Bottom line of my mind... - It had to come out...

[SSJKarma]

I got enough guys... many of you won't just care and look at it i probably will just be flamed for saying such things but i had to tell them. if you're interested in knowing the bottom of my mind then go on and read otherwise just get the hell out of here !

First i want to speak about the peple saying SFO sucks or SFO is gay... you guys are th eones that makes me mad the most, i mean come on you guys are th efirst ones to say it sucks cause there is nothing good hapenneing, but what you guys always end up forgetting is that its up to you to make it better not up to us ! i have enough of hearing this bullpoop. its all crap and you know it just like i do. i'm mad at you guys for saying such things its so stupid to say such things.

second, i got enough of you people telling me this place is all about info and bugs, and that is mostly for you mods... am i truly the only one to have noticed how this has become more then just a forum for info and bugs ? in th efirst place, if tmyapp and the others created the different sections then clearly it was for the users to enjoy their time here so explain me why do we have to tell them not to be happy coming here ? tell me why we should let things go off and not do anything cause back then (like 3 years ago) it was like that ? its so lame of you to think that. this has changed, and so should you had to as well ! this is a community and not a info forum anymore, it means a lot more to me then just a info site. we should be carefull of our members and not just telling them to get the hell out of here if they aren't happy with this. we should be more carefull of their feelings.

third, many peple here are coming here just for the heck of flaming and dissing others... respect is all that many of us ask for and all we got are stupid remarks on ourselves, i got enough of being a nobody ! i have enough of being the target of everything people say i got enough of being sued for saying a simple fact. i have enough of being told that even thou i was here for the last 3 years that i don't know a poop about SFO ! i have enough of being this, it hurts to be left behind just cause people think you're nothing compared to them. all i ask is to be respected.

TMyApp, i might not have understood how you felt about this the right way... but there is one thing i know, you didn't do this just for the fun of it, you did it for the people and if that is true then truly you know that we should be doing way more then just saying hi to the new comers !

i can't say i will leave, this place has been like a new family for me and i doubt i will leave it anytime soon. but i don't want it to fall either and we're already far down. why aren't we getting back up ? why are people so much against SFO yet coming back here for more, can't we just all get along and enjoy the ride on the forum ?

People it's up to us to put this place back up.
Post intelligently and stop bithcing at others or at the forum.
i hate people bitching at this family of mine !

[SBYRD5]

:plain: ....you know...

even if no one else says this I understand were you've been in this forum SSJKarma...and were your at now....

You were always a forum junkie(Not a bad thing so was I).

So I've seen your fustrated post to your thrilled posts.


*sigh* I love this forum as a family also man.

I've been here for almost 3 years now....I don't hate anyone....even those who I've held arguements with....I can say in a view I respect them....


Those words you said rung clear in my soul man..because I understood were you were comming from..probally in a fashion...you wont have to correct me...


I also understand that you speak english as a 2nd lang. So sometimes your words aren't clear.....and I guess new users wouldn't respect you....when you don't use large words all the time....but your an old timer I still got respect for you man....probally for an on going time....


*sigh* I'm not leaving this forum tell you leave SSJKarma....

and if I don't leave then...then I'll leave the day Elena leave's...then if I don't go.....

yeah and so on...


yeah always looked at you as a semi-mentor karma.

I suppose as the years flewby we should've known days like these would rain......


To think man....how fun it was....I can't even begin to explain the huge.. change....


I think...mostily because as you said no one respects anyone...as much anymore....



Edited By SBYRD5 on 1115280625

[dontmesswitme]

Yes, I understand how you feel, SSJKarma. This forum is so different the way I knew it before. All people care right now is having a big reputation, or even, some people just become a VIP for the heck of it (no offense to other good VIPs). Kids coming in the forums and talking nonsense, spamming, and yet, being flamed by other people. No one, or most of the people, doesn't care about what's gonna happen next.

I did leave SFO forums for awhile.. but still, I'm not satisfied with the way it is, so I just come and go.. If we could bring back how this forum was 3 years ago, then I would be happy, because I also think this is a 2nd family to me, and I love it.

[SBYRD5]

Yes, I understand how you feel, SSJKarma. This forum is so different the way I knew it before. All people care right now is having a big reputation, or even, some people just become a VIP for the heck of it (no offense to other good VIPs). Kids coming in the forums and talking nonsense, spamming, and yet, being flamed by other people. No one, or most of the people, doesn't care about what's gonna happen next.

I did leave SFO forums for awhile.. but still, I'm not satisfied with the way it is, so I just come and go.. If we could bring back how this forum was 3 years ago, then I would be happy, because I also think this is a 2nd family to me, and I love it.
You know when you run away from a problem it doesn't...flight because of it's own plight....

I try to treat everyone with respect...but...it rarely is returned to me in the same fashion...but you know...lol

That's the way it is..lol :whatsthat:

[alamgir]

But what can we do to get this place up?

[ACE4004]

WWTD?

[Abdoun_bacK]

hey...i made a thread fo rhelping out new people to SFO..no one posted yet...

[ACE4004]

a n00b concentration Camp maybe in order.

[Virtual Fighter]

God damnit, Karma. Do you ever let this topic DIE?!

[Abdoun_bacK]

to make this clear and simple for everyone...what karma is trying to say is...

make the best with what you have


nuff said..end of topic

[Virtual Fighter]

I liked how in the end, karma said "post here freely... but don't oppose my oppinion!"

-_-'

[SolidSnake76]

maybe if this forum was a lil less strict, we could make it more fun.

howbout that karma? go back to how some of the rules were before the "incident"?

[asshole]

1. SFO is GAY!
HAHHHHH! Flame me!

B. Yo Karma, I've done wayy more to tha community than a lottttt of PeoPle, yet, where's my resPect? DON'T KNOW, DON'T CizARE!

Yeah, why won't you just elt this ish die man?
If you think of this so much as a COMMUNITY, then why don't you realize what REALY community around you is like?
It's tha same.. PeoPle never gonan get along, give tha hell uP!

I've got wayy more to say, tbut I feel that we haven't come DEEPLY into this convo yet, so i'll give my 7 cents later!

[Abdoun_bacK]

1. SFO is GAY!
HAHHHHH! Flame me!

B. Yo Karma, I've done wayy more to tha community than a lottttt of PeoPle, yet, where's my resPect? DON'T KNOW, DON'T CizARE!

Yeah, why won't you just elt this ish die man?
If you think of this so much as a COMMUNITY, then why don't you realize what REALY community around you is like?
It's tha same.. PeoPle never gonan get along, give tha hell uP!

I've got wayy more to say, tbut I feel that we haven't come DEEPLY into this convo yet, so i'll give my 7 cents later!
hes got a point.pretty funny one too lol!...but you really cant force people to get along if they dont just makes the tension worse.....as i said before...make the best with what you have!

