New aids vaccine - Yes, there is hope

[SolidSnake76]

[color=#000000]For more than 20 years, it's been a struggle for AIDS researchers like immunologist Julie McElrath, M.D., Ph.D. Dr. McElrath, Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, Seattle: "HIV is tricky. It is definitely eluding us." Since the mid-80s, scientists have been trying to produce an AIDS vaccine. There have been countless studies that have enrolled people like Wendy Hilliker. Dr. McElrath: "It was important for me because I had seen people that I cared about -- people that I'd worked with -- succumb to AIDS." The virus has a crafty ability to mutate and evade drugs designed to fight it. But some promising findings from yet another vaccine offer new hope. Dr. McElrath: "For now, we think it's the best thing we've seen yet, ever

[machine1]

lol u made this topic here too..... well yeah its good news....... we need vaccines ....we need cures...... its about time these scientists start giving us what they are gettin paid for....

[~Mastermax~]

many scientists are being paid not to discover the cure for things...

the people that are really over paid are the pharmaceutical companies they purposely charge extra and make less cures to raise their price. most off the money that they are supposed to be using for research is used for advertising.

[Warmor]

This is good news for all the ###s.

[Virtual Fighter]

This is good news for all the ###s.
And the other 40 million people all over the world.

what are you, stupid? 84% of Aids sufferers are non-gay, and lesibans are the lowest Aids rate with less than 1%.

Aids doesn't discriminate and I hope that someone you love gets aids so then you will realize that.

[y_09]

This is good news, this could help change the face of Africa completely, what with the G8 countries talking about tackling poverty, clearing debts, and investing in Africa things are looking up for Africa and its people, and of course not forgetting the main issue, a possible defense against aids for those who suffer from it.

[azncat]

god damn o_O... i should read the news more... but this "vaccine is only something to prevent it right? you still die right?

[~Mastermax~]

vf you realize that in the 80s and early ninties, only homosexual men had aids, and then it spread into heterosexual society somehow.

and it's understandable for lesbians not to have aids, becuase to get aids you have to be able to have sexual intercourse with some kind of penetration, and thats something lesbians can't do becuase of the lack of, well, penises. the only other way to spread aids without penetration is for your blood to have been touched by some else's blood, by means of a syrienges or a large wound.

but then again with a wound like that you have other more important problems at the time.

[caylan1234]

Man i think this is great a cure for tha sick finally. :)

[Virtual Fighter]

vf you realize that in the 80s and early ninties, only homosexual men had aids, and then it spread into heterosexual society somehow.


You realize that that's myth told to you (probably by the church) to spread homophobia?

Everyone had aids. Gay people, straight people, black people, white people, everyone got it equally.

The only reason why this myth started is that they noticed something was killing gay men all in the same way, and called it aids. It was killing straight men and women the same way, but as you know, aids doesn't kill, it takes away immunities, so they were labled as "unknown sickness" instead of what it was, aids.

[Rage_Unleashed]

Have you ever though about this? The reason the drug company's dont come out with cures is because then once it is cured they wont get any money. Just a thought but it could be true. ALso the guy who was part of the group who found the aids cure was my brothers teachers aunt. It was crazy!! and about those pharmaceutical companies look at walgreens!! :D

[Elena]

vf you realize that in the 80s and early ninties, only homosexual men had aids, and then it spread into heterosexual society somehow.

and it's understandable for lesbians not to have aids, becuase to get aids you have to be able to have sexual intercourse with some kind of penetration, and thats something lesbians can't do becuase of the lack of, well, penises. the only other way to spread aids without penetration is for your blood to have been touched by some else's blood, by means of a syrienges or a large wound.

but then again with a wound like that you have other more important problems at the time.
Lol, you talk about lesbians like you know all about them. Lesbians can get HIV (the first step before getting AIDS, normally.) Lesbians give each other head which then gives off fluid...which can have the virus in it...therefore transfering it. You don't have to "penetrate" anything to get the virus... an unknowing mother can give her child HIV from her breast milk.

