Gta rasicm claims - Haitians not too happy...

[SonicDX]

The Haitian community has taken action against rockstar for "encouraging racial hatred against Haitians " The line was " Kill all the Haitians " Personally, i dont think its rascits because it tells you what to do in the game, not real life. Whats you opinon. GTA: Rascists or not rascists?

[SuperSonicX]

Well im thinking rockstar thinks it is cuz they were apologizing about it..yea its only a game but sometimes it goes 2 far...ima say non rascists..im pretty sure they didnt mean 2 offend the haitian people.

[SonicDX]

Yeah, i mean its only an objective in something thats not even real!

[SuperSonicX]

True..but i also think they could have sed it differently and didnt have 2 offend anybody.. ???

[SonicDX]

how could it have been said differently ' Please Defeat the Bad Haitians ' That would be stupid

[SuperSonicX]

Meh theres always a way..lol

[marvel911]

I think people who take something they heard or saw from a game too seriously, are idiots..

[SuperSonicX]

Very true marve|..

[darkmasterX]

Matter a fact i am Haitian i did not take i too seriously but it did kinda ofend me cuz some people like to say you look like that guy of vice city and i laugh but its ight though its not really serious its that people take things to the head and start suing and stuff

[Bubble1]

i am Haitian
thats cool. i have 1 thing to say to all the haitians and other people who are offened by the "racim"
<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>GET OVER IT!</span> its only a game.

[Zpower]

Actually they have a case belive it or not. It was racial to make a remark like that well VERY RACIAL. Video Games, Movies, Television-Shows, Radio-Broadcastings. All play a major role in society and should respect their "POWER" that they have. There is a limit for how far you can go with racism. It caused alot of problems before well not alot A WORLDWIDE problem before. So people are VERY sensitive to the racism issue. They learnt from the past that if not carefull it can get out of hand without even knowing it. I know some people could careless. I know some here are also like my friend Dave. Who always tells me,"Im not racist I hate everyone equally." Well if you are like my friend Dave then you're hopelessly lost in a void of hatred. Which only resulting path is a completely depressing and miserable life.
Also I do think that everyone is given a right to FREE SPEECH and should be able to express their opinions. One reason why the KKK and other HATE Organizations in America havent been shut down by the Goverment of the USA. They have the right to express their opinions and ONLY THAT. Well I got off topic a little but really to be racist in any form or fashion is not only degrading yourself but being ignorant to the fact that. EVERYONE is created equal and the right to freedom from pursecution and the right to pursue happiness.
In closing yes video games do cross the lines sometimes not only in racism but other unjust manners aswell. Yes I agree with some here its just a GAME, yes its just FBF/3D animation which is coded to sync to your button-pressing commands in binary code passed through chips by electricity ect...BUT when thousands of people play these games and get so involved in the story. Also that most buyers are "kids" who are just learning how to behave in a mature way isnt good. Because if just ONE KID became racist towards Haitians it would truely be a sad day for the gaming community in a hold. Like I express on this forum and other forums and in my life and whereever Im at. Everyone should be treated with absolute dignity and respect unless proven by the ACTIONS of that individual otherwise.



Edited By Zpower on Jan. 07 2004 at 21:00

[AfterMath]

ima go with non racist...if they really ment it they would say it all through the game.

[ledmonkey]

Yea....Well since there is still a lot of racists out there and GTA is more of a reality crime game......

But for all the ppl saying just get over it.......I think your wrong...they have a right to be disturbed.......That problably hurt some people...