[Zpower]

that is mostly for you mods
mods against mods..... how ironic

[evryoung8998]

this forum is breaking up, thanks to some smartasses and to tell you the truth, it's never going to change

[dontmesswitme]

@SBYRD5: I feel the same way too, respect but not being respected in return. But hey, people can get along if they share the same feelings. Lol

[marvel911]

Yeah, yeah yeah.. :dozingoff:

Everyone has their opinions on this place, and the good majority of them are different. Accept the fact that this place has gone downhill in the past few years, and accept that the fact that there probably isnt a lot you can do to re-energize the forum activity here.



By the way, these threads make baby jesus cry, so desist.

[Dark_Paladin_X]

Karma is right. The people who say SFO sucks, gay, and all that stuff. If you got such a problem with the game, then leave it alone and stop disturbing everyone.

(From what karma said)This place was only suppose to be about SFO bugs/problem reporting. They added more for US, the players. So, instead of showing the "authorities" that we don't deserve it, or show that it was a waste of time for adding it. We should try and make the forum more live, so that it's more enjoyable and entertaining.

many peple here are coming here just for the heck of flaming and dissing others
hmm. To those people i say, "What's your problem?" If there's someone you don't like on the forum, ignore them. Or if they're trying to fight you on the forum, tell an admin or something. Don't just continue fighting them. it can only get yourself in trouble with them. Then you BOTH lose. If people are doing this more often, then we should just be more "aggresive" to those people. It's that easy.

we should be doing way more then just saying hi to the new comers !

There are plenty of people, fan sites that are willing to help out new comers. We just have to show them the way. It's up to them if they want to follow. We should also be trying to accomidate the people who were here longer.

Some, if not, alot of us are to blame for the condition we're in right now. We should try our best to fix it.

[dominicankid098]

The only thing that needs fixing is deleting the "Non sforelated" section. Seriously, there were less arguements when this section was not around. Now people have been banned because of this section with arguements, racism, and spamming to get their post count high. Most racism and arguements come from "general topics".

On the other hand, arguements in the sfo section will always be "who is better", "No, that strategy sucks and is cheap", "He cheated in the Ryu tourney", which I think it can be perfectly handled without someone getting offended emotionaly because of stereotypes and racism general discussions sometimes brings.

SSJKarma, I know you were here in 2001 to see how the community was way stronger then than how it is now. Don't give me that b/s that this community has grown in its best because the purpose of this forum was always to discuss SFO strategies, bugs, tournaments, and its updates. And I remember a time when everyone had fun when the forum was only built that way and since all the sections were only sfo related, everyone was involved with the game.

If these sections were never created, you people would be talking about only SFO. Meaning some of your would be more active in the game and making these "little" tournaments not seem so freaking LITTLE.

You people should start reading 2001 topics for you all can realize how things were back in the day, we never bitched and complain about adding new sections in this forum, WE WERE ALWAYS GREATFUL/THANKFUL for what we had. Now you guys have these sections and keep creating topics like "We need to fix these problems we are having with the community". Guess what? This section destroyed the SFO community. Now stop bitching and be glad that Nferno666/leftyfb hasn't deleted these sections yet.

And for those who still don't know how things are ran, then maybe you should read the [ state of things ] (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=16176) topic.



The End, for now...



Edited By dominicankid098 on 1115399725

[Restavega]

But what can we do to get this place up?
"People it's up to us to put this place back up.
Post intelligently and stop bithcing at others or at the forum."
-SSJKarma
There ya go, Alamgir.

Anyway, this forum is fine and dandy. But people continue to dwell around waiting for something to happen.. and when nothing happens does that necessarily mean the forum sucks, boring, or has gone down hill? What exactly does everyone want to happen? This is a forum... it's all about one post after the other. It doesn't get more glamorous than that.

I'm basically just sick of seeing "Who was the greatest member?", "The good 'ol days", and "Fondest memories of SFO" topics. Why are so many vets dwelling on the past and past achievements instead of making something special happen now? These days, everyone wants their respect and to be praised so these topics concerning the past make their way into the forum more and more often to rekindle what was lost... whether it be a special event or a member's deserved respect.

This forum, to me, is about relaxing after some fierce battles in SFO and competing in the occasional tournament. It's not about trying to become a forum celebrity, making exotic topics to become popular, or creating these "memory lane" threads in hopes of your name popping up once or twice. It seems these days everyone just wants to see how they measure up with the rest of the community.

The only conflict this forum may encounter to disturb it's peace is a fun but locked topic, wrongfully banned member, or forum shut down. Those are the things we have to avoid... and also topics like these. We don't need newcomers getting a first impression of this great community from this kind've topic.

[iTALY]

I dislike you SSJ.

On topic:

How about instead of trying to make the forums better, we try to make the game better. The game is what attracts people, not the forum.

[Virtual Fighter]

How about we just try to be better PERIOD?

Most of the sheep (AKA those who refuse to think for themselves on issues like the state of the forum and game alike) say they refuse to change because they are accepting mediocrity and discontent.

Why not make things better? What bad can possibly come from it?

There's no reason not to.

[alamgir]

But what can we do to get this place up?
"People it's up to us to put this place back up.
Post intelligently and stop bithcing at others or at the forum."
-SSJKarma
There ya go, Alamgir.

Anyway, this forum is fine and dandy. But people continue to dwell around waiting for something to happen.. and when nothing happens does that necessarily mean the forum sucks, boring, or has gone down hill? What exactly does everyone want to happen? This is a forum... it's all about one post after the other. It doesn't get more glamorous than that.

I'm basically just sick of seeing "Who was the greatest member?", "The good 'ol days", and "Fondest memories of SFO" topics. Why are so many vets dwelling on the past and past achievements instead of making something special happen now? These days, everyone wants their respect and to be praised so these topics concerning the past make their way into the forum more and more often to rekindle what was lost... whether it be a special event or a member's deserved respect.

This forum, to me, is about relaxing after some fierce battles in SFO and competing in the occasional tournament. It's not about trying to become a forum celebrity, making exotic topics to become popular, or creating these "memory lane" threads in hopes of your name popping up once or twice. It seems these days everyone just wants to see how they measure up with the rest of the community.

The only conflict this forum may encounter to disturb it's peace is a fun but locked topic, wrongfully banned member, or forum shut down. Those are the things we have to avoid... and also topics like these. We don't need newcomers getting a first impression of this great community from this kind've topic.
People do make intelligent posts here and there nowadays but they're the ones that cause the flaming because they're on subjects like this.

And people dwell on the "good old days" because thats what they were, "good". To be honest I don't know what's happened to this place, but I think it might have to do with the lack of members who started intelectual conversations.

Well I guess your right though, we should improve this place and look to the future. All we need is somewhere to start.

[SSJKarma]

so you guys suggest that we get back ot the old days of the forum where you there was only 3 sections ?

let me get this straight, th esections were...

GENERAL COMMENT AND STRATEGIE
NEW FEATURES
BUGS

That's what you guys ask because that's the only thing we ever had back then.

we got a lot of sections because YOU, as in THE MEMBERS wanted those sections to be, now i say make up your mind, you wanted them and now that you have them you say its because of them that we have these ####s problems ! again, i say make up your mind !