I heard about that homosexual thing on Oprah a long time ago...if only I could remember the year and month....but anyways...HIV has been around in humans since about 1940. It came from monkeys...in Africa. Scientist are unsure how it transfered from species...but it's about time the found a vaccine, yay.

[TremulantX]

vf you realize that in the 80s and early ninties, only homosexual men had aids, and then it spread into heterosexual society somehow.

and it's understandable for lesbians not to have aids, becuase to get aids you have to be able to have sexual intercourse with some kind of penetration, and thats something lesbians can't do becuase of the lack of, well, penises. the only other way to spread aids without penetration is for your blood to have been touched by some else's blood, by means of a syrienges or a large wound.

but then again with a wound like that you have other more important problems at the time.
Lol, you talk about lesbians like you know all about them. Lesbians can get HIV (the first step before getting AIDS, normally.) Lesbians give each other head which then gives off fluid...which can have the virus in it...therefore transfering it. You don't have to "penetrate" anything to get the virus... an unknowing mother can give her child HIV from her breast milk.

I heard about that homosexual thing on Oprah a long time ago...if only I could remember the year and month....but anyways...HIV has been around in humans since about 1940. It came from monkeys...in Africa. Scientist are unsure how it transfered from species...but it's about time the found a vaccine, yay.
There will never be a cure or 100% effective vaccine for AIDS and HIV... I'm here to kill all of your hopes and dreams..... the flu will never be cured just dulled down like it was from the epidemic of influenza. Maybe they'll get it to where you can't die from it but they will never cure it. :biggrin: Stop using un-protected sex you bastards, wrap your tool or be celabate. It's a virus...... it'll mutate and never be fully wiped out until the end of the universe.



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[Rage_Unleashed]

vf you realize that in the 80s and early ninties, only homosexual men had aids, and then it spread into heterosexual society somehow.

and it's understandable for lesbians not to have aids, becuase to get aids you have to be able to have sexual intercourse with some kind of penetration, and thats something lesbians can't do becuase of the lack of, well, penises. the only other way to spread aids without penetration is for your blood to have been touched by some else's blood, by means of a syrienges or a large wound.

but then again with a wound like that you have other more important problems at the time.
Lol, you talk about lesbians like you know all about them. Lesbians can get HIV (the first step before getting AIDS, normally.) Lesbians give each other head which then gives off fluid...which can have the virus in it...therefore transfering it. You don't have to "penetrate" anything to get the virus... an unknowing mother can give her child HIV from her breast milk.

I heard about that homosexual thing on Oprah a long time ago...if only I could remember the year and month....but anyways...HIV has been around in humans since about 1940. It came from monkeys...in Africa. Scientist are unsure how it transfered from species...but it's about time the found a vaccine, yay.
There will never be a cure or 100% effective vaccine for AIDS and HIV... I'm here to kill all of your hopes and dreams..... the flu will never be cured just dulled down like it was from the epidemic of influenza. Maybe they'll get it to where you can't die from it but they will never cure it. :biggrin: Stop using un-protected sex you bastards, wrap your tool or be celabate. It's a virus...... it'll mutate and never be fully wiped out until the end of the universe.
lol its true because aids is a retrovirus. a nonliving microbe that can change its genetic structure easily. So its very difficult to find a cure because then you gotta isolate each strand. However it would be nice if there was a cure.

Edit* i read my post and it sounds like there is no cure. sorry i sound like a jerk. But only time can tell if this cure is effective.



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[~Mastermax~]

i didn't know know aids could be spread with oral sex, and who the hell fliped the monkey in the first place? must be that crazy bitch who lived with them for a year, that movie sucked in science class...

[Virtual Fighter]

That "he fliped a monkey" thing is again, a myth. Why? Probably to associate homosexuals (another myth) with those who have sex with animals.