[Bubble1]

Actually they have a case belive it or not. It was racial to make a remark like that well VERY RACIAL. Video Games, Movies, Television-Shows, Radio-Broadcastings. All play a major role in society and should respect their "POWER" that they have. There is a limit for how far you can go with racism. It caused alot of problems before well not alot A WORLDWIDE problem before. So people are VERY sensitive to the racism issue. They learnt fromt the past that if not carefull it can get out of hand without even knowing it. I know some people could careless. I know some here are also like my friend Dave. Who always tells me,"Im not racist I hate everyone equally." Well if you are like my friend Dave then you're hopelessly lost in a void of hatred. Which only resulting path is completely depressing and miserable life.
Also I do think that everyone is givin a right to FREE SPEECH and should be able to express their opinions. One reason why the KKK and other HATE Organizations in America havent been shut down by the Goverment of the USA. They have the right to express their opinions and ONLY THAT. Well I got off topic a little but really to be racist in any form or fashion is not only degrading yourself but being ignorant to the fact that. EVERYONE is created equal and the right to freedom from pursecution and the right to pursue happiness.
In closing yes video games do cross the lines sometimes not only in racism but other unjust manners aswell. Yes I agree with some here its just a GAME, yes its just FBF/3D animation which is coded to sync to your button-pressing commands in binary code passed through chips by electricity ect...BUT when thousands of people play these games and get so involved in the story. Also that most buyers are "kids" who are just learning how to behave in a mature way isnt good. Because if just ONE KID became racist towards Haitians it would truely be a sad day for the gaming community in a hold. Like I express on this forum and other forums and in my life and whereever Im at. Everyone should be treated with absolute dignity and respect unless proven by the ACTIONS of that individual otherwise.
yes that is true...you have a point. hmm... recondiering all off the facts.

Conclusion: video games should watch the racism level. maybe they could have substituted a fake clan for it?that my thoughts on the subject.

[abc345]

Well her recently around were i live there was a boy who took a gun and shoot his gf for somthing or another the boy was only 12 years old a lawyer walked into the house hold and picked up GTA vice. and told his mother he was being brain washed by this game (Told to do it) well his mother filed a law suit agenst rockstar but it never made it to trial in my opinion

When pepole take things to far it isent because of a game its because of the mettal state thay are in and only look for something to blame that prob. on

[ledmonkey]

Well her recently around were i live there was a boy who took a gun and shoot his gf for somthing or another the boy was only 12 years old a lawyer walked into the house hold and picked up GTA vice. and told his mother he was being brain washed by this game (Told to do it) well his mother filed a law suit agenst rockstar but it never made it to trial in my opinion

When pepole take things to far it isent because of a game its because of the mettal state thay are in and only look for something to blame that prob. on
Yes..there was another case.....where a 13? year old had taken a shotgun and shot a moving car.....killing the driver..... He blamed It on GTA......I think people know what they are doing though so I don't think it is fair to blame video games....but its a little disturbing how we enjoy that stuff...

[Zpower]

Actually this thread is about ABSOLUTE RACISM IN VIDEO-GAMES. Its not about kids, teenagers, adults ect. Blamming video-games on THEIR ACTIONS. If you want to make a thread about that topic then fine. I have only one word to answer as a reply to a thread like that. NONSENSE, because how can you blame a GAME only designed for YOUR ENTERTAINMENT for crimes that you commit. This thread is about how the GAME-DEVELOPERS of GTA put RACIST REMARKS in their game. Which if by chance tarnished a incomplete child's mind full of racist thoughts. Now I know someone here well if I were you I would say,"Well ok Zpower, you said that its insane that Video-Games can make you commit crimes. So why isnt it insane that Video-Games could teach and reward hatred to a race of people." Well if you are thinking that then keep reading.
You see Video-Games ect... can teach hatred to a child at best maybe even teenagers, possibly adults. Because any form of communication which can produce visual, audio. Can teach an idea whatever that may be in this case hatred towards Haitians. Now what Video-Games and other forms of entertainment cannot do is be responsible for CRIMES that people commit. In this case yes they CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TEACHING AN IDEA. Like I said before people are intittled to their opinions and thoughts. So if a Video-Game taught hatred to kids for Haitians. Then yes Video-Games could be held responsible for TEACHING HATE. Witch resulting in termination of GTA series and Rockstar Corperation if not apologizing to the Haitians and everyone eles. Im not shure if such a drastic measure as that will be taken. I just hope Rockstar learns from this and doesnt cross the lines of ENTERTAINMENT anymore. For example Drugs no matter how much you may like taking drugs to make you "feel" good. It isnt right and HARMS your body. In this case your mind.

