:27 PM
Sigh .. Some people wont just accept the fact that Tupac is dead ..

Virtual Fighter
04-12-2005, 05:55 PM
Tupac, just likie elvis, john lennon and john F keneddy are still alive.

evryoung8998
04-12-2005, 06:07 PM
you forgot Frank Senatra :;):

MasterX05
04-12-2005, 06:08 PM
ok even reading the article ppl can tell its false. One good reason why the hell would Tupac be shopping with Suge knight and Dr.Dre? First of Dr.dre already broke away from the death row rec label. And ppl have suspect that Suge was the reason of tupacs death or was one of the ones in on his death.



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Shingko
04-12-2005, 06:35 PM
you guys, come on he IS dead he was shot OK!!!! there are more realises coming out because there are showing songs that tupac never released to the media before and rappers such as eminem is putting his own lyrics mixed with tupac's lyrics to make it sound like a duet or a remix DUUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!

marvel911
04-12-2005, 08:58 PM
Sigh .. Some people wont just accept the fact that Tupac is dead ..
Dead or alive, I just wish he'd go away.

gieandfer
04-12-2005, 09:44 PM
does this mean Big L Biggie Smalls and Big Pun are liars too?
im playin that was cold......

anyways ive been knowing hes alive from the start . but did anyone believe me? no . now look . i laugh at u people . call me crazy i care no less i got alot more evidence than this article too . heres my view . its the year 2002 i think . tupac resurection came out an my brother wanted to watch it . he figured out about tupac by some mtv thing . that was the time when he thought eminem was the greatest . anyways now he forgot about all the other rappers an now has tupac stuff . im serious he got every song of him . and also i cant go anywhere without him saying o ur coping tupac . i aint gonna lie i respect tupac but this guy is makin me hate his guts........everything we do has to deal with tupac . hes chilled out nowbut he still likes him . my god every second hes playin a song of him even though i do like most of them like hit em up, life goes on, changes, and thugs mansion . so once i got so pissed off now we kinda got a war goin on about whose better biggie or tupac . me i like to say biggie cause biggie was more speakable an also cause my brother makin me hate tupac . and now im tellin him right now tupacs alive an hes like omg shut up an stuff . u see what i mean? i kept tellin him tupacs alive man an once they find him ill be the one laughin . and now look . people thought i was crazy but im not . after all this evidence he still believes hes dead . u people actually thought he was dead but i didnt . only guy thats dead is big l big pun dont knowbout biggie but those people actually died .
go ahead call me crazy i finally proved hes alive

Virtual Fighter
04-12-2005, 10:00 PM
WHAT EVIDENCE?

You just talked about how you went to go see his movie and like his songs, or something. Are you insane?

Tupac is LONG DEAD!

This article was an april FOOLS joke!

Key word: FOOLS. as in only FOOLS believe it.

For god sakes, tupac got shot with a shot gun 5 times, they pronounced him dead at the hospitle. Instead of acting like a fool and thinking he's alive, atleast be an ogirinal conspericy theorist and talk about WHO killed him.

Because he's dead. Biggie is dead, tupac is dead, Big pun is dead, they're all DEAD.

They were killed. There is NO evidence to proov they're alive, and even WITH evidence it's useless unless you have the actual person, standing before you saying "I'm not dead."

Technique
04-13-2005, 10:26 AM
This thread is a disgrace. Pac is dead, and has been since the day he was shot to death in '96. Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest pro-pac advocate this side of D.M, but leave all this 7 day theory in the dirt; six feet deep.

On another note, most of you aren't even old enough to appreciate the figuer he portrayed in society, and exactly what he was preaching--when he wasn't buckwild. VF and I have debated the life of this "icon" numerous times before, and it needs to be left alone.

Shingko
04-13-2005, 02:00 PM
WHAT EVIDENCE?

You just talked about how you went to go see his movie and like his songs, or something. Are you insane?

Tupac is LONG DEAD!

This article was an april FOOLS joke!

Key word: FOOLS. as in only FOOLS believe it.

For god sakes, tupac got shot with a shot gun 5 times, they pronounced him dead at the hospitle. Instead of acting like a fool and thinking he's alive, atleast be an ogirinal conspericy theorist and talk about WHO killed him.

Because he's dead. Biggie is dead, tupac is dead, Big pun is dead, they're all DEAD.

They were killed. There is NO evidence to proov they're alive, and even WITH evidence it's useless unless you have the actual person, standing before you saying "I'm not dead."
BRAVO

gieandfer
04-13-2005, 03:19 PM
WHAT EVIDENCE?

You just talked about how you went to go see his movie and like his songs, or something. Are you insane?

Tupac is LONG DEAD!

This article was an april FOOLS joke!

Key word: FOOLS. as in only FOOLS believe it.

For god sakes, tupac got shot with a shot gun 5 times, they pronounced him dead at the hospitle. Instead of acting like a fool and thinking he's alive, atleast be an ogirinal conspericy theorist and talk about WHO killed him.

Because he's dead. Biggie is dead, tupac is dead, Big pun is dead, they're all DEAD.

They were killed. There is NO evidence to proov they're alive, and even WITH evidence it's useless unless you have the actual person, standing before you saying "I'm not dead."
I KILLED HIM THERE.




i also didnt mention my evidence. what evidence is seeing his movie?he also wants u to think he got shot . why do u think the cops didnt even try to find out who killed him?



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MasterX05
04-13-2005, 03:48 PM
cuz the goverment wanted him dead too. :biggrin:

Zapper
04-13-2005, 04:32 PM
too true

RepliForce
04-14-2005, 02:02 AM
Right.. you've READ!
Im french, i havent read your big post about tupac.

I have read something (write in french) 1 years ago who prove that he is alive.

Im sure that he is alive:
Before to die, his nme was Makaveli.

Read this:
-Makaveli = Machiavel.
It was a king in Italy who have made a false died. 7 years after his false died, he is come with his army and he have destroy all his rivals: They knew that he was died but he wasnt.

-In one of his music, we can heard "Im alive" (i will post later the title of the music)

-His last cd: Tupac Resurection: we can find this cd 7 years after his died (like Machiavel) and now its Tupac not Makaveli.

-In one of his clip, he is wearing shoes. These shoes didnt exist in 96.

i will post othe things, im not able to translate all in english.

I dont know if you will be able to understand, my english isnt good. :suspect:



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Virtual Fighter
04-14-2005, 07:57 AM
I have read something (write in french) 1 years ago who prove that he is alive.

No, what you read is speculations and slight EVIDENCE that he's alive. Nothing is proof untill you find an unaltered picture of him holdying a newspaper from 2005.

[Im sure that he is alive:
Before to die, his nme was Makaveli.

Read this:
-Makaveli = Machiavel.

First, those names don't even sound the same. And second, I can start calling myself John F. Kennedy, but it doesn't mean I'll get shot in the grassy knolle.

It was a king in Italy who have made a false died. 7 years after his false died, he is come with his army and he have destroy all his rivals: They knew that he was died but he wasnt.

And you think tupac didn't plan this? He even said he was going to die in a couple of months. He planned all this "Make money after I die" scheme so he would make money for his family and friends even after he's dead. Tupac wasn't exactly a genius, but he did know how to make money.

That's just a story with a slight connection. It doesn't prove he's alive. A picture of him holding today's newspaper is proof. That's just a story.

-In one of his music, we can heard "Im alive" (i will post later the title of the music)

In a bealtes record (actually, alot of them) We heard "I burried paul" and numerous other things to trick you into believing paul was dead.

Guess what? He wasn't. All of those were just coincidences.

-His last cd: Tupac Resurection: we can find this cd 7 years after his died (like Machiavel) and now its Tupac not Makaveli.

I really don't catch your drift on that one.

Again, the beatles made numerouse records after they broke up and even after John Lennon was killed.

It doesn't mean John is alive and living in Bollivia.

-In one of his clip, he is wearing shoes. These shoes didnt exist in 96.

You might be getting that from:

"51) Supposedly, in the, "Toss It Up," video, Tupac is wearing some Penny
Hardaway shoes that were unavailable before his death. And when he jumps in
the car in, "To Live And Die In LA," he has on some Jordan's that weren't
available until after his death."

But, what this quote from this site doesn't have is any pictures, and quotes or an EVIDENCE. They use the word "supposedly" becuase they know they're full of poop, and making things up.


The only way ANYONE can prove he's alive is if we have a picture of him with 2005's newspaper. That's it.

Untill then, he's alive and is accepted to be alive.

DarkstriderX
04-14-2005, 09:24 AM
he is alive he's hanging out in my basement.. :p

RepliForce
04-14-2005, 09:26 AM
Makaveli sounds like Mechiavel. :)


And one thing, before to die, Tupac is gone at his bank and he have token all his money .............

How Tupac have made to make a lots of cds ?????
Every year we can find a new cd, he sells more cd than a normal artist.


Tupac "have been killed" in Las Vegas.
Las Vegas is the town where we can find the most camera in the street of the world (is that english ????)
0 camera shoot this scene. people in the street havent seen this murder. LasVegas is a town alive in the night and people havent seen his died .........

:eh:

Tupac is Alive :buttrock:

gieandfer
04-14-2005, 03:35 PM
Makaveli sounds like Mechiavel. :)


And one thing, before to die, Tupac is gone at his bank and he have token all his money .............

How Tupac have made to make a lots of cds ?????
Every year we can find a new cd, he sells more cd than a normal artist.


Tupac "have been killed" in Las Vegas.
Las Vegas is the town where we can find the most camera in the street of the world (is that english ????)
0 camera shoot this scene. people in the street havent seen this murder. LasVegas is a town alive in the night and people havent seen his died .........