Here's how it really started:

"At the opening lecture at 5pm tonite Dr Beatrice Hahn talked about her reseaerch in Africa and how her research leads her to think that HIV was passed to humans from monkeys in West Central Africa. Her research leads her to believe that HIV was passed from other primates to monkeys thousands of years ago. And she believes that perhaps HIV was passed to humans through the business of hunting and selling bushmeat in Central Africa by humans. The humans were exposed to the blood of primates through catching, killing, and cutting up the animals."

http://www.natap.org/2002/9retro/day0.htm

Secondly, the aids virus cannot mutate. That's why there's only 1 type of aids virus, instead of the flu which is around 10,000 different kinds.

[TremulantX]

i didn't know know aids could be spread with oral sex, and who the hell fliped the monkey in the first place? must be that crazy bitch who lived with them for a year, that movie sucked in science class...
AIDS is classified as an STD you dope...... it's sexually transmitted among other things. :bored:

[Virtual Fighter]

OH! So that explains why you can get it through needles, open wounds and birth transfer.

God bless no-sex-sex.

[SolidSnake76]

i wish you wasnt banned from BG VF, blaze is ranting about those who had sex and knew the consequences shouldnt get the vaccine.

oh and: http://www.boydgraves.com/timeline/

did you know that aids was created by the US to downsize the black population starting back in 1878?

[Virtual Fighter]

wish I wasn't banned.. bullpoop. You were calling me an "arragant flip" like 2 weeks ago.

And I wish I wasn't banned eigther, because I did read that and I was just ghashing my teeth.

[SBYRD5]

This is good news for all the ###s.
But most likely it began with a homosexual white male & an a homosexual black male...wamors..ancestor... :rolleyes:

[ScarletSpider]

did you know that aids was created by the US to downsize the black population starting back in 1878?
Oh yeah...I'll bet...

Back in 1878, all they really had were microscopes. How they could create AIDS is beyond me, and even if they could, I highly doubt that they did. The thing about the people hunting monkeys and contracting it from them by blood contact seems a helluva lot more convincing than that crock of poop.

[Warmor]

This is good news for all the ###s.
And the other 40 million people all over the world.

what are you, stupid? 84% of Aids sufferers are non-gay, and lesibans are the lowest Aids rate with less than 1%.

Aids doesn't discriminate and I hope that someone you love gets aids so then you will realize that.
Ahh...and it's the gays that are more prone to it. I'm not saying why, maybe they should learn to rape that meat up more?

[Rage_Unleashed]

lol this topic has tourned into a sexual orientation slander festival...

[Elena]

i didn't know know aids could be spread with oral sex, and who the hell fliped the monkey in the first place? must be that crazy bitch who lived with them for a year, that movie sucked in science class...
Aye, you truly are ignorant. No one "flipped" the monkey. They believed it could of transferred because of the eating of raw meat and drinking of blood of the infected monkey. The Africans believed that drinking blood gave strength...

Here's some websites if you want some info: http://www.avert.org/origins.htm

http://www.whale.to/v/cantwell3.html

For more info just go to Google and type in Orgin of HIV/AIDS...and Snake...tell me where you got your info...I've heard of that too...

[Virtual Fighter]

This is good news for all the ###s.
And the other 40 million people all over the world.

what are you, stupid? 84% of Aids sufferers are non-gay, and lesibans are the lowest Aids rate with less than 1%.

Aids doesn't discriminate and I hope that someone you love gets aids so then you will realize that.
Ahh...and it's the gays that are more prone to it. I'm not saying why, maybe they should learn to rape that meat up more?
If they were more prone to it, statistically there would be more gay aids sufferers than the 16% we have now, leaving 42% straight men and logically 42% straight women. So, straight men and straight women are 3 times mroe likley to get aids than a gay man.

[SBYRD5]

This is good news for all the ###s.
And the other 40 million people all over the world.

what are you, stupid? 84% of Aids sufferers are non-gay, and lesibans are the lowest Aids rate with less than 1%.