Snake, the forum is far from being too strict, i wonder when you guys will notice how much freedom we have given compared to what we had back int he days of 2KWARRIOR and ZING79 and even QUASS and LORDCYRIS. come on, we're far from being STRICT if we were a lot more users would be banned for a lot of you have banners that far exceed the limit given back then.

a lot would be banned for flaming all the time and even more would be banned just for saying this game sucks badly and that it shouldn't even exist. yet they are still there telling their opinion , having their HUGGGGGGE banners. so i am sick of people dwelling int he past as you say, come on, you say you the past should be forgotten but all you do is base yourself on past experiment to make your opinion of this place !

i know a lot of rules are just simply stupid... but you should have noticed how they aren't even used as excuses for the mods.

last thig i will say you guys wanted to know why i always bragged about this, now you know... it was how i felt and if you aren't feeling the same then no problems about it, its your things... but the last thing i needed was to be flamed for saying MY OPINION ! you might not like me, and probably that i feel the same about you... but you don't see me flaming and dissgin in about all topics you make !

its pretty simple for me... i like this place a lot, so much that at least i want to make things to at least give the other users a good day when they surf this forum. if you don't like it then go away do some sports chat with oters download porn if ya want to but do what you like !

but there is one thing i wonder if you dislike this place so much then why are you just there posting and stuff...
it doesn't make any sense !

[Dark_Paladin_X]

but there is one thing i wonder if you dislike this place so much then why are you just there posting and stuff...
it doesn't make any sense !
It's so very true. You have such a problem, then go away. We don't need them (since we do get quite a few new players each day). So we can easily replace the haters. :biggrin:

[dominicankid098]

let me get this straight, th esections were...

GENERAL COMMENT AND STRATEGIE
NEW FEATURES
BUGS
Don't forget the Challenges and Tournaments section. And yeah, those sections would be better since alot of admins don't want to put up with general topics like this one. Dwelling in the past just because the game was way much popular then? TMyApp might, MIGHT, get a lot more hits a week nowbut about 80% now of the users go there to chat/cyber/date and flood. If we had the 4 sections we had before, everyone would be talking about SFO and making all these good setup tournaments not seem so little. Maybe some wouldn't have retired. Maybe the game, not chat, would be much more popular, ranking TMY on top of all shockwave games.

Get this through your thick head. This forum was never created for general discussions about the economy, religion, meet friends and have cyber girlfriends. It was made for SFO STATUS, UPDATES, strategies, tournaments. If you are looking for a community for general discussion, then there are a bunch of communities of that poop in ezboard.com or myspace.com that might fit you. I don't think any admin wants to put up with topics like these. Nferno666 already said it, and blanka09 had said it as well, you keep pushing it and they will just delete these sections. And you will be the NUMBER ONE reason why they will delete these sections. You are the one who started the BG vs SFO topic am I right? So yeah, everyone remember Karma's name, he might be the reason why these sections are deleted. You think people hate you now? Keep bitching and you will see how the "Hate Karma" list skyrocket.

It is dumbass topics like this one that are so convincing to delete these sections. I know that if this topic were to get closed by another admin/mod, you would just go right ahead and start a new one -_-..

Obviously, some users of BG are still posting here so what are you getting all hyped up about? They said "PX forum sucks" yet they post here. It is none of our business what they do or what their opinions are about this forum so if they want to continue posting and bitching about how much this forum sucks, leave them be. I bet if their bitching crosses a line, they will be handled. But they never get accross that line.

You have pretty much annoyed a bunch of people with these type of topics "We need to fix this community", like if you were doing community service hours because of misconduct -_-. I can start a survey and about 95% of the people in this forum would vote "YES, you are annoying". Even some of your fellow mods/admins have been annoyed. They are just staying quiet, for some damn reason, to avoid problems/arguements with you. But keep at it, we might see some SFO history.

Enjoy what is given to you! Be greatful, not every teenager has a computer to join communities like this one and yet your bitching about making this community better. The only problem I see in this online community is ungreatful people like yourself making topics like this one.

[asshole]

I dislike you SSJ.

On topic:

How about instead of trying to make the forums better, we try to make the game better. The game is what attracts people, not the forum.
Oh damn, my son here made tha mose sense, so far.

[Necro2k2]

Meh, let me give my 2 cents in this ice machine....


Well from my perspective you people do need to change this forum. As many of you have heard this forum was about helping deal with the game's problems in servers, battle etc. This forum/community has grown to be more popular threwout the ages because of the game's drastic changes. Not to mention this is a FREE game, normally we would have to pay 50 dollars at walmart to play a game like this. You people shouldn't worry about the forum as much, but more on the game.

The game plays more then 99.9 percent of the forum's success. Hell without the game, this forum would be nothing, it would serve no purpose. If you people want things such as "Random Insanity" then go to other forums. Even though it may seem like they're taking away the fun of this forum, maybe we should just leave it boring and sappy as it was before the invasion. Anywayz, I think we should give our focus on the game more then this forum. We barely get an update as it is, our last one was on December we're now going to June.

If you people (admins blah blah) want less fights then just stop playing the "good" guy and just take out the damn sections. Stop making yourselfs old, and freaking delete the sections already. If you don't like what you see DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, stop whinning like little kids saying "guys please stop flaming". I say enough with the warnings and delete the damn sections already. You have seen the scum of the community, and trust me more is to come, so you decide.



Edited By Necro2k2 on 1115597091

[Dan Hibiki]

I got enough guys... many of you won't just care and look at it i probably will just be flamed for saying such things but i had to tell them. if you're interested in knowing the bottom of my mind then go on and read otherwise just get the hell out of here !

First i want to speak about the peple saying SFO sucks or SFO is gay... you guys are th eones that makes me mad the most, i mean come on you guys are th efirst ones to say it sucks cause there is nothing good hapenneing, but what you guys always end up forgetting is that its up to you to make it better not up to us ! i have enough of hearing this bullpoop. its all crap and you know it just like i do. i'm mad at you guys for saying such things its so stupid to say such things.

second, i got enough of you people telling me this place is all about info and bugs, and that is mostly for you mods... am i truly the only one to have noticed how this has become more then just a forum for info and bugs ? in th efirst place, if tmyapp and the others created the different sections then clearly it was for the users to enjoy their time here so explain me why do we have to tell them not to be happy coming here ? tell me why we should let things go off and not do anything cause back then (like 3 years ago) it was like that ? its so lame of you to think that. this has changed, and so should you had to as well ! this is a community and not a info forum anymore, it means a lot more to me then just a info site. we should be carefull of our members and not just telling them to get the hell out of here if they aren't happy with this. we should be more carefull of their feelings.

third, many peple here are coming here just for the heck of flaming and dissing others... respect is all that many of us ask for and all we got are stupid remarks on ourselves, i got enough of being a nobody ! i have enough of being the target of everything people say i got enough of being sued for saying a simple fact. i have enough of being told that even thou i was here for the last 3 years that i don't know a poop about SFO ! i have enough of being this, it hurts to be left behind just cause people think you're nothing compared to them. all i ask is to be respected.