:eh:

Tupac is Alive :buttrock:
virtual u knowbolivia? i thought my friend was the only one from there. anyways im glad someones at least with me.

let me tell u somethin. the thing about machaveli(the italian one)is true. tupac jus spelled machaveli in his way .

and thats another point .i kept tellin my brother theres no way tupac couldve recorded that much songs before his death . if he did he wouldve stopped sellin the left over songs around 2000 or 2001 but it keeps goin. why? because hes recording them some place secretly . tupacs alive . he might be a kroger, in your neighborhood or he might even be reading this right now......

Technique
04-14-2005, 04:38 PM
Makaveli sounds like Mechiavel. :)


And one thing, before to die, Tupac is gone at his bank and he have token all his money .............

How Tupac have made to make a lots of cds ?????
Every year we can find a new cd, he sells more cd than a normal artist.


Tupac "have been killed" in Las Vegas.
Las Vegas is the town where we can find the most camera in the street of the world (is that english ????)
0 camera shoot this scene. people in the street havent seen this murder. LasVegas is a town alive in the night and people havent seen his died .........

:eh:

Tupac is Alive :buttrock:
virtual u knowbolivia? i thought my friend was the only one from there. anyways im glad someones at least with me.

let me tell u somethin. the thing about machaveli(the italian one)is true. tupac jus spelled machaveli in his way .

and thats another point .i kept tellin my brother theres no way tupac couldve recorded that much songs before his death . if he did he wouldve stopped sellin the left over songs around 2000 or 2001 but it keeps goin. why? because hes recording them some place secretly . tupacs alive . he might be a kroger, in your neighborhood or he might even be reading this right now......
If you know anything about Pac--or just so happened to stumble across a little known film called "Resurrection-- you would be privy to the information that Tupac was notiorious for recording upwards of ten songs a day . A number that would clearly rectify any misconception pertaining to Tupac's death and the seemingly unlimited amount of music being released as of late.

Virtual Fighter
04-14-2005, 04:49 PM
Makaveli sounds like Mechiavel. :)

So, makaveli also sounds like Medger Evans, doesn't mean Tupac is a political leader.

And one thing, before to die, Tupac is gone at his bank and he have token all his money .............

First, he knew he was gonna die. Just like Biggie, he knew "somone is out to kill me".

Second, he was going to Las Vegas. In Las Vegas, you need money. Money is in the bank. You go to the bank to get out money.

'Nuff said.


How Tupac have made to make a lots of cds ?????

Old lyrics tracked but never beated or produced brought back.

You gotta under stand, rappers and musicians now days make HUNDEREDS of songs that never make it to radio or album. They do it for situations just like this! If you die, they have hours worth of material to use.


Chris Farley came out in a movie after he died. It doesn't mean he's still alive.

Every year we can find a new cd, he sells more cd than a normal artist.

No poop. If Britney Spears were to die and came out with another CD a year later, it's gonna sell too. It doesn't mean anything but good PR and production value.

Tupac "have been killed" in Las Vegas.
Las Vegas is the town where we can find the most camera in the street of the world (is that english ????)
0 camera shoot this scene. people in the street havent seen this murder. LasVegas is a town alive in the night and people havent seen his died .........[/quote]

They don't take video of 100% of everything. Plus, he was in a car going like 55, then stopped in the stop sign and got shot. If you're tailing him, you need to be sharp as a tack to get that video.

Point of story, 99.9% of the earth's deaths arn't caught on tape, it doesn't mean 99.9% of the earth's dead are actually alive.

Want to see a picture of Tupac's Autopsy?

http://www.polish-squad.doskomp.lodz.pl/HH/Konflikty/tupac-seckja.jpg

They obviously have picures of his funeral, murder and life.

what they don't have is pictures of him alive after 96.


virtual u knowbolivia? i thought my friend was the only one from there. anyways im glad someones at least with me.

I have no connection to it personally, but Bolivia is in south america and all the speculations say Tupac is in south america or in cuba.

and thats another point .i kept tellin my brother theres no way tupac couldve recorded that much songs before his death . if he did he wouldve stopped sellin the left over songs around 2000 or 2001 but it keeps goin. why? because hes recording them some place secretly . tupacs alive . he might be a kroger, in your neighborhood or he might even be reading this right now......

Metallica recorded 33 songs for "St. Anger", only 11 made it on their album. Now, I don't know HOW many songs tupac made, but i know it's alot. And most songs on his new albums are jsut remixes or cut out verses.

gieandfer
04-14-2005, 07:19 PM
Makaveli sounds like Mechiavel. :)


And one thing, before to die, Tupac is gone at his bank and he have token all his money .............

How Tupac have made to make a lots of cds ?????
Every year we can find a new cd, he sells more cd than a normal artist.


Tupac "have been killed" in Las Vegas.
Las Vegas is the town where we can find the most camera in the street of the world (is that english ????)
0 camera shoot this scene. people in the street havent seen this murder. LasVegas is a town alive in the night and people havent seen his died .........

:eh:

Tupac is Alive :buttrock:
virtual u knowbolivia? i thought my friend was the only one from there. anyways im glad someones at least with me.

let me tell u somethin. the thing about machaveli(the italian one)is true. tupac jus spelled machaveli in his way .

and thats another point .i kept tellin my brother theres no way tupac couldve recorded that much songs before his death . if he did he wouldve stopped sellin the left over songs around 2000 or 2001 but it keeps goin. why? because hes recording them some place secretly . tupacs alive . he might be a kroger, in your neighborhood or he might even be reading this right now......
If you know anything about Pac--or just so happened to stumble across a little known film called "Resurrection-- you would be privy to the information that Tupac was notiorious for recording upwards of ten songs a day . A number that would clearly rectify any misconception pertaining to Tupac's death and the seemingly unlimited amount of music being released as of late.
well dont u think its interesting that he got killed in 1995 an its been 10 years an hes STILL comin out with more songs? i bet fifty years from now he'll release another song an yall will say it was before he died

an another thing those autopsy pictures are fake . i seen the same ones fifty times . their fake cause thats not tupac

Virtual Fighter
04-14-2005, 07:33 PM
Let's see, according to Technique, tupac did around 10 songs a day, that's 350 days in a year, that's 3500 songs a year. An average Cd has 10 songs, and a couple of remixes so in 50 years from now he will STILL have songs to put out.

And if he didn't, don't you think we would tell a distintion between 25 year old tupac and 75 year old tupac? -_-

And, those pictures arn't fake. They come from a book called "The Killing Of Tupac Shakur" by Cathy Scott. You can't just lie in a book, you know.

And, since you're not a ferensic expert, you know nothing of authenticity. So, you're "That's not tupac" means nothing.

dominicankid098
04-14-2005, 08:28 PM
For god sakes, you people can't let things go. TUPAC IS DEAD DAMN IT.

I am tired of people who won't beleive that someone died. I mean, come on, why would someone fake about his death? And don't give me that "his image" crap because I am not buying that poop. So many of you are praising him and yet you people started hearing tupac songs just 2-4 years ago when the dude died about 7 years back. -_- And you people most likely started to listen to his music thanks to your little wannabes who live in your neighborhood putting crap in your head to influence you. Everything nowadays is "gangsta". I swear, if you people can just listen to the songs 2pac have made, but seriously listen to it, then maybe you will understand what he is rapping about.

I am also tired of people not letting go of Selena. OMFG, I don't even have enough fingers to show you people how many times they have played her freakin movie, or made some little retarded biography, or some concert the past 2 weeks -_-.

Has the past month been the Revival of the Dead? Damn you people give so much attention to these artists, who would most likely wipe there ass with you, and give less attention to your own dead family members/ancestors.


=p

MasterX05
04-14-2005, 09:05 PM
back in the day after his death they had made a video of one of tupac's songs called "Smile" Featuring scar face, and in the beginning they show the very car with the bullet holes in them that tupac was in. Then they go to showing the video of Tupac tied to the cross. And at the end he was let down, but what got me going because I was young at the time was that really him. I found out that there was a rumor that it was his look alike because the guy NEVER looked into the camera. What artist never looked into the camera of thier own video? I downloaded to see myselfand its true the guy is always looking down and plus its dark.

dominicankid098
04-14-2005, 09:35 PM
He should have showed his face. There has been movies for Michael Jackson that made the main character look hideous. Jackson 5 and some other damn movie. But I think Michael Jackson did act on the movie called Smooth criminal or like other people call it "The Moonwalker", which was a pretty stupid cheesy ass movie. Come on, Michael Jackson turns into a robot, he defeats bad guys by dodging the bullets with a dance, and some girl crying about a shooting star. Can it get any cheesier? -_-



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RepliForce
04-15-2005, 01:32 AM
Oups sorry

Makaveli = Machiavel not Mechiavel.


Now, We can find all the years a new cd:
The style is never the same, its all the time a new style of music, all the time the PRESENT style. Every Year a new cd comes with the Present style. Tupac is died 8years ago. He loved to change his style ..... I think not.

And Why "Tupac Resurection" ? Why we cant find a video of his die ?

Your Answer are all easy:
Tupac took all his money in his bank before to die:
Your Answer: He is at Las Vegas ........... ??? Wow very nice answer.

Virtual Fighter
04-15-2005, 08:14 AM
Now, We can find all the years a new cd:
The style is never the same, its all the time a new style of music, all the time the PRESENT style. Every Year a new cd comes with the Present style. Tupac is died 8years ago. He loved to change his style ..... I think not.

Because it's the PRODUCERS who decide what style it's going to be in. Eminem produced some songs on the album, and if he wants them to be in the present hip hop style, he can do that. If he wants jazz, rock or dixie land he can do that too.

