Guilty gear xx - Greatest 2-d fighting game.

[SBYRD5]

Guilty Gear XX is the greatest 2-D fighting game ever.

It has been for the last two years I'd say or 3.

Well to me anyway,but hardily no one talks about it.

Guilty Gear owns King Of Fighters and Street Fighter Series by the balls.

No questions asked....=/

princevegetam said this along time ago I'm supporting it...100%

Best 2-D Fighting game ever.



Edited By SBYRD5 on Jan. 17 2004 at 04:53

[G_GUNDAM]

lol i support yall too. it owns all these vs games. my fav character in that game is johnny cause of his skillz wiht the sword and his pimped out attitude. i cant wait till part 3 comes out. you can have 4 people fight on da screen at once and its gonna be online playable for da ps2. man im so happy that its gonna be online playable.

[SBYRD5]

:shocked: part 3...if 2 wasn't awesome enough... :buttrock:

[TJ5]

I am good with Ky, Jam, Sol, Faust =/

Part 3...finally I say !

In a Mag I got in the mail they talked about Sammy vs capcom which will house GGX ppl and capcom is prolly gonna put Dark stalkers in it =/ it should be good

[SBYRD5]

I am good with Ky, Jam, Sol, Faust =/

Part 3...finally I say !

In a Mag I got in the mail they talked about Sammy vs capcom which will house GGX ppl and capcom is prolly gonna put Dark stalkers in it =/ it should be good
OMG... :shocked:

[asshole]

Guilty Gear XX is the greatest 2-D fighting game ever.

It has been for the last two years I'd say or 3.

Well to me anyway,but hardily no one talks about it.

Guilty Gear owns King Of Fighters and Street Fighter Series by the balls.

No questions asked....=/

princevegetam said this along time ago I'm supporting it...100%

Best 2-D Fighting game ever.
You must be out of your mind, sucka.

[Dan Hibiki]

No, GGX, GGXX, and GGXX #Reload (JAP only) all own every single other 2-D fighting game. They have incredible depth in their engines, are (almost) glitch-free, and have incredible balance that allows any character, with enough training, to have an even chance at winning as any other character.

Facts:

GGXX #Reload is being ported to the X-Box for a Japanese XBL release with online play, just like CvSNK2:EO.

Sammy vs. Capcom is in the works, and will feature a mix between the two engines (GGXX engine and a sample of some SF engines from various games). The game will feature GGXX characters, SF characters, and Darkstalker characters.

Sammy is working on a 4-player GGXX game. It will allow for chaotic tag matches, and all-out four-players-at-once brawls. The engine is supposed to basically be the GGXX engine.

Sammy is on a roll, and is finally getting the respect they deserve here in America.

Too bad that GGX Advance wasn't very good. It played almost perfectly, but the sound and graphics sucked :(.



Edited By Dan Hibiki on Jan. 28 2004 at 16:42

[SSJKarma]

well, i got GUILTY GEAR X a few months ago...

i can't say its a bad game but like all other games it has its advantages and disadvantages !

advantages, the story really holds itselfup and th egame is greatly made... but still the destruction moves are just too dman easy to pull out and like it says it kills a person instantly even tho the round just began !

again, i find STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 3 way better then GUILTY GEAR X.
graphically speaking, GGX is better but gameplay wise, i like the SF series way better !

[Dan Hibiki]

In high-level play, instant kills are almost impossible to land. You need to activate the Instant Kill mode, and then you need a clean chance to land it. While in Instant Kill mode, your meter empties, and then your life goes down some. If you fail to land it, you do not have a meter and can't do Faultless Defense, Roman Cancels, or supers for the entire rest of that match. It is an incredible risk to do an Instant Kill.

Gameplay-wise, Guilty Gear games win out over SFA3 easily. You just haven't learned the nuances of the system, and how to link together bizarre stuff to create nice combos. In addition, you probably don't know the exact rushdown strategies that each character calls for, which is another gameplay aspect.