TMyApp, i might not have understood how you felt about this the right way... but there is one thing i know, you didn't do this just for the fun of it, you did it for the people and if that is true then truly you know that we should be doing way more then just saying hi to the new comers !

i can't say i will leave, this place has been like a new family for me and i doubt i will leave it anytime soon. but i don't want it to fall either and we're already far down. why aren't we getting back up ? why are people so much against SFO yet coming back here for more, can't we just all get along and enjoy the ride on the forum ?

People it's up to us to put this place back up.
Post intelligently and stop bithcing at others or at the forum.
i hate people bitching at this family of mine !
To several of the people that replied to this topic, the community DOES need to be fixed. I haven't been here much for so long BECAUSE of the problems, problems which were not prevalent three or four years ago.

You feel my pain now. These are all problems that I dealt with until I quit being an admin of Senshukentaikai. No offense to anybody in particular here, but when the average age of forum-goers is pre/early teen, you'll be forced to deal with a lot of immaturity and, unfortunately, a lot of idiots and uncompromising rejects. That's one of the reasons I don't come here often anymore. <span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>The other is nobody will hold a decent conversation with me, and I'm typically ignored despite my colorful history here.</span>

Ruling over the forums and moderating takes a subtle touch. Do too much, and people will hate you and disrespect you, saying that you're tyrannical. And yes, I know this isn't a democracy here, but that's how you'll be viewed. Do too little, and you'll be viewed as ineffective or uncaring, and will not be respected.

As for SFO sucking... it's the best free online fighting game on the net. I can't say much for the current state of the game, as I haven't been able to play it for over two years as my computer that I can do such things on is rather old, but nothing will change the fact that it is the best free online fighter around. People hate on it? Don't let them play it. Their loss.

It's an inevitability that when a competitive scene forms around a fighting game, whether it be online, offline, free, based on fees, or whatever, there will be people who endlessly talk poop (pardon the French). There's been such people since the beginning of XMvSF online, and there always will be such people on into the future of SFO. You being a mod, you're just a bigger target for such people.

Games that develop enough of a community to require general discussion and such for an exchange of ideas, thoughts, and opinions ought to have such a section, as this one does. Those who somehow think that such people should have no outlet for discussion are the ones who need to re-examine the purpose of forums.

The sections in which flaming and arguments occur shouldn't be removed. That's just taking the easy and dumb way out, and making the flamers win. Stronger enforcing of the rules, such as using temp/permanent account/IP bans is one effective way to do it. Instead of seeing arguments, you'll see threads of people apologizing, trying to get themselves/their friend back on here, and they'll either learn a lesson, or get banned again. It'll always be a fight against flamers, but that doesn't mean you should just quit.

I'm all for this forum becoming a place for intelligent conversation, peaceful discussion, and so on, but there's a lot that must be done for the forums to become that way. Ban the jerks, enforce the rules (or make more) and stick in there. Might seem a little odd coming from me, after all the disagreements that we've had, but just because we've disagreed doesn't mean I hate you.

Rant over.

[_dmx_]

o_0 just ip ban the peeps

[Virtual Fighter]

That's not gangster.

[Dan Hibiki]

That's not gangster.
Who cares? If they disobey the rules, they deserve punishment.

[SSJKarma]

DAN HIBIKI, you're above shuko (nantuko joe) on my list, i mean you never really said anything bad about me, as in i didn't knew anything. surely you disagreed with me and that i like. it prooves you got an opinion on the matter which is something everyone should have.

but some people are simply thinking they know so much and they actually flame you because they think you think you know much more thne them so they have to argu and change the thing into a flaming contest. i might be like a mule and never change my views even if youg ot good arguments but it doesn't mean i dislike your views or even disregarded it. fact is i'm always open to suggestions, idea's and opinions. i mean the other way wouldn't tell me anything in life and that wouldn't be too good for a person.

anyway back to the forum itself... we're speaking the mods and admins actually, about the probability that we need be more strict because we weren't toomuch for now, but there are a few things that came out right now, we got too much job on our hands and eluding a new NWO wouldn't probably cut it since we have problem choosing between members. so we might speak of getting this forum back to its old state where only SFO related threads could exists !

i know it might seems cruel and non-sens... but the fact is we know how much flame, stupid threads in wrong sections and dissing about how we shouldn't have done that would actually come our ways. but we're pretty sure that if they are all in the same sections, we can deal with them knowing how much mods we are !

anyway... the past might never be our future, but it sbetter to use it as it hapenned and by it we shall reforge our forum the way it was meant to be. we just need to decide what's best for the community and i know much of you guys wants it with more control. the others who say we are too strict probably don't know what hapenned these last months and probably never noticed how much people have freedom of flaming and dissing others without getting any warnings or bans !

i think it would be better to have strickly SFO related topics then having a lot of non-SFO topics all in 3 different places, places which are never truly moderated cause of the endless stupidities that goes on in there !

let's be realistic, topics like "WHO ARE YOUR BEST MATCHES" compared to "THIS VERSUS THIS" threads are like way better to read.
that's where we stand and that's something we should have done a long time ago.
i know subjects and topics are hard to find. but if it stays SFO related it might become good.

as i said though, we are still int he discussion phase, but i think telling you we wish to change things around here is better then wait till its already too late, this way it makes our changes a bit more easier since we know what our members will think about the so called changes !

[Virtual Fighter]

Flaming? Are you kidding me?

Karma, i'm giving you an assignment. Give me one thread that was a debate thread that turned into a "big flaming contest" as you put it.

Because i've been in many, many, many debates, and not one has turned into a big "flaming" contest.

[XxEl_PeCaDoRxX]

Flaming? Are you kidding me?

Karma, i'm giving you an assignment. Give me one thread that was a debate thread that turned into a "big flaming contest" as you put it.

Because i've been in many, many, many debates, and not one has turned into a big "flaming" contest.
Greg's mother is fat.

[SSJKarma]

peca, that was useless to write. that is exactly what we try to stop peca !

virtual, all so called debate turned to flames !
i can say all of my thread meant to debate on different views including mines were all throwed back at me with flamings !
the DB vs SF thread back then almost turned to flame if not for a few mods back then it would have turned into it !
RELIGIONS threads were almost all turned to flames because people wouldn't let their views be turned down !

as i said virtual, in 2 years, ALL debates turned to flames and that all the true members of this community can testify and acknowledge what i'm saying !
BTW, i wasn't naming or pointing anyone in the above post, but i would only say that if the hat suits you then, take it !

Flaming? Are you kidding me?

Karma, i'm giving you an assignment. Give me one thread that was a debate thread that turned into a "big flaming contest" as you put it.

Because i've been in many, many, many debates, and not one has turned into a big "flaming" contest.
1) religion debate about 1 or 2 years ago
2) evolution debate
3) DBZvsSF debate
4) nearly every USA or bush debate

[Dan Hibiki]

I know that this may seem odd, but I'm available for moderating during all times of the day. I have no job currently, and won't likely have a job for a while, and I have the experience in moderating during the Senshukentaikai times. I'm willing to help if you and TMyApp will let me.