The only thing they have is the recordings of tupac rapping. They don't have any beats or any musical notes. The PRODUCERS are the ones who make it a song and not a recording.

And Why "Tupac Resurection" ? Why we cant find a video of his die ?

As I said before, 99.9% of people who died did not get their death video taped. Does that mean they're still alive? No.

Your Answer are all easy:
Tupac took all his money in his bank before to die:
Your Answer: He is at Las Vegas ........... ??? Wow very nice answer.

First, you didn't even give any evidence he actually did this. Second, yes, he was in Las Vegas and yes he was a rapper that spent millions of dollers in HOURS. Him taking out a large sum of money would not be unusual.

blockattack
04-15-2005, 08:22 AM
....2pac huh.. I really dont like him to be honest, or much of any rap music, so he can stay where he has been for the past 9 yrs.

dominicankid098
04-15-2005, 09:00 AM
I am guessing RepliForce is illiterate.

RepliForce
04-15-2005, 09:28 AM
Yes iam ^^

gieandfer
04-15-2005, 03:13 PM
For god sakes, you people can't let things go. TUPAC IS DEAD DAMN IT.

I am tired of people who won't beleive that someone died. I mean, come on, why would someone fake about his death? And don't give me that "his image" crap because I am not buying that poop. So many of you are praising him and yet you people started hearing tupac songs just 2-4 years ago when the dude died about 7 years back. -_- And you people most likely started to listen to his music thanks to your little wannabes who live in your neighborhood putting crap in your head to influence you. Everything nowadays is "gangsta". I swear, if you people can just listen to the songs 2pac have made, but seriously listen to it, then maybe you will understand what he is rapping about.

I am also tired of people not letting go of Selena. OMFG, I don't even have enough fingers to show you people how many times they have played her freakin movie, or made some little retarded biography, or some concert the past 2 weeks -_-.

Has the past month been the Revival of the Dead? Damn you people give so much attention to these artists, who would most likely wipe there ass with you, and give less attention to your own dead family members/ancestors.


=p
I DO KNOW WHAT HE WAS SAYIN IN HIS MUSIC . DAMN .


and as for taking all his money out of the bank, hes famous an gets paid millions. y would he need money from the bank if he can jus use the money in his pocket? an why would he take ALL his money? id say 300,000 dollars would be enough for me in Las Vegas(trust me ive been to Las Vegas durin spring break)not ALL my money in the bank

Virtual Fighter
04-15-2005, 05:12 PM
First, give us some proof from a credible sourse he actually did this, because if not it's just an urban myth.

I can also claim tupac was 15 midgits stacked one ontop of each other, but I won't because it's a lie and I can't back it up.

So post a link to back your claim up.

~$REDMAN$~
04-15-2005, 05:18 PM
For god sakes, you people can't let things go. TUPAC IS DEAD DAMN IT.

I am tired of people who won't beleive that someone died. I mean, come on, why would someone fake about his death? And don't give me that "his image" crap because I am not buying that poop. So many of you are praising him and yet you people started hearing tupac songs just 2-4 years ago when the dude died about 7 years back. -_- And you people most likely started to listen to his music thanks to your little wannabes who live in your neighborhood putting crap in your head to influence you. Everything nowadays is "gangsta". I swear, if you people can just listen to the songs 2pac have made, but seriously listen to it, then maybe you will understand what he is rapping about.

I am also tired of people not letting go of Selena. OMFG, I don't even have enough fingers to show you people how many times they have played her freakin movie, or made some little retarded biography, or some concert the past 2 weeks -_-.

Has the past month been the Revival of the Dead? Damn you people give so much attention to these artists, who would most likely wipe there ass with you, and give less attention to your own dead family members/ancestors.


=p
I DO KNOW WHAT HE WAS SAYIN IN HIS MUSIC . DAMN .


and as for taking all his money out of the bank, hes famous an gets paid millions. y would he need money from the bank if he can jus use the money in his pocket? an why would he take ALL his money? id say 300,000 dollars would be enough for me in Las Vegas(trust me ive been to Las Vegas durin spring break)not ALL my money in the bank
damn man tupacs dead as a muther fker

dontmesswitme
04-16-2005, 07:13 AM
...famed rapper Tupac Shakur showed up yesterday afternoon at a shopping mall in Beverly Hills. Escorted by an entourage of some ten indivduals including ex-producer Suge Knight and fellow rapper Andre Young (aka Dr. Dre)...
Lol. Why would Suge go out with 2pac anyways?

Geez everybody, Tupac's dead. May he rest in peace.

Nosoul4Sfo
04-16-2005, 12:16 PM
Man He is Dead...... Its official...... I saw the Auptopsy...... He had stiches on his stomach..... I saw the bottom everything even his*You KNow was is Jacked up* Lungs taken out and his head has a piece of skin ripped up..... It really weird.....

I warn you if you see this picture Have a Bucket next you :cry:

gieandfer
04-16-2005, 02:31 PM
Man He is Dead...... Its official...... I saw the Auptopsy...... He had stiches on his stomach..... I saw the bottom everything even his*You KNow was is Jacked up* Lungs taken out and his head has a piece of skin ripped up..... It really weird.....

I warn you if you see this picture Have a Bucket next you :cry:
yea what were suge an pac doin together....alone....at night.....

anyways fine if youwanna believe hes alive jus believe it then. but yall r gonna feel dmb when they really find him. and let me see the pic.give me a link or somethin

trunks_1242
04-16-2005, 04:11 PM
:stupid: well just go on google.com and click on images and go on page 17 and scroll down and you will see him dead....yes hes been dead also it was a april fools joke about this cnn thing if you still think hes alive....ask Afeni Shakur :confused:


also didnt wanna post the pic because it might freak some ppl out its really nasty :suspect:



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MasterX05
04-16-2005, 10:50 PM
plz to all the new ppl, if youare going to make a post plz make it a decent post instead of some mess like I never like tupac or yeah that mo fo is dead.

Im really trying to figure this ish out myself, so I can prove my girl and her friend wrong. So I can get a free dinner at Applebees.

DA_VIPA
04-17-2005, 02:43 AM
i searched for tupac pics once an i got to this pic where he was in the morgue...i felt disrespectful lookin at it but that was him dead as a door nail. applause to whoever pulled that prank. he pwned everyone.

RepliForce
04-17-2005, 03:59 AM
Man He is Dead...... Its official...... I saw the Auptopsy...... He had stiches on his stomach..... I saw the bottom everything even his*You KNow was is Jacked up* Lungs taken out and his head has a piece of skin ripped up..... It really weird.....

I warn you if you see this picture Have a Bucket next you :cry:
Lol , im sure that you lie.

Or maybe it was a little movie but not a real (just a scene of Tupac's Autopsie: it wasnt for real)

gieandfer
04-17-2005, 01:19 PM
do u know what computers are doin these days? they couldve just digitalized tupac

Virtual Fighter
04-17-2005, 01:54 PM
And they could also "digitalize" any proof YOU have!

So really, your own ARGUMENT is falling apart!

Get us some evidence or PROOF, because you havn't done that yet.

RepliForce
04-17-2005, 02:36 PM
We have already give some proof.

-Shoes for example.
-A lots of CD. (50Cent have made less CD than Tupac, same for SnoopDogg) How is that possible, Tupac was famous only 5 years ===> 5 years he song all the time ?? im not sure .....
Just be realist, he is alive, we will see him this year :xmas: (Im joking here)
-All his money: He have taken ALL his money: ALL you cant spend all your money in a night !!!!!!! Dont be stupid ......

Virtual Fighter
04-17-2005, 02:51 PM
-Shoes for example.

That's just an urban myth which you havn't even TRIED to explain.

I can also say tupac went to space, but untill I show credible evidence (IE: links to a credible news source, pictures of him, interviews with family) IT'S NOT TRUE.

-A lots of CD. (50Cent have made less CD than Tupac, same for SnoopDogg) How is that possible, Tupac was famous only 5 years ===> 5 years he song all the time ?? im not sure .....

He made up to ten songs A DAY!

"Syke said that this is something that he and Tupac were working on before Tupac was shot. They completed 10 songs in the studio with Pac, but when Pac was shot they had two unfinished songs left for "Thug Life vol.2."
http://216.109.117.135/search....intl=us (http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=tupac+10+songs+a+day&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Screen/4433/upcoming&w=tupac+10+songs+day&d=10E16767FA&icp=1&.intl=us)


On the week he was SHOT, he even made 10 songs.

He's got a poop load of music left, much of which we might not even hear.

Oh, and I found somethnig VERY interesting on your little "Mikavelli" name:

(from Allmusicguide.com)

"Everything about The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory smacks of exploitation. Released only eight weeks after Tupac Shakur died from gunshot wounds, Death Row released this posthumous album under the name of Makaveli, a pseudonym derived from the Italian politician Niccolo Machiavelli, who faked his own death and reappeared seven days later to take revenge on his enemies. Naturally, the appearance of Don Killuminati so shortly after Tupac's death led many conspiracy theorists to surmise the rapper was still alive, but it was all part of a calculated marketing strategy by Death Row -- the label needed something to sustain interest in the album, since the music here is so shoddy."

They are ofcourse talking about http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:ozcyxddboold, which is a very poopty album.

-All his money: He have taken ALL his money: ALL you cant spend all your money in a night !!!!!!! Dont be stupid ......

Again, that's unproven, you've provided NO evidence to back that up.