[SSJDan]

Hibiki is on fire :D

[SSJKarma]

DAN, that's just it ! don't you think its stupid to force a player to do as he wished for a certain character and not do what you wish to do with him ?

in any case, many characters in GGX are very difficult to do things you would want to do.
EXAMPLE...
the guy with the playing cards (he's great but i don't recall his name)
in any cases, he got to throw coins at people and they must hit the person for him to actually be able to do special moves. fact is, this coin toss thing is just dman too slow, reguardless of how i tryed to combo it into so i can as i hit the opponent, try to make more hits, it just relentlessly stop my combo and i have to restart again !

so seriously, for all i played GGX, its a great game, great chars great graphics... but seriously... its too damn hard to do anything with the chars and since its so hard to master every charcaters cause their moves are too damn hard to make, mainly, ya can't do a 30 hit combo in the game ! ya always end up with a maximum of a 10 hit or something !

in any case, gameplay wise, i still have to find any game close to the strategie SFA3 brought along !

as for instant kills, yeah i know they must be tuffer to do in higher levels... but its nonetheless, a really cheap way when you fight against a real opponent and not a computer !

one other thing, even tho i hate people who still do the same trick over an over... the NEGATIVE PENALTIES just sucks.

one thing i liked in the VS series that we lack in all other fighting game, are the jump block !
tho i think SFA 3 has them as well !

in any case, the game is great for what it is, but for me it sure aint beating out SFA3 nor will it defeat MvsC2 !

[Dan Hibiki]

I think its good that you can't play the same way with every character. It adds variety, and a unique feel for each character that you don't get with others. It feels different using Ky versus using Sol, and everybody else, too.

That's Johnny, and you don't need to hit them with the coin to do special moves. Use his Mist Finer special, and it renders QCF+P, QCF+S, and QCF+HS unblockable while the mist remains on the opponent. Land a coin once, it increases the damage of each of those moves listed. Land a coin twice, and it turns it into a 14 or so hit combo for quarter-life damage. Oh, and Johnny also has other special moves besides the ones I listed. The coins are also a special. Oh, and you CAN combo into it. Go into practice and figure it out.

You can do some nasty, NASTY combos in GGXX. Watch combo videos to show you how. I've seen 38 hits easily with Venom, and similar numbers of hits with all characters except Potemkin (15 or so with him, but his combos HURT). Just because you can't do combos EASILY in a game doesn't make it worse. It means that you're not good at it. Try using Impossible Dust to start combos MvC2 launcher-style. You can do some nice ones like that using Roman Cancels and fRCs (in GGXX, not in GGX).

MvC2 only has huge combos because it was so horribly made that it has a glitch in practically every part of the game. Even multi-hit throws can be glitched into half-life crap.

MvC2 has no character balance. Four characters destroy the entire rest of the cast of 50-some odd characters. Every tournament-level winning team consists of Sentinel/Magneto/Cable and Storm sometimes being put into there. They destroy the game utterly. You CAN'T tell me that Morrigan can beat Sentinel in high-level play. This is the word of a three-time world champion (Justin Wong), and everybody he beat on the way.

Negative Penalty penalizes you for sucking at the game and not being able to regain initiative, or for turtling. You must be offensive to do well in the game.

You can air block in GGX and GGXX. Just hold back during a jump. Some moves can't be blocked in the air, such as supers, but if you use Faultless Defense in the air, you can block them, but it spends a bit of meter.

The entire strategy in SFA3 is to use V-ISM and set up unblockable Custom Combos using a special mix of overhead and low moves to prevent them from being able to block it, and then taking a ridiculous amount of life off. Dhalsim and Akuma are the best at that. In addition, the goal is to cause Guard Crushes for more unblockable moves. Finally, if you get stuck in a corner, against some characters like Sakura, you might as well put down the controller. SFA3 is fun and deep, but it by no means has the most strategy of any game. Soul Calibur II and Tekken 4 have more strategy easily.

GGXX is good because the programmers made it that way. MvC2 is 'good' as you think of it because the programmers were freakin' slobs and made horrible code that produced incredibly retarded glitches that made the game fun, but also completely ruined the game competitively. SFA3 is horribly unbalanced, and the entire game works off of V-ISM unblockable CCs and Guard Crushes as main points.