Aids doesn't discriminate and I hope that someone you love gets aids so then you will realize that.
Ahh...and it's the gays that are more prone to it. I'm not saying why, maybe they should learn to rape that meat up more?
Reasons being...anal/fecas.....seems like a messy scenrio... :D

Plowing through fecas...you should expect a disease.... :whatsthat:


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PS= Elena Aids didn't spread to africa...tell WHite settlers.....began thier immigration.....


I think solidsnake's thoery holds more justification... :eh:



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[SolidSnake76]

Back in 1878, all they really had were microscopes. How they could create AIDS is beyond me, and even if they could, I highly doubt that they did. The thing about the people hunting monkeys and contracting it from them by blood contact seems a helluva lot more convincing than that crock of poop.
did you pay attention to the timeline?

if they could see and blow up DNA back in the 1950s, what makes you think they couldnt create a virus. where theres a will, theres a way, remember that.

@elena: this link: http://www.boydgraves.com/timeline/

research started back in 1878, and with those racist scientist flips in charged backed up by the gov't, it really shows you how poopty this country can be, was and still is.

and i been believing that story of how this canadian pilot introduced AIDS to africa in the late 1980s....

[Elena]

Snake...I read it and I don't know if I should believe it...but who is "we"...

[~Mastermax~]

i didn't know know aids could be spread with oral sex, and who the hell fliped the monkey in the first place? must be that crazy bitch who lived with them for a year, that movie sucked in science class...
Aye, you truly are ignorant. No one "flipped" the monkey. They believed it could of transferred because of the eating of raw meat and drinking of blood of the infected monkey. The Africans believed that drinking blood gave strength...

Here's some websites if you want some info: http://www.avert.org/origins.htm

http://www.whale.to/v/cantwell3.html

For more info just go to Google and type in Orgin of HIV/AIDS...and Snake...tell me where you got your info...I've heard of that too...
can you not tell i was joking?

[Elena]

Nope...and I beleive you were not "kidding" and you are saying you were so you don't sound stupid...but then again I could be wrong. :1

[~Mastermax~]

saying that Jane Goodall infected humanity by fliping a monkey, is obviously a joke...

[Virtual Fighter]

It wasn't a very funny one, it lacked punchline and set up aspects.

You suck at telling jokes.

[~Mastermax~]

It wasn't a very funny one, it lacked punchline and set up aspects.

You suck at telling jokes.
shut up you racist commie...

[MasterX05]

I cant grow up like Eazy-E a victum of aids!

[Virtual Fighter]

It wasn't a very funny one, it lacked punchline and set up aspects.

You suck at telling jokes.
shut up you racist commie...
Hey.. I'm not a racist.

[privatepure]

hehehe sex witout condoms all we need is BCP for the ladies and we set:laugh:
anyway aids is transmited easier from guy 2 guy then guy and women and the least %chance happenign 2 is lesbians which was said in the biggining but the gay ppl have something 2 worry about might mkae them think twice:angry:

[KenDaShoto]

just saw this little topic and read it through. i saw a few things wrong that vf said the went unchallenged. so id like to point out that the AIDS virus does mutate and has recently. a new strain kills in like 6 months i think

New Strain (http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-02-13-voa28.cfm)

that the quickest sorce i could find.

and then when you said about the gay thing with straight men and women. the percentage is expected to be higher because there are alot more straight men and women than there are gay men and women so you should try to compare the percent of the gay population that has aids to the percent of the straight population that has aids im not sure what that looks like and im not really in the mood to go looking



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[Shingko]

ya you really DO only need brith control pills, the problem is that it actually kicks in and lets your start...it in 3 months plus it gives a higher percentage of not getting stuff. unless they are only for birth control then we men have to find the condoms...

BCP: 1% of something going bad
Condoms: 2 or 3 percents of something going bad
Both: 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 of something going bad

[Virtual Fighter]

Condoms are 1% chances of bursting or soemthing, if you wear them right. BCP are arond 12% if you use the cheap kind.

[caylan1234]

Man this has gotten out of hand come on people quit arguing and just listen to one another dont make fun of others peoples ideas even if they do sound wierd.