[blaze985]

peca, that was useless to write. that is exactly what we try to stop peca !

virtual, all so called debate turned to flames !
i can say all of my thread meant to debate on different views including mines were all throwed back at me with flamings !
the DB vs SF thread back then almost turned to flame if not for a few mods back then it would have turned into it !
RELIGIONS threads were almost all turned to flames because people wouldn't let their views be turned down !

as i said virtual, in 2 years, ALL debates turned to flames and that all the true members of this community can testify and acknowledge what i'm saying !
BTW, i wasn't naming or pointing anyone in the above post, but i would only say that if the hat suits you then, take it !
1) Peca was joking.

2) Debates involving you turn to flame mostly because so many people dislike you.

3) You saying ALL debate topics turn to flame is the equivalent of saying all Canadians are dumb. It isn't true. Therefore, using stereotypical comments to fabricate BS don't prove you right.

Since I don't come here too often, I can't vouch for debates here, but debates at BG don't typically become flame wars. VF made a debate about Eugenics. I don't recall that becoming a flame war. There was a debate about Eminem, and that didn't turn into flame. There was a debate about PSP/DS, and though flame entered it at times, it was never a flame war.

So, obviously, debate does not = flame war. Therefore, your comment about all debates becoming flame wars is not only false, but completely unthinkable.

[Virtual Fighter]

I was gonna post like a huge link post with all sorts of links and stuff proving that not all and practically just 1% of debates turn into flame wars, but blaze did a pretty good job.

BTW: nice to see you're still alive, blaze

[blaze985]

I'm here just for you, Greg. :)

[dominicankid098]

I know that this may seem odd, but I'm available for moderating during all times of the day. I have no job currently, and won't likely have a job for a while, and I have the experience in moderating during the Senshukentaikai times. I'm willing to help if you and TMyApp will let me.
Huge candidate right there. He has alot of experience in senshukentaikai and acted very fairly.



Edited By dominicankid098 on 1115665462

[dominicankid098]

DAN HIBIKI, you're above shuko (nantuko joe) on my list, i mean you never really said anything bad about me, as in i didn't knew anything. surely you disagreed with me and that i like. it prooves you got an opinion on the matter which is something everyone should have.

but some people are simply thinking they know so much and they actually flame you because they think you think you know much more thne them so they have to argu and change the thing into a flaming contest. i might be like a mule and never change my views even if youg ot good arguments but it doesn't mean i dislike your views or even disregarded it. fact is i'm always open to suggestions, idea's and opinions. i mean the other way wouldn't tell me anything in life and that wouldn't be too good for a person.

anyway back to the forum itself... we're speaking the mods and admins actually, about the probability that we need be more strict because we weren't toomuch for now, but there are a few things that came out right now, we got too much job on our hands and eluding a new NWO wouldn't probably cut it since we have problem choosing between members. so we might speak of getting this forum back to its old state where only SFO related threads could exists !

i know it might seems cruel and non-sens... but the fact is we know how much flame, stupid threads in wrong sections and dissing about how we shouldn't have done that would actually come our ways. but we're pretty sure that if they are all in the same sections, we can deal with them knowing how much mods we are !

anyway... the past might never be our future, but it sbetter to use it as it hapenned and by it we shall reforge our forum the way it was meant to be. we just need to decide what's best for the community and i know much of you guys wants it with more control. the others who say we are too strict probably don't know what hapenned these last months and probably never noticed how much people have freedom of flaming and dissing others without getting any warnings or bans !

i think it would be better to have strickly SFO related topics then having a lot of non-SFO topics all in 3 different places, places which are never truly moderated cause of the endless stupidities that goes on in there !

let's be realistic, topics like "WHO ARE YOUR BEST MATCHES" compared to "THIS VERSUS THIS" threads are like way better to read.
that's where we stand and that's something we should have done a long time ago.
i know subjects and topics are hard to find. but if it stays SFO related it might become good.

as i said though, we are still int he discussion phase, but i think telling you we wish to change things around here is better then wait till its already too late, this way it makes our changes a bit more easier since we know what our members will think about the so called changes !
Sorry for double posting. I agree with everything Karma had said completely. Good job for the nwo/admin team on finding an answer to all this flaming. It is about time. You people should start taking actions in the release of DWX. That way, everyone would be more involved with DWX.

[asshole]

Necro: Go die holmes. You ain't takin my R.I away from me! Atleast I hoPe you wouldn't.. ;[!

Dan Hibiki: Fk this yo, if this homie becomes a Mod, that'd just be unfair to half of tha world! Or something more Dramatic like this!


And Karma, let me ask you one thing. Did you make this because you WANTED RESPECT, or did you make this becasue you wanted to clear some of this useless ish from here?
Like i've said before man, no one is actually DISOBEYING any BIG rules, or makin' a big deal out of anything that should affect anyone in a big way! So why tha hell are you runnin' around trying to clean uP tha Place!? And if you actually DO think that this Place is dirty and needs cleaning, then why don't you worry about tha other sections that NEED Moderating? Tha "Non-SFO Sections" didn't even have Moderators or Admins, until I got in a big fight with lefty about that! They DEFINETLY are tha least cared sections fromt ha Admins, so why you makin' a big deal out of we act in THIS Part of tha forum?

Truly.. what I think is that.. you are a Proud Moderator, and you want to be resPected like one too. When you come to sections such as R.I, and no one resPects you, you get Pissed off like a bad villian and start whining.
That's exactly what I... think!

[asshole]

DAN HIBIKI, you're above shuko (nantuko joe) on my list, i mean you never really said anything bad about me, as in i didn't knew anything. surely you disagreed with me and that i like. it prooves you got an opinion on the matter which is something everyone should have.
NOT SORRY for double Posting, and see Karma?
That's EXACTLY what tha fk i'm talkin about!
OH WOW.. I should've read your Post before I Posted mine to Prove ya!

[Virtual Fighter]

Karma: The reason we don't respect you is because half the time you're calling us flamers and the other half you're debating right along with us, yet don't lable yourself a flamer, and when you're not doing that you're contredicting yourself, and when you're not doing that you're not getting that:

You need to earn respect, not deserve it.

I don't respect alot of political figures because they havn't done anything to earn it from me. Just because you're in a position of power doesn't deam you anything.


Second, I say give these sectionsmods which actually go to these sections.

It's like when britain conquered africa. They had the british be there, set up their government and have them run it their selves.
Things later fell apart because it was a fliped up situtation to begin with, but that's becideds the point.

Point of story, you can't run a system of people which you have no idea how they work. Give a special mod position to someone who is familiar with RI, familiar with this section, familiar with the GFX section (Even though digital~fighter promised it to me and hasn't delivered yet), and possibly someonoen who is familiar with the links.

That's why the britisih system of coloniaslism was so successful.

[iTALY]

Asshole is right..

Instead of demanding respect, Karma, try earning it.

Many of the current NWO's are respected because they earned our respect.


VF: What's the code for your font colour?



Edited By iTALY on 1115667351

[Virtual Fighter]

#961309 put into the control panel color setting.

[Necro2k2]

[color=#000000]Apparently Mr.Karma just want's some respect. Okay, let's see from past expirence how normal members gained respect. Here's a guy who's respected till this day, and for what? For being a champion in the very game we used to call "

[Dan Hibiki]

Dan Hibiki: Fk this yo, if this homie becomes a Mod, that'd just be unfair to half of tha world! Or something more Dramatic like this!
Um, why would that be unfair for me to become mod? I've been around a long time, I'm respected, and I'm typically nice, and I was fair when I was an admin on Senshuk. Certainly, I made the organized insanity section on Senshuk (which was quickly removed after it became apparent it wasn't wanted), but we all make mistakes.

It was just an offer, anyways... I don't know TMyApp that well, so I doubt that it will actually happen.



Edited By Dan Hibiki on 1115670976

[Necro2k2]

Um, why would that be unfair for me to become mod? I've been around a long time, I'm respected, and I'm typically nice, and I was fair when I was an admin on Senshuk. Certainly, I made the organized insanity section on Senshuk (which was quickly removed after it became apparent it wasn't wanted), but we all make mistakes.

It was just an offer, anyways... I don't know TMyApp that well, so I doubt that it will actually happen.
I like you as much as the next guy but I see you as the type that'll be like the rest of the moderators, inactive. How many time's a day do you play sfo? I don't think we need another moderator who's just gonna sit around and play with the forum all day. With all due respect, I simply don't see how you qualify. Don't get me wrong your one of the best admins I've seen when it comes to "forumage" but your just not going to cut it in the game.



Edited By Necro2k2 on 1115671132

[Dan Hibiki]

Now that I have a PC around that CAN play SFO, I'll be on daily. I wasn't before because my PC only averages 3.333 frames per second in the game. In fact, I'm getting on to the game now, so if you want to chat with me, log on. I'm DanHibiki on there.

Edit: for some reason, my IE can't get to www.streetfighteronline.com right now, so I can't get onto the game. Perhaps later today then.



Edited By Dan Hibiki on 1115671683

[Necro2k2]

Edit: for some reason, my IE can't get to www.streetfighteronline.com right now, so I can't get onto the game. Perhaps later today then.
Lol, that's so ironic, I'll take your word for it.

[Saijin_Ryu]

Woah, this place has really gone to the sh1ts.

*Wonders why he's even posting here again*

This place is being built up to much, GAME forums are meant to be a hell more relaxed then this. But theirs alot of moronic people trying to order everything when the forum hits a slump it usually sorts itself out.

Anyway, enjoy the pointlessness here. Oh and if anyone plays CSS that knows me, give me a PM and i'll get back to you.

[Abdoun_bacK]

Woah, this place has really gone to the sh1ts.
but havnt you noticed all the vets are comming back

[Dan Hibiki]

But theirs alot of moronic people trying to order everything when the forum hits a slump it usually sorts itself out.
Senshukentaikai never sorted itself out.

[KidKrazyShit]

But theirs alot of moronic people trying to order everything when the forum hits a slump it usually sorts itself out.
Senshukentaikai never sorted itself out.
man speaks the truth.

[EvilAkuma]

[color=#000080:post_uid6]I respect you SSJKarma. Look at you, working to get this place up and running like old times. I bet you, if the Admin Staff didn't add more section, then all people that shows off GFX, make threads games and other things that doesn't relate to sfo. They wouldn't be here or post often. They would just make tournament or post problem on sfo. I'll just use 1 as an example, VF i have yet to see you post anything that related to sfo. I mean, you post only at GFX section, R.I, Links, and General (doesn't relate to sfo). It apply to all people that yet have posted above the general (doesn't relate to sfo). I might be wrong, but i yet haven't seen a post about on section that relate to SFO. (Don't get mad if I use you).

So many people just comes to bitch over here cuz there not getting what they want. How hard is it to go read the rules and obey them. So easy to follow, I yet don't see them hard to follow. I respect MOD/Admin/NWO/VIP/Member/####z (if you seen me in sfo bitching at ya. Just to play around with ya so ya can pump up ur anger and release it on me. :biggrin: )

Some people don't obey the rules when there made. And yet, you breaken them and you haven't gotten in trouble. Once Warmor made that thread about advertising forum. Some member still posted and link to there forum. I even like the update Warmor made about "what ur excuse". You have time to read our post, but you got no time to read rules. :dozingoff:

I know that we all can't get along. But I'm part of a family like SSJKarma and other member that consider this as family of SFO. When I heard about this place getting shut down. I didn't know what to do. Till TMyApp link us to here. This is when I become a family

So that all I have to say.

Keep up the work SSJ getting it like OLD SKOOLS[/color:post_uid6]

[blanka09]

I've lost track of the purpose of this topic.

[dominicankid098]

Man the pacers better win. I hate detroit.

Oh and about this subject, I really don't care anymore. I don't see you doing anything SSJ. I am planning out my tournament which I will email soon to tmyapp. I remember a time TarkanX told me I am not capable of running a tournament like Zing79's tournament, by myself. Time to prove him wrong. That will be my 2 cents in contributing to the forum and game.

What are your 2 cents? Even VF contributed more than you have with his "SFO CLASSIC" tournament.

[EvilAkuma]

The topic is that he's tire of people bitching about sfo. Saying SFO is gay, people flamming, complaining about rules. Also, If you don't like this place, then he want them to leave, because he doesn't want to leave. Also he believe that he's not getting respect. Which i respect just like TMyApp respect him and other MOD/Admin/NWO

[Virtual Fighter]

Man the pacers better win. I hate detroit.

Oh and about this subject, I really don't care anymore. I don't see you doing anything SSJ. I am planning out my tournament which I will email soon to tmyapp. I remember a time TarkanX told me I am not capable of running a tournament like Zing79's tournament, by myself. Time to prove him wrong. That will be my 2 cents in contributing to the forum and game.

What are your 2 cents? Even VF contributed more than you have with his "SFO CLASSIC" tournament.
I made like 3, master of fists 1 and 2 and SFO classics.

Mind you I had no idea what I was doing.

:alien:

[Abdoun_bacK]

I've lost track of the purpose of this topic.
sorry...but.....LOL

[Virtual Fighter]

You're all a bunch of sheep. Bahhhh.

[marvel911]

Wait, what?

[asshole]

I've lost track of the purpose of this topic.
Then.. read my Posts.

Yo Karma, where you at man?
I said somethign to you on Page 5, get back at me!

[blanka09]

You don't get me.. I AM reading... but what everyone is saying right now isn't WHY our friend Karma started this topic.

[asshole]

Damn fool.. that's why I asked him that!
GRR!
NO READING!

[blanka09]

aaah... respect ?? .. is that what you're referring me to ??

[Restavega]

All the Vets appear to be coming back because of DWX.

It seems Counter Strike has alot of the vets whipped, to say the least. I mean... not setting much of an example as a vet to run off until an exciting event comes along... that's to say the game isn't exciting enough day to day for them. Tsk tsk...

btw, one more reason this forum has gone down hill is too many times mods throw in their two cents in a topic and lock it so they have the last word to keep from being outspoken by another member... for example Blanka09 who does it more often then any other mod. That is a most childish thing to do especially on a forum where every member's opinion counts. To throw in the last word and to lock the topic is the easy way out. It's like the mods putting their hands over their ears and going "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!! I CANT HEAR YOU! BLAH BLAH BLAH!" Childish indeed.

and also, too many times Mods "pair up" with their favorite members and you can see the biast behavior. What one person will be banned for another will do daily. This forum lacks fairness.



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[blanka09]

See... I personally hate to get into personal altercations over things that really don't matter. What happened in the topic I locked was simple. You reared ur head there for no apparent reason but trouble... and his case would be settled. The fact remains that you and Nferno666 had a game and you cheaped him out. Like every other normal player he confronted you about ur methods.. and you started with the noble act on him.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the only mod/admin that LIKED you then was now against you, and now every chance you get to "hit and run" you take. If you hate the system so much, why even BOTHER to be here ?? It's alarming that most of you complain about everything going downhill, yet not a day freaking passes by without you going to ur browser to type http://www.streetfighteronline.com and now you're forcing me to reply here with words I do NOT wish to post.

I beg of you, do NOT start any other crap... cause I know you're talking about Saijin_Ryu who came back here to reply for to the Maximumspider.com topic and happened to see this topic, and gave his 4 and a half cents. Now you come here to make degrading remarks to him and then he'll come back and then we'll all go into a flame war.. and then we'll close the topic... and then they'll all sayyy.. oh looky the mods are closing the topics and saying Blah blah ... I "cant" hear you.

The fact that I don't even see the reason to post in this topic, makes me more annoyed at the fact that I have to reply because of some thoughtless post. If you had another opinion in the topic THAT I closed because it states in the rules of the forum, that the mods can CLOSE any topic they see fit; why not be a man and state ur opinion asking me to let you post.. THEN come here and judge me like a maggot.

Do you even know why we have mods/admins in this forum ?? They're there so that we can have "order" in the forum. Order that we certainly lack due to our lacklustre attitude to strict punishment... but to let things slide here and there. As a result topics like these resulting into unwanted stupidity.

The role of making the forum as a whole more livier, is the job of the WHOLE forum, not just the administration. Not once... NOT ONCE has any user sent us a private message suggesting on how to make the forum "better". Abdoun_BacK sent us a message on something to spice up the game... but we haven't even come to a conlcusion to make it official... however, all we get is "OMG THIS USER SHOULD BE BANNED.. HE DID THIS or THAT".

And now you expect us to perform magic ?? ... *sigh* ... you go find out what you can do for the community and quit looking for what the community can do for you!

I pray that God would make this the last time I make myself dabble into topics/scenarios/situations like these; for if not for the tons of things I have to do, kicking ppl out of the servers for nothing (I'm j/k... for something wrong; before another topic rears its ugly head about mods kicking "wrongly" out of servers :biggrin: ) is another thing I could spend my time doing... rather than argueing fruitlessly.

Good night.



Edited By blanka09 on 1115704400

[dominicankid098]

Everyone leave poor wittle blanka alone. Stop picking on him! =)

[blanka09]

I know .. =( ... wait.. that's not right... heeeey!! YOU PHATHEAD!

[dominicankid098]

And I quote:

I pray that God would make this the last time I make myself dabble into topics/scenarios/situations like these

Haha, look who came back. =)

[blanka09]

What's happening between you and I is purely random and fictional. In english, it never really happened :biggrin:

[Restavega]

See... I personally hate to get into personal altercations over things that really don't matter. What happened in the topic I locked was simple. You reared ur head there for no apparent reason but trouble... and his case would be settled. The fact remains that you and Nferno666 had a game and you cheaped him out. Like every other normal player he confronted you about ur methods.. and you started with the noble act on him.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the only mod/admin that LIKED you then was now against you, and now every chance you get to "hit and run" you take. If you hate the system so much, why even BOTHER to be here ?? It's alarming that most of you complain about everything going downhill, yet not a day freaking passes by without you going to ur browser to type http://www.streetfighteronline.com and now you're forcing me to reply here with words I do NOT wish to post.

I beg of you, do NOT start any other crap... cause I know you're talking about Saijin_Ryu who came back here to reply for to the Maximumspider.com topic and happened to see this topic, and gave his 4 and a half cents. Now you come here to make degrading remarks to him and then he'll come back and then we'll all go into a flame war.. and then we'll close the topic... and then they'll all sayyy.. oh looky the mods are closing the topics and saying Blah blah ... I "cant" hear you.

The fact that I don't even see the reason to post in this topic, makes me more annoyed at the fact that I have to reply because of some thoughtless post. If you had another opinion in the topic THAT I closed because it states in the rules of the forum, that the mods can CLOSE any topic they see fit; why not be a man and state ur opinion asking me to let you post.. THEN come here and judge me like a maggot.

Do you even know why we have mods/admins in this forum ?? They're there so that we can have "order" in the forum. Order that we certainly lack due to our lacklustre attitude to strict punishment... but to let things slide here and there. As a result topics like these resulting into unwanted stupidity.

The role of making the forum as a whole more livier, is the job of the WHOLE forum, not just the administration. Not once... NOT ONCE has any user sent us a private message suggesting on how to make the forum "better". Abdoun_BacK sent us a message on something to spice up the game... but we haven't even come to a conlcusion to make it official... however, all we get is "OMG THIS USER SHOULD BE BANNED.. HE DID THIS or THAT".

And now you expect us to perform magic ?? ... *sigh* ... you go find out what you can do for the community and quit looking for what the community can do for you!

I pray that God would make this the last time I make myself dabble into topics/scenarios/situations like these; for if not for the tons of things I have to do, kicking ppl out of the servers for nothing (I'm j/k... for something wrong; before another topic rears its ugly head about mods kicking "wrongly" out of servers :biggrin: ) is another thing I could spend my time doing... rather than argueing fruitlessly.

Good night.
First of all, I never said I hate the system. I said I dislike the administration but don't consider yourselves the system. So please, don't put words in my mouth.

Secondly, no one is forcing you to post here. You are forcing yourself to post here, Blanka. How many more times are you gonna say "I don't wanna post here/I'm never posting here again/I don't wanna do this but". The act is old already and it is clear you do wish to post here and you will post here again (call me a psychic).

And what I said about Saijin Ryu I saw the same instance with another vet. When Saijin brought up how if anyone wants to join him in Counter Strike to PM him, I immediately remembered another vet who quit on the SFO community to play just that very game who is suddenly popping up for the event as well. So, it wasn't a personal attack but a general presence I was pointing out.