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gieandfer
04-17-2005, 04:46 PM
like i said. he didnt have to take all his money out. id say a good 300,000$ would be enough. and also he has money in his pocket, use that. an also i said if he did make ten songs a day, they shouldve died out like in 2001 or 2002. but it keeps going. do the math. he released thousands of cds an when he died he shouldnt of had that much songs left. with the remixes it should end in 2004 but it jus keeps goin.



LIKE I ALSO SAID. if youWANNA BELIEVE HES ALIVE GO AHEAD. BUT WHEN THEY FIND HIM YALL WONT HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY



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KensDestruction
04-17-2005, 05:10 PM
two pac come home man im looking for u


he run from me when i was sleep *hmmm....*

Dark_Paladin_X
04-17-2005, 07:33 PM
We have already give some proof.

-Shoes for example.
-A lots of CD. (50Cent have made less CD than Tupac, same for SnoopDogg) How is that possible, Tupac was famous only 5 years ===> 5 years he song all the time ?? im not sure .....
Just be realist, he is alive, we will see him this year :xmas: (Im joking here)
-All his money: He have taken ALL his money: ALL you cant spend all your money in a night !!!!!!! Dont be stupid ......
from my recollection. 50 cent has been making CD's since 2000. Tupac died in 1996. unless the fact that 50 made music with him, and saved it for 4 yrs (which isn't likely) would prove that Tupac is alive.

Still gathering information.....

Virtual Fighter
04-17-2005, 07:36 PM
like i said. he didnt have to take all his money out. id say a good 300,000$ would be enough. and also he has money in his pocket, use that.

Prove it. Prove he took all that money out.

Give me a link, give me a video, give me a picture, ANYTHING to prove he did that.

Because I can say tupac went to the moon, but unless I prove it IT'S NOT TRUE.

an also i said if he did make ten songs a day, they shouldve died out like in 2001 or 2002. but it keeps going. do the math.

YOU do the math.

He was recording for five years, ten songs a day for 1825 days, 10 songs a day means 18250 songs, 12 songs in a CD means he could make 1520 CDs from those songs.

If they release 2 Cds a year, it would last for 760 years, meaning the last tupac song will be used in the year 2765.

This ofcourse is an exaturation, since they're not gonna use all those songs and he didn't really record all those, but point of story, he has a poop load of songs and a poop load of possible Cds to release.

All they need is a verse, and they got a tupac song. All you need is a couple of lines, add a beat, make a girl sing the chorus and it'll be fine.

he released thousands of cds an when he died he shouldnt of had that much songs left. with the remixes it should end in 2004 but it jus keeps goin.

THOUSANDS OF CD'S? ARE YOU INSANE?

He released 7 albums after he died, and most of them are remixes, one verse songs, lives or interviews.

They are:

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory
R U Still Down? (Remember Me)
Still I Rise
The Rose That Grew from Concrete, Vol. 1
Until the End of Time
Better Dayz
Loyal to the Game

That's 84 songs. He could have recorded that in 9 days. All those albums in only 9 days!



LIKE I ALSO SAID. if youWANNA BELIEVE HES ALIVE GO AHEAD. BUT WHEN THEY FIND HIM YALL WONT HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY


It's been 9 years since he's died. He's not gonna come back, and it won't be us looking like a bunch of fools when you're 50, still waiting for tupac to be alive.

gieandfer
04-17-2005, 07:50 PM
u want proof? here it is. if no one took a pic of his death then how they get this one?

http://www.alleyezonme.com/photos/mids/50.jpg

gieandfer
04-17-2005, 07:57 PM
heres more proof. im pretty sure this is the one nosoul was talkin bout. it aint gross . i can look at it all day u know why?

CUZ ITS NOT TUPAC DOES THIS LOOK LIKE TUPAC HOW THE flipWOULD HIS SKIN BE GONE IF HE GOT SHOT? DID HE GET SHANKED UP TOO?http://www.uselessjunk.org/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10675/copy_of_copy_of_autopsyemailcolor.jpg

Virtual Fighter
04-17-2005, 08:17 PM
u want proof? here it is. if no one took a pic of his death then how they get this one?


That's the very last picture the paparatzi took before tupac was shot and killed. They obviously have no pitcures of the shooting becuase it's impossible to catch a bullet going 700 miles per hour.

heres more proof. im pretty sure this is the one nosoul was talkin bout. it aint gross . i can look at it all day u know why?

CUZ ITS NOT TUPAC DOES THIS LOOK LIKE TUPAC HOW THE flipWOULD HIS SKIN BE GONE IF HE GOT SHOT? DID HE GET SHANKED UP TOO?


Do you know what an autopsy is? That's when people, with knives look through your body, remove bullets, stich up bullette holes and see why and how you died.

That missing skin is because of the autopsy and because of the searchnig they did throughout his body to find the bullets and stitch him back up.

Now, I didn't want pictures of tupac. I've seen those before, examined them, whatever. I want proof that he took out all his money from the las vegas bank. Give me some proof, some pictures, some videos, anything to prove he took out all this money.

gieandfer
04-17-2005, 08:25 PM
o ye au got me there on the autospy. forgot they did that. an also couldnt the papratzzi or whatever follow him an like do an interview or somethin? an also look closely at the autospy. weres all his tatoos? that isnt tupac

dominicankid098
04-17-2005, 09:31 PM
u want proof? here it is. if no one took a pic of his death then how they get this one?

http://www.alleyezonme.com/photos/mids/50.jpg
That's funny you found that pic. Especially since he died September 13th, 1996. That picture was 5 days before his death. You can see the date on the left bottom corner. But wow, that might be the most recent pic of him taken while he was alive.

gieandfer
04-17-2005, 10:02 PM
u want proof? here it is. if no one took a pic of his death then how they get this one?

http://www.alleyezonme.com/photos/mids/50.jpg
That's funny you found that pic. Especially since he died September 13th, 1996. That picture was 5 days before his death. You can see the date on the left bottom corner. But wow, that might be the most recent pic of him taken while he was alive.
they took it before he "died"

RepliForce
04-18-2005, 03:05 AM
like i said. he didnt have to take all his money out. id say a good 300,000$ would be enough. and also he has money in his pocket, use that.

Prove it. Prove he took all that money out.

Give me a link, give me a video, give me a picture, ANYTHING to prove he did that.

Because I can say tupac went to the moon, but unless I prove it IT'S NOT TRUE.

an also i said if he did make ten songs a day, they shouldve died out like in 2001 or 2002. but it keeps going. do the math.

YOU do the math.

He was recording for five years, ten songs a day for 1825 days, 10 songs a day means 18250 songs, 12 songs in a CD means he could make 1520 CDs from those songs.

If they release 2 Cds a year, it would last for 760 years, meaning the last tupac song will be used in the year 2765.

This ofcourse is an exaturation, since they're not gonna use all those songs and he didn't really record all those, but point of story, he has a poop load of songs and a poop load of possible Cds to release.

All they need is a verse, and they got a tupac song. All you need is a couple of lines, add a beat, make a girl sing the chorus and it'll be fine.

he released thousands of cds an when he died he shouldnt of had that much songs left. with the remixes it should end in 2004 but it jus keeps goin.

THOUSANDS OF CD'S? ARE YOU INSANE?

He released 7 albums after he died, and most of them are remixes, one verse songs, lives or interviews.

They are:

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory
R U Still Down? (Remember Me)
Still I Rise
The Rose That Grew from Concrete, Vol. 1
Until the End of Time
Better Dayz
Loyal to the Game

That's 84 songs. He could have recorded that in 9 days. All those albums in only 9 days!



LIKE I ALSO SAID. if youWANNA BELIEVE HES ALIVE GO AHEAD. BUT WHEN THEY FIND HIM YALL WONT HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY


It's been 9 years since he's died. He's not gonna come back, and it won't be us looking like a bunch of fools when you're 50, still waiting for tupac to be alive.
LMAO, it was very funny :D

omg, i was near to die.

RepliForce
04-18-2005, 03:41 AM
Dominicankid
"That's funny you found that pic. Especially since he died September 13th, 1996. That picture was 5 days before his death. You can see the date on the left bottom corner. But wow, that might be the most recent pic of him taken while he was alive. "

Incult !!!!!!!!!!

Tupac have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is fallen in a coma, and he is dead 7 day after.

Look these Pics:
Before his death, at MGM the night of his death.


http://pacside.free.fr/Dphoto.jpg
It was a new medal, before this his medal was the deathRow record's medal.

After his death
http://pacside.free.fr/flic.jpg

WTF he wore an other medal !!!! It wasnt the Deathrow medal.

Now lets go:
-After his death The title of his album was MAKAVELI
Tupac was a fan of Machiaveli, he have read his book a lots of time (he have admited this)
Nicccolo Machiaveli have write a lots of Book: "The Prince" is THE book with Machiaveli's story. Tupac have read this book in Prison and at home. When he is dead the police had found this book.

-Why the polive havent tried to catch the ppl who have shoot Tupac and Suge ?? Just try to steal something in a casino, the police will pursage you.

-Tupac's Death Date: Vendredi 13 (September 96) ..... Just Strange

-Now Read this an open your Eyes !!!!
MAKAVEKI, just forget the K: MA AVELI. Oki Now find with your head: MA KAVELI ==> AM ALIVE (its strange here too)

- MAKAVELI Album:
==>Song 5: Blasphemy. heard this music.

==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ????"

-Toss it up the clip: you can see Tupac with new shoes: Penny Hardaway. These shoes was sold after his death.


:buttrock: Tupac is Alive.

gieandfer
04-18-2005, 02:19 PM
another thing my brother himself even figured out. in the beggining of "god bless the dead" tupac clearly says "Rest In Peace To The Muthfkin Biggie Smalls" how the flip would he knowbiggies dead if he died before him? this song was released when him an biggie were still friends. maybe tupac is dead. or maybe he jus planned out his death an jus left out clues

Virtual Fighter
04-18-2005, 05:23 PM
Look these Pics:
Before his death, at MGM the night of his death.

It was a new medal, before this his medal was the deathRow record's medal.
After his death
WTF he wore an other medal !!!! It wasnt the Deathrow medal.


Okay, there are many different ways to tackle that. I'll go through each one.

1) Okay, we don't even know if that's in context. I can say:

http://www.monadology.net/aboutme/images/dan/tupac.jpg

This picture was taken the day of tupac's death.

http://www.klangundkleid.ch/img/plakate/musik/432540_Tupac-And-SnoopDoggyDog-DressedInSuits.jpg

Now he's in a suit! It doesn't make sense! That proves he's alive!

Yeah, I agree, but does the prove he's alive? No, it proves there is ambiguity in your pictures and there was a miscommunication.

We don't even know if that picture WAS taken on the day of his death, if it was the medal in question, if it has been photoshopped or those photos have been planted!

Point of story, they don't make sense.


2) The website you got them from even AGREE that he's dead.

You got them from pacside.com, right?
Well check this out:
http://www.pacside.com/pacside....t=Tupac (http://www.pacside.com/pacsideen/index.php?page=view&txt=His%20last%20hours&cat=Tupac)

Why would they be arguing for something they don't believe in? That doesn't make sense, and you're probably posting pictures out of context.

3) Third, he could have had those necklasses in his pocket or even in the car, or even in the general vacinity. They might actually have been Suge knight's!

Now lets go:
-After his death The title of his album was MAKAVELI
Tupac was a fan of Machiaveli, he have read his book a lots of time (he have admited this)
Nicccolo Machiaveli have write a lots of Book: "The Prince" is THE book with Machiaveli's story. Tupac have read this book in Prison and at home. When he is dead the police had found this book.

WRONG.

"The Prince" is NOT about Machiaveli's life, it was about how to rule as a monarch. The book says you should rule without religion, without mercey and without honor. I know this becuase I actually read this book just recently.

Now, if Tupac liked Machiaveli or not doesn't matter. Personally, I like malcolm X. It doesn't mean I'm gonna be shot while delivering a speech. I also like Abreham Lincoln, it doesn't mean I'm gonna become president.

Second, death row created this Makaveli name becuase they WANTED TO SELL RECORDS! They needed a hook, something interesting to sell "Don killumati", becuase the music itself was so poopty.

Look, even AMG agrees:

"Everything about The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory smacks of exploitation. Released only eight weeks after Tupac Shakur died from gunshot wounds, Death Row released this posthumous album under the name of Makaveli, a pseudonym derived from the Italian politician Niccolo Machiavelli, who faked his own death and reappeared seven days later to take revenge on his enemies. Naturally, the appearance of Don Killuminati so shortly after Tupac's death led many conspiracy theorists to surmise the rapper was still alive, but it was all part of a calculated marketing strategy by Death Row -- the label needed something to sustain interest in the album, since the music here is so shoddy."

-Why the polive havent tried to catch the ppl who have shoot Tupac and Suge ?? Just try to steal something in a casino, the police will pursage you.

That's because there are multiple reports of police curruption, linking with gangmembers and even conspiring against tupac with those who wanted to harm him.

How come they havn't found Martain Luther King's murderers? Does that mean HE'S still alive?

-Tupac's Death Date: Vendredi 13 (September 96) ..... Just Strange

The 13th? I thought it was the 14th. You even said so yourself:

"
Tupac have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is fallen in a coma, and he is dead 7 day after."

So which is it, the 14th or 13th?

-Now Read this an open your Eyes !!!!
MAKAVEKI, just forget the K: MA AVELI. Oki Now find with your head: MA KAVELI ==> AM ALIVE (its strange here too)

There is NO connection with makaveli and "I am alive". That's just retarded, and ofcourse the original Michaiveli didn't plan this, so it's not true.


- MAKAVELI Album:

That album sucked. 99.9% of it was just death row hype, production and rumors to carry this album to big places when it's a bunch of fat air.

==>Song 5: Blasphemy. heard this music.

Yeah, I heard it. What is it about? Jesus, religion, god, blasphemy.

What does that mean? There's gonna be a whole mess load of death in it.

Jimi Hendrex sang about death, does that mean he's still alive?


==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ????"

That's such a lie. He doesn't even say that! Here are the lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/tupac-shakur/white-mans-world.html

He doesn't say that or anything CLOSE to that.

-Toss it up the clip: you can see Tupac with new shoes: Penny Hardaway. These shoes was sold after his death.

I looked for that song, for that video, for those shoes, for some images.

I found nothing.

Now, unless you give us those pictures of those shoes (and don't forget to prove he took out that money), you can't use that argument.

I can CLAIM tupac went to the moon, but unless I prove it, it's a lie.

:buttrock: Tupac is Alive.

No, he's dead. Quit being a conspirecy theorist and face the damn facts.

I can claim John Lennon is alive, but unless I have him here, right now, it's a lie.

---------------------


another thing my brother himself even figured out. in the beggining of "god bless the dead" tupac clearly says "Rest In Peace To The Muthfkin Biggie Smalls" how the flip would he knowbiggies dead if he died before him? this song was released when him an biggie were still friends. maybe tupac is dead. or maybe he jus planned out his death an jus left out clues


-_-

Biggie and Tupac hated each other. They didn't like each other and were constantly saying they would kill each other. If you say "Rest in peace, tupac" when tupac isn't dead yet, you are basically giving a death threat.

If tupac said "Rest in peace, the pope" Does that mean tupac is still alive? Or does it just mean he's saying things because he hates the pope, as we can see in lyrics like "White man's world"?

He's dead, dude. Face it.

KensDestruction
04-18-2005, 05:53 PM
wtf u say im not reading all of that *i cant read*

Virtual Fighter
04-18-2005, 06:34 PM
Ignorance is the only way for you.

Elena
04-18-2005, 06:50 PM
Look these Pics:
Before his death, at MGM the night of his death.

It was a new medal, before this his medal was the deathRow record's medal.
After his death
WTF he wore an other medal !!!! It wasnt the Deathrow medal.


Okay, there are many different ways to tackle that. I'll go through each one.

1) Okay, we don't even know if that's in context. I can say:

http://www.monadology.net/aboutme/images/dan/tupac.jpg

This picture was taken the day of tupac's death.

http://www.klangundkleid.ch/img/plakate/musik/432540_Tupac-And-SnoopDoggyDog-DressedInSuits.jpg

Now he's in a suit! It doesn't make sense! That proves he's alive!

Yeah, I agree, but does the prove he's alive? No, it proves there is ambiguity in your pictures and there was a miscommunication.

We don't even know if that picture WAS taken on the day of his death, if it was the medal in question, if it has been photoshopped or those photos have been planted!

Point of story, they don't make sense.


2) The website you got them from even AGREE that he's dead.

You got them from pacside.com, right?
Well check this out:
http://www.pacside.com/pacside....t=Tupac (http://www.pacside.com/pacsideen/index.php?page=view&txt=His%20last%20hours&cat=Tupac)

Why would they be arguing for something they don't believe in? That doesn't make sense, and you're probably posting pictures out of context.

3) Third, he could have had those necklasses in his pocket or even in the car, or even in the general vacinity. They might actually have been Suge knight's!

Now lets go:
-After his death The title of his album was MAKAVELI
Tupac was a fan of Machiaveli, he have read his book a lots of time (he have admited this)
Nicccolo Machiaveli have write a lots of Book: "The Prince" is THE book with Machiaveli's story. Tupac have read this book in Prison and at home. When he is dead the police had found this book.

WRONG.

"The Prince" is NOT about Machiaveli's life, it was about how to rule as a monarch. The book says you should rule without religion, without mercey and without honor. I know this becuase I actually read this book just recently.

Now, if Tupac liked Machiaveli or not doesn't matter. Personally, I like malcolm X. It doesn't mean I'm gonna be shot while delivering a speech. I also like Abreham Lincoln, it doesn't mean I'm gonna become president.

Second, death row created this Makaveli name becuase they WANTED TO SELL RECORDS! They needed a hook, something interesting to sell "Don killumati", becuase the music itself was so poopty.

Look, even AMG agrees:

"Everything about The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory smacks of exploitation. Released only eight weeks after Tupac Shakur died from gunshot wounds, Death Row released this posthumous album under the name of Makaveli, a pseudonym derived from the Italian politician Niccolo Machiavelli, who faked his own death and reappeared seven days later to take revenge on his enemies. Naturally, the appearance of Don Killuminati so shortly after Tupac's death led many conspiracy theorists to surmise the rapper was still alive, but it was all part of a calculated marketing strategy by Death Row -- the label needed something to sustain interest in the album, since the music here is so shoddy."

-Why the polive havent tried to catch the ppl who have shoot Tupac and Suge ?? Just try to steal something in a casino, the police will pursage you.

That's because there are multiple reports of police curruption, linking with gangmembers and even conspiring against tupac with those who wanted to harm him.

How come they havn't found Martain Luther King's murderers? Does that mean HE'S still alive?

-Tupac's Death Date: Vendredi 13 (September 96) ..... Just Strange

The 13th? I thought it was the 14th. You even said so yourself:

"
Tupac have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is fallen in a coma, and he is dead 7 day after."

So which is it, the 14th or 13th?

-Now Read this an open your Eyes !!!!
MAKAVEKI, just forget the K: MA AVELI. Oki Now find with your head: MA KAVELI ==> AM ALIVE (its strange here too)

There is NO connection with makaveli and "I am alive". That's just retarded, and ofcourse the original Michaiveli didn't plan this, so it's not true.


- MAKAVELI Album:

That album sucked. 99.9% of it was just death row hype, production and rumors to carry this album to big places when it's a bunch of fat air.

==>Song 5: Blasphemy. heard this music.

Yeah, I heard it. What is it about? Jesus, religion, god, blasphemy.

What does that mean? There's gonna be a whole mess load of death in it.

Jimi Hendrex sang about death, does that mean he's still alive?


==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ????"

That's such a lie. He doesn't even say that! Here are the lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/tupac-shakur/white-mans-world.html

He doesn't say that or anything CLOSE to that.

-Toss it up the clip: you can see Tupac with new shoes: Penny Hardaway. These shoes was sold after his death.

I looked for that song, for that video, for those shoes, for some images.

I found nothing.

Now, unless you give us those pictures of those shoes (and don't forget to prove he took out that money), you can't use that argument.

I can CLAIM tupac went to the moon, but unless I prove it, it's a lie.

:buttrock: Tupac is Alive.

No, he's dead. Quit being a conspirecy theorist and face the damn facts.

I can claim John Lennon is alive, but unless I have him here, right now, it's a lie.

---------------------


another thing my brother himself even figured out. in the beggining of "god bless the dead" tupac clearly says "Rest In Peace To The Muthfkin Biggie Smalls" how the flip would he knowbiggies dead if he died before him? this song was released when him an biggie were still friends. maybe tupac is dead. or maybe he jus planned out his death an jus left out clues


-_-

Biggie and Tupac hated each other. They didn't like each other and were constantly saying they would kill each other. If you say "Rest in peace, tupac" when tupac isn't dead yet, you are basically giving a death threat.

If tupac said "Rest in peace, the pope" Does that mean tupac is still alive? Or does it just mean he's saying things because he hates the pope, as we can see in lyrics like "White man's world"?

He's dead, dude. Face it.
Bravo! Excellent points....and did you makes those pictures? Or did someone else do it because they did a bad job of cutting and pasting....each person who was put in the picture had a different quality....but anyways....

I wish you people would give it up...2pac is dead...I think his death...added to his stardom anyways.

trunks_1242
04-18-2005, 06:59 PM
eh....even if he still were alive dont you think someone would of said something..... :confused:

Virtual Fighter
04-18-2005, 07:10 PM
Bravo! Excellent points....and did you makes those pictures? Or did someone else do it because they did a bad job of cutting and pasting....each person who was put in the picture had a different quality....but anyways....

No, becuase those two pictures was my annalogy of taking pictures out of context, since those two pictures could have been taken on two different days on two different situations, as were the two pictures I posted, and slapped on a foolish claim in the end of it.

RepliForce
04-19-2005, 02:42 PM
Quote
==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ?"


That's such a lie. He doesn't even say that! Here are the lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/tupac-shakur/white-mans-world.html

He doesn't say that or anything CLOSE to that.


Dont forget that im french, i have read the french Lyrics, im not able to REtranslate them in english !! :)
The Prince is a book about a monarch, this monarch is Machiaveli, Nicocolo Machiaveli a war monarch.

All my friends and me think that he is alive. :colgate:


-He have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is dead 7 days after: You undertand.
7 8 9 10 11 12 13. 7 days where is the prob :sleeping:

I will repost later, two days in party, i have drunk, i want sleep and im going sleep now :)

Later

Virtual Fighter
04-19-2005, 03:14 PM
The Prince is a book about a monarch, this monarch is Machiaveli, Nicocolo Machiaveli a war monarch.

No, the book is a handbook about how to rule. It's not a biography, or how Michialveli lived, or even mentioning the false death of him.

-He have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is dead 7 days after: You undertand.
7 8 9 10 11 12 13. 7 days where is the prob :sleeping:

7 + 7 = 14. The first day isnt counted, because if you count it, it'd be saying "he was shot on the 7th, he died 7 day later"

"oh, the 14?" (IE: 7+7=14)

"no, the 13"

gieandfer
04-19-2005, 03:25 PM
Look these Pics:
Before his death, at MGM the night of his death.

It was a new medal, before this his medal was the deathRow record's medal.
After his death
WTF he wore an other medal !!!! It wasnt the Deathrow medal.


Okay, there are many different ways to tackle that. I'll go through each one.

1) Okay, we don't even know if that's in context. I can say:

http://www.monadology.net/aboutme/images/dan/tupac.jpg

This picture was taken the day of tupac's death.

http://www.klangundkleid.ch/img/plakate/musik/432540_Tupac-And-SnoopDoggyDog-DressedInSuits.jpg

Now he's in a suit! It doesn't make sense! That proves he's alive!

Yeah, I agree, but does the prove he's alive? No, it proves there is ambiguity in your pictures and there was a miscommunication.

We don't even know if that picture WAS taken on the day of his death, if it was the medal in question, if it has been photoshopped or those photos have been planted!

Point of story, they don't make sense.


2) The website you got them from even AGREE that he's dead.

You got them from pacside.com, right?
Well check this out:
http://www.pacside.com/pacside....t=Tupac (http://www.pacside.com/pacsideen/index.php?page=view&txt=His%20last%20hours&cat=Tupac)

Why would they be arguing for something they don't believe in? That doesn't make sense, and you're probably posting pictures out of context.

3) Third, he could have had those necklasses in his pocket or even in the car, or even in the general vacinity. They might actually have been Suge knight's!

Now lets go:
-After his death The title of his album was MAKAVELI
Tupac was a fan of Machiaveli, he have read his book a lots of time (he have admited this)
Nicccolo Machiaveli have write a lots of Book: "The Prince" is THE book with Machiaveli's story. Tupac have read this book in Prison and at home. When he is dead the police had found this book.

WRONG.

"The Prince" is NOT about Machiaveli's life, it was about how to rule as a monarch. The book says you should rule without religion, without mercey and without honor. I know this becuase I actually read this book just recently.

Now, if Tupac liked Machiaveli or not doesn't matter. Personally, I like malcolm X. It doesn't mean I'm gonna be shot while delivering a speech. I also like Abreham Lincoln, it doesn't mean I'm gonna become president.

Second, death row created this Makaveli name becuase they WANTED TO SELL RECORDS! They needed a hook, something interesting to sell "Don killumati", becuase the music itself was so poopty.

Look, even AMG agrees:

"Everything about The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory smacks of exploitation. Released only eight weeks after Tupac Shakur died from gunshot wounds, Death Row released this posthumous album under the name of Makaveli, a pseudonym derived from the Italian politician Niccolo Machiavelli, who faked his own death and reappeared seven days later to take revenge on his enemies. Naturally, the appearance of Don Killuminati so shortly after Tupac's death led many conspiracy theorists to surmise the rapper was still alive, but it was all part of a calculated marketing strategy by Death Row -- the label needed something to sustain interest in the album, since the music here is so shoddy."

-Why the polive havent tried to catch the ppl who have shoot Tupac and Suge ?? Just try to steal something in a casino, the police will pursage you.

That's because there are multiple reports of police curruption, linking with gangmembers and even conspiring against tupac with those who wanted to harm him.

How come they havn't found Martain Luther King's murderers? Does that mean HE'S still alive?

-Tupac's Death Date: Vendredi 13 (September 96) ..... Just Strange

The 13th? I thought it was the 14th. You even said so yourself:

"
Tupac have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is fallen in a coma, and he is dead 7 day after."

So which is it, the 14th or 13th?

-Now Read this an open your Eyes !!!!
MAKAVEKI, just forget the K: MA AVELI. Oki Now find with your head: MA KAVELI ==> AM ALIVE (its strange here too)

There is NO connection with makaveli and "I am alive". That's just retarded, and ofcourse the original Michaiveli didn't plan this, so it's not true.


- MAKAVELI Album:

That album sucked. 99.9% of it was just death row hype, production and rumors to carry this album to big places when it's a bunch of fat air.

==>Song 5: Blasphemy. heard this music.

Yeah, I heard it. What is it about? Jesus, religion, god, blasphemy.

What does that mean? There's gonna be a whole mess load of death in it.

Jimi Hendrex sang about death, does that mean he's still alive?


==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ????"

That's such a lie. He doesn't even say that! Here are the lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/tupac-shakur/white-mans-world.html

He doesn't say that or anything CLOSE to that.

-Toss it up the clip: you can see Tupac with new shoes: Penny Hardaway. These shoes was sold after his death.

I looked for that song, for that video, for those shoes, for some images.

I found nothing.

Now, unless you give us those pictures of those shoes (and don't forget to prove he took out that money), you can't use that argument.

I can CLAIM tupac went to the moon, but unless I prove it, it's a lie.

:buttrock: Tupac is Alive.

No, he's dead. Quit being a conspirecy theorist and face the damn facts.

I can claim John Lennon is alive, but unless I have him here, right now, it's a lie.

---------------------


another thing my brother himself even figured out. in the beggining of "god bless the dead" tupac clearly says "Rest In Peace To The Muthfkin Biggie Smalls" how the flip would he knowbiggies dead if he died before him? this song was released when him an biggie were still friends. maybe tupac is dead. or maybe he jus planned out his death an jus left out clues


-_-

Biggie and Tupac hated each other. They didn't like each other and were constantly saying they would kill each other. If you say "Rest in peace, tupac" when tupac isn't dead yet, you are basically giving a death threat.

If tupac said "Rest in peace, the pope" Does that mean tupac is still alive? Or does it just mean he's saying things because he hates the pope, as we can see in lyrics like "White man's world"?

He's dead, dude. Face it.
maybe but at least witnesses were there to see martin luther kings shot.


and also read again. TUPAC RECORDED THAT SONG WHEN BIGGIE AND HIMSELF WERE STILL FRIENDS.

Virtual Fighter
04-19-2005, 04:21 PM
maybe but at least witnesses were there to see martin luther kings shot.

Alot of people also saw tupac's murder. The first is also a suspect, Suge Knight.

Many, many others are now in jail ro dead.

For example:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....49.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1996/nov/13/505285049.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....31.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1996/nov/14/505289031.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....23.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1997/feb/28/505641623.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....51.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1997/feb/28/505643351.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....59.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1997/mar/05/505660059.html)


Oh, and that autopsy picture was real, they even made an entire book denfinding it:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....48.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1997/sep/09/506274248.html)

He's dead, people saw him, people know it.

and also read again. TUPAC RECORDED THAT SONG WHEN BIGGIE AND HIMSELF WERE STILL FRIENDS.

Okay, first you were saying he recorded it after he supposedly faked his own death, now you're saying he recorded it before he died, and even before he hated biggie.

Which is it, after tupac and even biggie supposedly died, or when he was still alive?

Becuase if he recorded it when he was still alive, there is nothing to converse here.

And, let me desypher those lyrics myself, because I could not find that song on any of his records. Post the lyrics, please.

trunks_1242
04-19-2005, 06:15 PM
id rather see Martin Luther King Jr. fake to be alive then tupac....

gieandfer
04-19-2005, 09:14 PM
maybe but at least witnesses were there to see martin luther kings shot.

Alot of people also saw tupac's murder. The first is also a suspect, Suge Knight.

Many, many others are now in jail ro dead.

For example:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....49.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1996/nov/13/505285049.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....31.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1996/nov/14/505289031.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....23.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1997/feb/28/505641623.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....51.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1997/feb/28/505643351.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....59.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1997/mar/05/505660059.html)


Oh, and that autopsy picture was real, they even made an entire book denfinding it:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin....48.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/special/1997/sep/09/506274248.html)

He's dead, people saw him, people know it.

and also read again. TUPAC RECORDED THAT SONG WHEN BIGGIE AND HIMSELF WERE STILL FRIENDS.

Okay, first you were saying he recorded it after he supposedly faked his own death, now you're saying he recorded it before he died, and even before he hated biggie.

Which is it, after tupac and even biggie supposedly died, or when he was still alive?

Becuase if he recorded it when he was still alive, there is nothing to converse here.

And, let me desypher those lyrics myself, because I could not find that song on any of his records. Post the lyrics, please.
READ IT I SAID HE RECORDED IT WHEN THEY WERE FRIENDS. NOTHING IN THERE SAYS WHAT U SAID. HERE ARE THE LYRICS:GOD BLESS THE DEAD LYRICS (http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/God-Bless-The-Dead-lyrics-2Pac/B705514963D777E548256C3200081CAD)

Virtual Fighter
04-19-2005, 09:19 PM
Check it out:

November 27, 1998 - God Bless the Dead explanation

We have received alot of emails trying to explain this song, where at the beginning 2Pac very clearly says Rest in peace to my motherfliper Bigge Smalls, that's right boy, it's going on right here, thuglife, god bless the dead. Biggie died AFTER 2Pac so how did he know?

Well according to our source, he thinks this song was made when Stretch/2Pac/Biggie were all still friends (before pac got shot up in NY). This song, he claims, was made to promote Biggie's album 'READY 2 DIE' - in that album biggie pretends to have died, etc.

gieandfer
04-19-2005, 09:37 PM
do u always have to backfire me when im so close to proving it.

anyways 30% of me know tupacs dead. im jus so confident. anyways ive been knowing he was dead since his partner from the outlaw thing i cant spell it but he knew who killed him, and was shot before he could tell. i jus want yall to know if they find tupac, u know who always stuck to it. the other 70% of me



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gieandfer
04-19-2005, 10:11 PM
this my homeboy right here. he know what he doin. well im out for tonight .peace. PROOF (http://members.aol.com/subseven/tupac.html)

P.S u mightve been there but o well. ive known bout it for five years an finally found the site again. go there

RepliForce
04-20-2005, 03:56 AM
Nice :)

Oki, i will say he isnt dead 7 day after but he have survived 7 days: Are you ok now ??

7 8 9 10 11 12 13 = 7 days and finaly he is dead the 13.

Virtual Fighter
04-20-2005, 07:13 AM
The first 7 doesn't coiunt. Becuase if he was shot the 7th, and the 8th, he wouldn't have died two days later, it would be the next day.

7 + 2 (days later) = 9.

the first 7 doesn't count, so it is he died 6 days later, on the 13.

RepliForce
04-20-2005, 07:33 AM
Lol

He have stay alive 7 days, 6 days its same, the more importante is that:
-He have been shoted the 7th spetember 1996
-He is dead the 13th friday.

Virtual Fighter
04-20-2005, 08:21 AM
okay, and why is that important?

Oh yeah, it's not.

MasterX05
04-20-2005, 05:28 PM
ok maybe this would help out

http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/alive.html

Virtual Fighter
04-20-2005, 05:47 PM
I countered all of those stupid reasons, but If you want I can go over each one.

floaterz
04-20-2005, 06:37 PM
on the page itself it sais that 2pac is dead
april fools
and the link before it was banned was www.cnnonline.com and the links did work but they linked back to the original cnn website,,,

asshole
04-20-2005, 09:11 PM
TuPac = dizzzzead, ya'll!

KensDestruction
04-20-2005, 09:20 PM
ok maybe this would help out

http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/alive.html
u go tell em

Virtual Fighter
04-20-2005, 09:24 PM
You turd, I just finished proving everything they said in that page (can't come up with your own arguments, I see) WRONG.

gieandfer
04-21-2005, 03:05 PM
i got an idea. y dont u go with him bein dead well say hes alive. that way everyones happy

mastergrim8
04-21-2005, 03:16 PM
hey chill

~$REDMAN$~
04-21-2005, 11:05 PM
damn man just give it up. tupacs dead. he's in heaven(or hell), his corpse is gone, there aint nothing you can do about it. he's dead which is something we all would like to just roll over and do sometimes.

trunks_1242
04-22-2005, 05:50 AM
is it just me or does snoop dog like to rap with bald ppl?

Virtual Fighter
04-22-2005, 07:19 AM
Yes. Yes he does.

God observation.

Technique
04-22-2005, 07:56 AM
I can end this debate right now.............

There was a tupac sighting not too long ago. This is the image that was produced by the shocked bystandard:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/Christian227/NH4-5th_floor-Gangsta.jpg


Intense, isn't it? He hasn't changed a bit....

trunks_1242
04-22-2005, 10:19 AM
virtual u mean good right? btw ppl......biggie is dead 2...for all we know he could of killed him and hit em up was his last video before his death and could of effected puff and biggie :confused:

gieandfer
04-22-2005, 07:51 PM
no one talkin bout biggie

trunks_1242
04-22-2005, 08:10 PM
wow ppl make it seem like he was never alive.....ah man I saw the pic of tupacs dead body in black in white then on accident I clicked color version and saw it...nasty stuff man hes dead look for your self just go to google.com type tupacs dead body then scroll down and click on color version when your on the site and youll agree hes dead once you see this no is no doubting hes dead....im sorry man well not really

gieandfer
04-22-2005, 08:15 PM
when will u understand. that could be a FAKE.

AnimeGirl4evr
04-22-2005, 08:34 PM
Tupac Is Dead.

Virtual Fighter
04-22-2005, 08:38 PM
when will u understand. that could be a FAKE.
and every picture, rumor and unproven fact you've stated can very well (and probably is) fake or wrong, but you don't see us using that old argument.

gieandfer
04-22-2005, 08:42 PM
thats what im sayin. u jus say hes dead, ima say hes alive.

RepliForce
04-23-2005, 03:30 AM
Yea i say he is alive too. We have a lots of proof.

Dark_Paladin_X
04-23-2005, 04:42 AM
I believe he's stil alive. there was just too much suspicion aroun his time of death. so i think something's up

trunks_1242
04-23-2005, 06:47 AM
.....ok we all know tupac and his mom were real close and so do you think that she acually cried all those tears for nothin and the fact in one of his songs he said ill never make you cry again momma if he were alive his mom would be the first to know....if he still is alive then so is biggie smalls :sarcasm:

this is the site tupacs dead body (http://www.tupacnet.org/theories/autopsy.htm) if you dont believe me look at the color version



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gieandfer
04-23-2005, 09:57 AM
.....ok we all know tupac and his mom were real close and so do you think that she acually cried all those tears for nothin and the fact in one of his songs he said ill never make you cry again momma if he were alive his mom would be the first to know....if he still is alive then so is biggie smalls :sarcasm:

this is the site tupacs dead body (http://www.tupacnet.org/theories/autopsy.htm) if you dont believe me look at the color version
who knows? maybe TUPAckILLED BIGGIE.


and if you say hes dead, y not post some proof that hes dead. instead of ur opinion, give me pics of his dead body or anything else. and dont give me that autopsy poop. we dont know if thats fake. until u give proof wih tupacs dead, rotting body then we can say hes dead. un til then its undecided



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Virtual Fighter
04-23-2005, 03:38 PM
Yea i say he is alive too. We have a lots of proof.

No, you have evidence, rumors and lies. Most of the things you've posted, if not all have a logical exlination.

The only PROOF your side can have is Tupac, which you don't.


who knows? maybe TUPAckILLED BIGGIE.

They found biggie's killer, they just havn't done anything about him.
http://thunder_1st.tripod.com/Keep_It_REAL/BigKiller.htm

and if you say hes dead, y not post some proof that hes dead. instead of ur opinion, give me pics of his dead body or anything else.

How about the fact that he was shot multiple times, and has been shot before? It's not like he was the most respected person on the planet.

How about the fact that tupac's very own MOTHER says he's dead?

How about the fact that any respecable publication, newspaper or TV show says he's dead?

The fact they have his freakin DEATH CERTIFICATE?

"Death certificate details
In February 1997, SUN reporter Cathy Scott went to the Clark County Office of Vital Statistics and viewed Tupac Shakur's death certificate. The only copy released was to his mother, Afeni Shakur. The original is on file with the county.

It's against Nevada Revised Statute to forge or sign a public document, including death certificates. The death certificate acts as the official notice of death. It includes the following:

* Tupac Amaru Shakur was pronounced dead by Dr. Lovett at 4:03 p.m. on Friday, Sept. 13, 1996, at University Medical Center's Intensive Care Unit.

* The one-page death certificate was filed with Clark County's vital records section by County Coroner Ron Flud on Sept. 18, 1996. Dr. Ed Brown with Coroner's office signed the certificate.

* His mother, Afeni Shakur, made a positive identification of his body at 5 p.m. at the hospital. His body was then taken by Davis Mortuary to the morgue, three blocks away. An autopsy was performed and the official cause of death was respiratory failure and cardiopulmonary arrest in connection with multiple gunshot wounds.

* Shakur's occupation was listed as "rap singer" and the company he worked for was shown as "Euphanasia" in Los Angeles, Calif.

* A county seal was stamped on the certificate, making it an official document."

http://www.lasvegassun.com/dossier/events/shakur/certificate.html

I don't need to prove he's dead, because the majority of people believe he is dead. YOU have to prove he's alive, which you havn't done.

and dont give me that autopsy poop. we dont know if thats fake. until u give proof wih tupacs dead, rotting body then we can say hes dead. un til then its undecided

No, until then he's dead. The burden of proof is on YOU! The state has already decided he's dead as a doorknob, and it's up to YOU to prove us wrong.

And that autopsy picture might be fake, but so can anything YOU post.

The concensus is that he's dead. It's up to YOU to prove us wrong, not us to proce us right.

joejoegun
04-23-2005, 04:26 PM
I put together some suspicious facts about Tupac's death. Check them out...
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There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the exectutive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with Suge Knight.

Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta.

The shooting gave him respect because everyone bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

There are no suspects for the shooting.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight?

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly creamated the day after he "died"? And since when do they creamate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autospy.

The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs.

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coinsidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"?

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry), . In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)?

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "ni**as Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that ni**a's gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupacknows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf**kin menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had bi**h a*s ni**as on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan s**t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified. This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli.

The only witness to the shooting was found shot to death in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ. Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him.

Doesn't all this sound a bit to ridiculous, although there is no specific fact that makes my theory valid, there is nothing the obviously disproves it, but it all adds up to something, there must be something funny going on. Don't you think?

Although this doesn't provide any evidence about Tupac's death, it is interesting. If you rearrange the letters of "makaveli", you get "mak alive", or make alive. Remember how Tupac spelled Machiavelli as Makaveli? Well, he is probably spelling Calumnate as Killuminati. Calumnate means to make false or slanderous statements.

In his recent new album titled "2pac Greatest Hits" on one of the tracks he said "Rest in peace Biggie Smalls", wasn't these tracks recorded before the death of the Notorious B.I.G?

Virtual Fighter
04-23-2005, 06:34 PM
[color=#B3AF63]I put together some suspicious facts about Tupac's death. Check them out...
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First, you didn

gieandfer
04-23-2005, 06:37 PM
I put together some suspicious facts about Tupac's death. Check them out...
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There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the exectutive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with Suge Knight.

Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta.

The shooting gave him respect because everyone bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

There are no suspects for the shooting.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight?

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly creamated the day after he "died"? And since when do they creamate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autospy.

The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs.

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coinsidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"?

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry), . In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)?

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "ni**as Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that ni**a's gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupacknows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf**kin menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had bi**h a*s ni**as on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan s**t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified. This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli.

The only witness to the shooting was found shot to death in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ. Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him.

Doesn't all this sound a bit to ridiculous, although there is no specific fact that makes my theory valid, there is nothing the obviously disproves it, but it all adds up to something, there must be something funny going on. Don't you think?

Although this doesn't provide any evidence about Tupac's death, it is interesting. If you rearrange the letters of "makaveli", you get "mak alive", or make alive. Remember how Tupac spelled Machiavelli as Makaveli? Well, he is probably spelling Calumnate as Killuminati. Calumnate means to make false or slanderous statements.

In his recent new album titled "2pac Greatest Hits" on one of the tracks he said "Rest in peace Biggie Smalls", wasn't these tracks recorded before the death of the Notorious B.I.G?
ur coping the site i posted for yall to look
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virtual. thats no convincing proof. would the poilce believe it if yougave it to them?

gieandfer
04-23-2005, 06:39 PM
[color=#000F22][quote]They never released a photo of the pope when he was in the hospital, does that mean HE

Virtual Fighter
04-23-2005, 07:11 PM
Again, the burden of proof is on YOU. You're supposed to prove to ME he's alive, i'm supposed to defend the concensus. If you can't prove to Me and prove to the world he's alive, then the concensus stands and it rests that he's dead.

gieandfer
04-23-2005, 07:17 PM
Again, the burden of proof is on YOU. You're supposed to prove to ME he's alive, i'm supposed to defend the concensus. If you can't prove to Me and prove to the world he's alive, then the concensus stands and it rests that he's dead.
well why do I have to prove my opinon?why cant U prove if hes dead? im tired of givin an givin an nothin from u. so go. im listinin

Virtual Fighter
04-23-2005, 07:23 PM
Becuase it's the concensus he's dead. Every news report, magazine, reviewer or chronical who has any source of respectabilty has said he's dead. He has a death certficate, he was prounced dead in newspapers and in time magazine.

The world thinks he's dead.

Why would I prove something we already know? It's up to you to prove the unpopular theory, which is he's alive.

You havn't done that. Unless my oppinion is the non-concenssus, I don't have to prove anything.

We know he's dead, you want to prove he's alive, be my guest. It's my job to DISPROVE YOU, not to prove myself.

KensDestruction
04-23-2005, 07:23 PM
tupac is not deid he fake his death

gieandfer
04-23-2005, 07:53 PM
Becuase it's the concensus he's dead. Every news report, magazine, reviewer or chronical who has any source of respectabilty has said he's dead. He has a death certficate, he was prounced dead in newspapers and in time magazine.

The world thinks he's dead.

Why would I prove something we already know? It's up to you to prove the unpopular theory, which is he's alive.

You havn't done that. Unless my oppinion is the non-concenssus, I don't have to prove anything.

We know he's dead, you want to prove he's alive, be my guest. It's my job to DISPROVE YOU, not to prove myself.
u sayin i got no respect for tupac? i do have respect hes jus alive.
P.S te death certifacate is fake. unless u bring the creator an a film of him creating it with tupac rottened skeleton then hes dead

Virtual Fighter
04-23-2005, 10:33 PM
Why would I need that?

With that logic, does that mean George washignton is still alive, since he doesn't have a video of the person filling out the death certificate? A death certificate is a federal form, and falsifying one is illegal. It is NOT fake.

gieandfer
04-23-2005, 10:48 PM
Why would I need that?

With that logic, does that mean George washignton is still alive, since he doesn't have a video of the person filling out the death certificate? A death certificate is a federal form, and falsifying one is illegal. It is NOT fake.
FOO! STOP TALKIN ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S DEATHS!!!GEORGE WASHINGTON DIED 500,000 YEARS AGO!!! MARTIN LUTHER KING IS DEAD!!!!! THE POPE DIED TWO WEEKS AGO!!!
WERE TALKIN ABOUT TUPAC NOT GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!!

Virtual Fighter
04-23-2005, 11:05 PM
But yet we're putting special cercumstances on tupac, why?

Since when do we need video of a dead body to show somoene's dead?

gieandfer
04-23-2005, 11:07 PM
show a pic of tupacs rotted corpse an then we can say hes dead.

Virtual Fighter
04-23-2005, 11:13 PM
Show a picture of him alive and we'll say he's alive.

The concensus is that he's dead, it's not up to me to prove that. It's up to you to prove otherwise.

gieandfer
04-23-2005, 11:19 PM
Show a picture of him alive and we'll say he's alive.

The concensus is that he's dead, it's not up to me to prove that. It's up to you to prove otherwise.
how do u know thats the popular decision? how do u not know its hes alive?

Dark_Paladin_X
04-24-2005, 12:50 AM
Show a picture of him alive and we'll say he's alive.

The concensus is that he's dead, it's not up to me to prove that. It's up to you to prove otherwise.
if we were to do that, we still wouldn't have hard proof. Think about, with all the 2pac lovers out there, there ppl who RESEMBLE him and will pose as him just to cause attraction.

Think about it.

Jin^Kazama
04-24-2005, 05:18 AM
The guy past away..... at least close this topic people do stupid thing's making fake site's get over it

04-24-2005, 05:21 AM
nah i shot him i let him know east side runs this biitch :cool:

MasterX05
04-24-2005, 08:16 AM
plz ppl I know this has gone on for quite some time. And another can u all reframe from trying to post the dead pic of tupac. VF has carried a amazing agurement and I have come to the conclusion that I had before. Tupac is in fact dead! And my girl and her friend now own me a dinner at Applebee's! So haha I win Case close!