I doubt you'll listen to me, though... you never do.

[G_GUNDAM]

DAN, that's just it ! don't you think its stupid to force a player to do as he wished for a certain character and not do what you wish to do with him ?

in any case, many characters in GGX are very difficult to do things you would want to do.
EXAMPLE...
the guy with the playing cards (he's great but i don't recall his name)
in any cases, he got to throw coins at people and they must hit the person for him to actually be able to do special moves. fact is, this coin toss thing is just dman too slow, reguardless of how i tryed to combo it into so i can as i hit the opponent, try to make more hits, it just relentlessly stop my combo and i have to restart again !

so seriously, for all i played GGX, its a great game, great chars great graphics... but seriously... its too damn hard to do anything with the chars and since its so hard to master every charcaters cause their moves are too damn hard to make, mainly, ya can't do a 30 hit combo in the game ! ya always end up with a maximum of a 10 hit or something !

in any case, gameplay wise, i still have to find any game close to the strategie SFA3 brought along !

as for instant kills, yeah i know they must be tuffer to do in higher levels... but its nonetheless, a really cheap way when you fight against a real opponent and not a computer !

one other thing, even tho i hate people who still do the same trick over an over... the NEGATIVE PENALTIES just sucks.

one thing i liked in the VS series that we lack in all other fighting game, are the jump block !
tho i think SFA 3 has them as well !

in any case, the game is great for what it is, but for me it sure aint beating out SFA3 nor will it defeat MvsC2 !
lol karma that card playing guy is my fav character johnny. hell in part 2 his coin toss is rather fast meaning u can do some insane combos like i do. hell i love nailing this combo on my friends cause they always fall for it and get hella pissed. punch, punch, punch, kick, heavy slash, coin toss, dash+heavy slash, coin toss, down foward+punch. if nailed right his mist finner attack will hit 10 times since he powered it up with his coin.


and dan you are right. ggxx is very balanced compared to mvc. hell if you put a fast person against a powerful slow person in a fight in mvc 2 then u know the speed character will win. but in ggxx its a lot diff. ive seen people slaughter with that big guy potemkin. and the speed characters are good in ggxx but you cant just button mash and what knot cause you will get destroyed. hell i like ggxx a whole lot better than the vs games and alpha 3 because the graphics are also a hell of a lot better and the gameplay is just pimp. hell you can double jump, air dash, air combo, and a whole lot extra in ggxx. man so far im hella good with johnny/slayer/ky/chip/testament/and zappa.

on another note, ggxx characters are all original. there are no clones like ryu/ken/and akuma. each character is unique and requires diff strats and skillz to win.



Edited By G_GUNDAM on Jan. 29 2004 at 21:59

[SBYRD5]

I can't talk for GGX.

But I can say GGXX is unreal purely the BEST 2-D game ever.

The speed is amazing,and certia characters have extreme modes of play.

Like my boy Chipp Zanuff an Ky.

Both have an awesome Extreme mode.

Simply press R1 then choose that character.(Thats for PS I don'tknow for other systems)

The game is planily EYE candy.

My favorites are...all of them....EVERYONE owns.

Fuast may be the best character though in a high game play level.....Justice,Sol,Cliff


<span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'>CLIFF OWNS!!!!!!!!!!!</span>

I'm on Dan's side 100%.

[G_GUNDAM]

im on dans side 110% ;)

[SSJKarma]

DAN, maybe they did it better in the sequel...

but i was referring to GGX on DREAMCAST !
no the coin thing cannot be comboed into in the dreamcast port !
i have faqs of about 3 different persons i tryed most of the moves i was able to and combo it into, nothing works.

can't speak for the XX version, but surely... SFA3 still has lots of startegies... example the guy in V-ISM can do lots of damage, but they are easily countered and since hitting them means they lose even more super bars everytime, the V-ISM is easily defeated ! so even if the style you speak about is unblockable, it is not unstopable !

TEKKEN is nothing more then a button mashing game, mash the button one after the other and see how you can eaisly go on and on and on and on !