[Orlando0]

Yes, I believe that goes on the racist side especially after reading all Z-power said.

As for the violence:
Goddamn it. Can't they see the M in the box? People should be told on this. Parents should be told about the ESRB system. And they shouldn't sell that stuff to children under 17! Really. Practically make a law about that(Maybe that's too harsh...)

I also heard they nearly banned Video games cause of GTA.

[SSJKarma]

haitien should really look it the other way, true that it is a racist game if you look at it the way it is... but think of it, if they had ever played it entirely they would noticve that all people, AMERICAN CUBAN HAITIEN and basically everyone in their is being racist towards each others.

fact is... its a crime game, what else would have you wanted rockstar game to do ?
haitien int hat game kills cuban not because they are cuban, but because they are taking up the place as dealers !
same goes for cubans in this game, they are killing haitiens because they are talking up the place as dealers !

in all way, i don't say they were wrong to brag about the racism in that game, but if they had played it entirely and seen it the way it was meant to be seen, they wouldn't be bragging that much either !

conclusion: yeah its a pretty much racist games, but in all terms, its
1 - a game
2 - a crime game
3 - not about haitien at all, more then them are being mocked about !
4 - they aren't hated because they are haitiens, they are hated because the haitien clan takes up the cuban territories !

so i still don't know why they would brag about it that much.
without this kind of thing, this game wouldn't be as fun as it is !

[SonicDX]

but they actually tried to stop sales of Vice City and that is taking it too far!

[asshole]

NOT RACIST!
They have some sort of thing against EVERYONE in that game, and it's uspPosed ta be entertaining, NOT Racist!

[Zpower]

When games have to result to racism to sell its a sad day in the gaming community. If this behavior continues Im shure some action will take place. GTA series is I have to admit a great seller. BUT like I stated before drugs are a GREAT seller too. All Im saying is that when you know something isnt right and when you know it MAY offend an ENTIRE race of people. Then some measure to be taken to avoid it. You got to have common sense. In closing no matter how you look at this. It all comes down to TREATING OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED. Its all a matter of showing respect which is the BASE for making a better world.

[MasterX05]

True Crimes of L.A is too. I found that if youfrisk a person or stop them in their car and search them, why is it always the black person to have drug's on them? ???

[SonicDX]

no it isnt

[VX_Unicorn]

I would say non racism..............!?!

[LEESTAR77]

WHAT???!!! that ain't cool! did hitler play risk in high school and a Jew and Gypsy played and whipped him and all of a sudden he wanted to kill them all? IT'S INSANE LOGIC!!!(sorry if I offended anyone :( ) I don't think they get it...why did a 12 year old guy shot his gf? becuase of a game?
or becuase he went insane after she broke up with him?(the ignorant fool) yeah it's not blamed on simple facts...just something they can sue for money and save the child(brainwashing? yeah right!)from jail....if you ask me...they are going too far(again sorry if I offended anyone)

[.:GreenLantern:.]

It does seem kinda racist but in GTA the haitians are a gang (they don't seem to have a name in the game so there just called the haitians) and what you have to do in some of the missions in the game are kill all of a certain gang

example:
kill all the triads

And i think in some of the missions you work for the haitians



Edited By .:GreenLantern:. on Jan. 13 2004 at 21:00

[SSJKarma]

again, they are saying this because they didn't get to the bottom line of the game itself !

they are bragging about how racist it is... that they have missions that say kill all the haitiens...

but seriously, if you were a drug dealer a big one, and that haitiens would come and deal their stuff on your side of the city, wouldn't you want them all dead ?

thought so, so wehy are they bragging, for nothing... the game isn't focused ont hem, there is cuban and lots of other big gangs int here, they all have to kill each others. so where is the haitiens targetted personnally in there ?

so again, this is just stupid of them to do that kind of thing without getting to the bottom line of it !

[CyRuS OnEr]

I think people who take something they heard or saw from a game too seriously, are idiots..
yea...
but u're suppse to kill cubians 2..
rockstar trying to make fun..
u would like if youonly in the game just got in cars and drove around ....
that just dumb
:D :D :D
NOT RACIST!



Edited By CyRuS OnEr on Feb. 28 2004 at 09:09

[Angel-Eyes]

its just a bunch of retards looking for somthing contraversial in a game so they can sue and get a bunch of money.(they probably got that idea from one of the commercials in gta3) :D

[CyRuS OnEr]

its just a bunch of retards looking for somthing contraversial in a game so they can sue and get a bunch of money.(they probably got that idea from one of the commercials in gta3) :D
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: .....
lololol
prolly 1-800-LAWYERS
"we fight for u until justice is served"
My Ass :laugh:

[Mr. Big]

its the cubans vs the haitians, not the italians or sum1 else. besides, its a game!

damn, whats wrong with these pple?

[CyRuS OnEr]

its the cubans vs the haitians, not the italians or sum1 else. besides, its a game!

damn, whats wrong with these pple?
i dunno :laugh: :laugh:

[Venture]

??? Umm......hah....i was just playing Vice City....again...and i was doing the mission where you gotta kill the haintians and help out the cubans....i dont think they mean it in a way that should offend the ppl of that community.....and to solve the matter.....Rockstar should just apologise....

[HELLOTHERE]

There only one answer! just dont play the game then. no reason trying to get people fired from their job. plus the get payed to make the game. not their descision.

[machine1]

its kinda stupid that anyone would even care. it's just a dam videogame

[akuma_forever]

I dont really think it is racism, but more like hate or something.

[CyRuS OnEr]

i am Haitian
thats cool. i have 1 thing to say to all the haitians and other people who are offened by the "racim"
<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>GET OVER IT!</span> its only a game.
yo 4 real man

[CyRuS OnEr]

??? Umm......hah....i was just playing Vice City....again...and i was doing the mission where you gotta kill the haintians and help out the cubans....i dont think they mean it in a way that should offend the ppl of that community.....and to solve the matter.....Rockstar should just apologise....
??? y??
it only a dam game it isnt life threating yo...

[Ry]

i am Haitian
thats cool. i have 1 thing to say to all the haitians and other people who are offened by the "racim"
<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>GET OVER IT!</span> its only a game.
HEY I AM HATIAN TO AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS IM PROUND :D

[SSJKarma]

fact is...

its no RACISM at all, the situation at hand is this one int he game...
The cubans had their territory covered. but then the haitiens came in and took a part of that territory to themselves. so basically its just two gang that beats each other up for terrotory dominance !

where is the RACISM in there ?
i mean, what would they do if we CANADIAN would take over their country... wouldn't they be mad at us and want to kill us all ?
if so, would this situation be RACISM ?

answer is no, their is no racism in there because the situation the missions gives it in... is that the cubans wants the haitien out of ther territory because they want it for themselves, it has nothing to do with the fact that they are haitiens, if it were americans in there it would have been the same !

so this is useless and pure non-sens !
simply stupid !

[CyRuS OnEr]

fact is...

its no RACISM at all, the situation at hand is this one int he game...
The cubans had their territory covered. but then the haitiens came in and took a part of that territory to themselves. so basically its just two gang that beats each other up for terrotory dominance !

where is the RACISM in there ?
i mean, what would they do if we CANADIAN would take over their country... wouldn't they be mad at us and want to kill us all ?
if so, would this situation be RACISM ?

answer is no, their is no racism in there because the situation the missions gives it in... is that the cubans wants the haitien out of ther territory because they want it for themselves, it has nothing to do with the fact that they are haitiens, if it were americans in there it would have been the same !

so this is useless and pure non-sens !
simply stupid !
And plus they cant do nuttin the game been out for like a year.. ???
its bull yo all of the sudden rockstar ur game is RACIS.. ???



Edited By CyRuS OnEr on Mar. 01 2004 at 15:34