In the Xtremedark topic in the General section here (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5775) the fact is whether my Akuma strategy is credited or not, Nferno will do something in a fit of rage when it comes to losing. I didn't use any glitch to beat him therefore the only reason he had to shun me from his SFO tech support was to losing - not a glitch. Only this time he has the glitch as his excuse for going bonkers on Xtremedark. I mean, can I beat Nferno and not give him a rematch when he wants one without any repercussions? People were suggesting that he wouldn't do such a thing to Xtremedark based on losing so I posted what happened to me by Nferno to show what he is capable of. But instead of snapping at LocalMotion for pulling the topic offtopic you bark at me, Blanka09, when I was posting signifigant facts. This is how I know you're onesided Blanka and you have poor judgement... and when someone with poor judgement is in control somewhat that can bring down the morale of a forum. You're an example of the problems this forum endures.

"I pray that God would make this the last time I make myself dabble into topics/scenarios/situations like these" -Blanka09

I pray you will make this the last time you dabble in topics like these and I also pray you don't repeat the same phrase again and again... but that in itself would be a waste of time.

[dominicankid098]

Man, someone close this topic. People go way off topic all of a sudden talking about SFO strategies, and questioning someone rights as a mod.

Like it or not, this is how TMyApp run things. And there are reasons for that. If you don't like how things are ran here, then don't come here. No one is forcing you to come to this forum nor are you paying anything to be here. It is topics like these that makes everything moderated the way they are. And it is topic like these that will be the reason why these sections get deleted.

[blanka09]

Aye ^^^

And weighing the situation, I would have to sayy, I shouldn't have even replied back then. The reason I replied was based on currect emotion status.. and the need to "fight back" when picked on. Should have listened to my master :biggrin:

Anyway, I've come to realize the hard way that the more sense you try to make out of an unnecessary necessities (I know.. sounds wierd, but work with me :biggrin: ) ... the more unrealistic, those who argue with you, would make their impending cases seem... thus, one must look to himself and note that "the more wrong you find in the other man, the more you should look inwardly and correct the "right" you see in yourself ." (got that from a Buddhist monk)

And LancerPX, SSJKarma opened the topic, I can close it... but I'd like for him to do it by himself... since we've all strayed from what he wanted to say "which.. was the bottom line of his mind" ... quite wierd... but nevertheless ... that's why we're at this make shift status quo.

We would definitely not reach a standing conclusion... but one can get a quote from George Frederick Handel, that if all doesn't stand well, "... He shall reign forever and ever" :biggrin:



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[Dark_Paladin_X]

Man, someone close this topic. People go way off topic all of a sudden talking about SFO strategies, and questioning someone rights as a mod.

Like it or not, this is how TMyApp run things. And there are reasons for that. If you don't like how things are ran here, then don't come here. No one is forcing you to come to this forum nor are you paying anything to be here. It is topics like these that makes everything moderated the way they are. And it is topic like these that will be the reason why these sections get deleted.
(this is probably not necesary)

this guy is right. I fully lost track of what we're suppose to be taling about. I see off-topic stuff, flamming, discussing things that have nothing to do with the matter.

But yes, when SSJ gets here, he should close it.

[Virtual Fighter]

OMG I used to hate restevega now I sorta like him.

???

[asshole]

OYG! I used to hXte you, oh wait,.. I STILL hXte you!
PHAGGG!

[SSJKarma]

First of all, i wonder who closed this topic and for which reasons ?

second, i wish to remember you guys that this wasn't a DEBATE as many of you thought it was, it was mainly just a discussion about a guy who has enough of hearing bad things about this game and community !

now that this is said. i will say that i can't believe how poopty this thread became in only 2 days and that simply prooved that many people are here only to get troubles for they seems to enjoy troubles.

now to answer those who asked questions...
ASSHOLE, nope i didn't want respect, at least not for me, but for TMYAPP himself, think of it this way, everytime a guy says SFO is GAY and STUPID and that it shouldn't ever have been, how does tmyapp takes this seeing how much efforts he puts in this ? thus i had enough of hearing all this crap going on lately. respect for myself ? hell i forgot about that like 1 years ago when i noticed that whatever i did i couldn't get the attention i was trying to get thus i have stopped working on anything since it never left me with anything, but ironically enough when i became a mod i got all the attention i could ever wanted !

so respect is far from being what i wanted in doing this, all i was saying was that i had enough of hearing bullpoop about SFO, this community is like a familly for me so saying its stupid and has no purposes is like insulting me directly thus the why i seem angry all the times.

Blanka09, i created this topic for the sole purpose of people understanding what i was all about emotionnally. but it seems that many people just don't care how emotionnal people can get and they start dissing and all. thinking that it will make them cooler then the others !

as for the one who closed the topic, i would only say, don't... there are good convo going on here and there are only a few people who diss cause all they want is me going down for they dislike me. but that i don't care. as long as i get a good conversation this topic is considered worth it. at least for my part !

VF: think what you want, you want to flame go on, but not in here please.
BTW nantuko answered your question as well, all topics turns to flame and unlike what blaze said, it wasn't all because of me. the DB thread turned to flame not cause of me but because ####s started to flame the people discussing it. not agreeing is one thing but flaming the others is another. and flaming shouldn't be at all !

ok back on topics...
if you guys don't like this place then i wonder why you're all coming back here.
i mean if i dislike a place i don't go there anymore. its as simple as that, but nope, many people comes here saying SFO is stupid and all but they are coming again and again playign the game and all, yet they say its stupid so i still wonder why are they like that !

sorry f i took so long to write back i had so much to do these last days i just couldn't get on !
anyway people try and be on topic, off topic we can deal with but it just goes off topic everytimes !

i just want people to understand how much effort is send into this community and having people diss and flame the comunity is just awefullly hurting my feelings.

PS:
Since when are we obligated to do tourneys to be respected and or get attentions ?

[Virtual Fighter]

What the hell are you talking about?

WHERE have I flamed in this entire thread? Point it out to me now, because I've told you, others have told you and even what other MODS AND ADMINS HAVE TOLD YOU, ARGUIING IS NOT FLAMING.

[dominicankid098]

Oh for god sakes SOMEONE DELETE THIS TOPIC. Damn it is so pathetic when you drag something so little and make it into such a big deal. God damn it, GET A MOTHERflipING LIFE.

Jesus, you people are going to make me start cussing.

[Virtual Fighter]

Oh for god sakes SOMEONE DELETE THIS TOPIC. Damn it is so pathetic when you drag something so little and make it into such a big deal. God damn it, GET A MOTHERflipING LIFE.

Jesus, you people are going to make me start cussing.
You've posted in this thread 9 times and yet scream "GET A LIFE"?

Take your own goddamn advice.

[DX Zero]

Virtual Fighter don't start flaming...

[Virtual Fighter]

I won't start flaming. Good wording.

[DX Zero]

Virch?

[DX Zero]

and with that said the night shall end as so will the Flame
or is it...

[dominicankid098]

Nah, I decided to delete my flame. =)