Soul Caliber, well yeah it is a very great game, one of my favorite, but you fall intot he 3D games which is pretty damn different then 2D games which are way faster of gameplay !

in any case, i never told you that GGXX or even GGX is a very poor game, it is a very addicting game, but i find the frst on dreamcast to be lacking a few things !

i didn't play long enough tho to see a lot and alot about it !
as for MvsC2 how nmany time can i tell you that the game is balanced !
MAGNETO i can easily defeat, storm i can easily defeat and sentinel is nothing more then an overgrown target in that game !

so again, i doubt the WORLD CHAMPION to have ever said that one of his friend with servbot defeated him !

it may be his best team, but have you ever tryed to see him play with other characters ?
RARE are those who can easily play with all the characters reguardless of who they are !

in any case all games have their pro's and con's ! and i doubt GGXX to be any different !

you know how it is...
the first 2 months, METAL GEAR SOLID 2 was the best rated game ever, 10 out of 10 !

but after a few motnhs, the game started to drop off as players been finding weaknesses int he game !
no game ever been an exception to that law !

in any case i think all games have their good side and their bad side !

[Dan Hibiki]

GGX on Dreamcast was a wonderful game. Johnny is played in a very pressure-oriented game using the Mist Finer in conjunction with those specials to create constant pressure. Using the pressure, he can exact strategies that normally wouldn't work if they kept on rushdown and instead had to plan around his Mist slashes.

Tekken Tag and Tekken 4 are by NO means a button masher's game. It takes an incredible amount of strategy to be good at the game. If you just do random moves, you'll be destroyed in high or even medium-low level play play.

Only weakness in GGXX is that you MUST play a rushdown offense to be effective. Turtling only gets you messed over.

I can guarantee you that Justin Wong NEVER would have lost to Servbot if he tried with that team I gave you. That team loses to almost no one, if anybody besides themselves. The simplest fact of the matter, is that in the hands of experts, a character's true limitations and capabilities come to light, and Mags/Sent/Cable with Storm just rise above the rest.

It's nice that you can easily beat the team I gave you. You're either playing against a lame-as-heck computer, or against a low-level player. True high-level gameplay is absolutely different than what you see when you just play casually on your Dreamcast or whatever its on.

You want to see high-level fighting game play? There's some samples in the EVO 2003 DVD trailer on www.shoryuken.com if you want to see real skill. It shows the power of Magneto, and shows what some real Tekken 4, Tekken Tag, SC2, GGXX, CvSNK2, and MvC2 talents on it. It also shows some VF4, but I don't know enough about it to comment.

[Bubble1]

really i like Bloody Roar. I kind hate 2d fighter. my fiavorite fighter is of coures Soul Caliber2. i mean i even have the end game quote. that waz hard to earn!! so :baaa:

[CharginPoo]

ive never played any ggx games or street fighter games :shocked:

[Bubble1]

ive never played any ggx games or street fighter games :shocked:
do u play sfo? i played streetfighter2or3 on the SNES. now that i think about it. it rocked. Soul Caliber2 is better thogh.

[Dan Hibiki]

Talk about GGX and GGXX here, not SC2, MvC2, SFO, etc.

[CharginPoo]

ive never played any ggx games or street fighter games :shocked:
do u play sfo? i played streetfighter2or3 on the SNES. now that i think about it. it rocked. Soul Caliber2 is better thogh.
Yeah , i play Sfo...Sometimes...aint played Sfo in a long time

[SBYRD5]

Axl Low reminds me of that rock star Axl sorta.

[G_GUNDAM]

my fav character johnny reminds me of a pimped out version of zorro.



Edited By G_GUNDAM on Feb. 19 2004 at 17:00

[LiQuiDSRK]

OMG. I luv GGXX. there's some CRWAZY GGXX action in the evo2k3 dvd!!!

[TJ5]

Dan is right on the GGXX part about you have to be in constant offense. Turtling will get you nowhere fast. my best characters would have to be ky,sol,faust,chipp,jam

I need justice,cliff,robo-ky I cannot get the 3 story endings its ticking me off can anyone help a friend out here ? :biggrin: