X-men 2: the movie - Story and characters...

[SSJKarma]

the usual X-Men 1 will be there !

cyclops, storm, wolverine, rogue, jean, charles xavier, magneto

2 new mutant will be recruited...
GAMBIT and NIGHTCRAWLER

the movie will be about mr. garich (the one who mystique took form from) is ploting against the mutants and is making sentinels to pursut them !

yes, the gang will be against SENTINELS in the second one !
and magneto is getting out of jail !

those are facts !
taken from www.cinema.com
they do not put FAKE history !

go and the trailer, it's good... but we don't see the new mutants !

[Venture]

:D l :0 Did i hear Gambit ? then there is no way im gonna miss that movie, man ! Karma Thx for the news !!! :)

[QUIET_KILLER]

:D :laugh: I have to see that movie I liked the first 1. So I know will love this 1*Yes!!!! :) :alien:

[princevegetam]

that still sounds pretty stupid, the main reason is the villain. the sentinels are pretty cool, but that mr.garich guy sounds boring. i'd prefer someone more powerful, like apocalypse or onslaught.

[dr.evil]

x men two comeing out cool :alien: and gambits ganna be in it even better :D :eh: and when is it come in out ???

[lordgrobyc']

If magneto and onslaught joined together they would be unstoppable. Remember in the first Xmen movie...Magneto almost took out the entire Xmen good guys. With onslaught on his side they would be unstoppable.

[princevegetam]

um... you do realize that onslaught is a fusion of magneto and dr.xavier, and that he is evil and works with no one else. he stole magneto and xavier's body for his own and tried to destroy all mutants.

[lordgrobyc']

um... you do realize that onslaught is a fusion of magneto and dr.xavier, and that he is evil and works with no one else. he stole magneto and xavier's body for his own and tried to destroy all mutants.
oh!!! well that explains everthing...why they look kinda look alike. Thnx Vegeetam for pointing that out to me!!!

[SSJKarma]

vegetam: you say that, but did you know that in the serie it was that MR gayrich that actually was using the senator kelly so he could accept the project called SENTINEL, so he can get rid of those annoying little mutant ?

* mr. gayrich bio's from the first movie *
he was the one besides the senator kelly, giving him advice on what he could be to get more popular. like saying that he could make something world wide...

later it was reavealed that mystique had killed him long ago and took his place aside the senator. but it seems that mr gayrich has survived and now he is more eager to get his projects to become reality !

GAMBIT, NIGHTCRAWLER, ICEMAN, PYRO, JUBILEE

GAMBIT = sure he will be there... reason they give, he was in the original x-men team so he cannot saty out of all this

NIGHTCRAWLER = i don't know why but they prefer him then BEAST

ICEMAN = he was in the first, why doesn't put him in the second !

PYRO = like iceman, he was in the first one... why wouldn't he be in the second !

JUBILEE = like pyro and iceman... thou her scene had been cut off from the big screen and only appear on tape and DVD

the movie is suppose to get out for...
***drum roll***

5 may 2003


edit:
before you ask, where did i saw PYRO, ICEMAN and JUBILEE in the first movie ?

here is the scene...
rogue is sat in a class room and there is that kid in front of her who put in a lighter in his palm then light it up and control the fire and transform it into a fireball...

iceman is sat at the right of rogue and when he see the fireball he transform it into a ball of ice. making pyro lose control over it and throw it off on the ground, then storm yell at him for disturbing the class...

jubilee is sat on the left of rogue and ask her if the rumors were thru about the guy who had claws coming out of his hands ? (that scene has been removed from the big screen and was only been seen in the 10minutes of added footage at the end of the VHS cassette or on the DVD)

[Lordalmar2]

Sounds like it will be a good movie, so I will have to go and see it, or wait for it to be put on video.

[Kingryu1]

it sounds cool. but i have to wait longer, cause i live in england. :( :p

[princevegetam]

mr.garich is human he doesn't have any abilities. and that sucks. onslaught/apocalypse can easily crush the x-men and cause a whole lot of destruction while doing it. mr.garich has to rely on his little tin pets to help him. who would you perfer? onslaught/apocalypse or mr.garich

[Kingryu1]

watching the sentinals in action would be cool!! but i would prefer onslaught and apocylypse :) :p

[Jhteck29]

Man, the main thing that sucks about X2 is that there are no ggod additions to the enemies. What, sabertooth and toad can't come back? Tooth only got hit by an optic blast and toad only by lightning. (I really did like Toad as an enemy). Ok, so sentinels got added. What about the Blob? Psylocke? JUGGERNAUT for cripes sake!!!! The emenies have truly taken a hit in the next movie. Lets hope the new X-Men will compensate for this.

[princevegetam]

yep, yep, it would be WONDERFUL to see juggernaut or one of those big powerhouse villains(e.g. omega red).

[SSJKarma]

first = juggernaught isn't a bad guy ! he is professor X brother and only want's what wolverines want... SOME PEACE for himself ! he destroy only when he's angry (that happen a lot) !

second = gyrich in the serie maked the sentinels with the help of another scientist... NO ONE is perfect you know, they one big mistakes and that was making MASTER MOLD ! onslaught and apocalypse... that wouldn't really happen, why ? they have ideal that aren't compatible so they would fight each other ! it's the same as saying that Professor X can allied with Shuma gorath. it's just not compatibles !

third = sentinels are already one hell of a bad guy to defeat, so why getting them all killed by adding apoc, or onslaught ? then again, if prof. X and magneto allied to defeat the sentinels, they cannot be onslaught !

fourth = THIS MOVIE WILL ROCK WHAEVER YOU SAY ! why ? because the first one was real good (even thoo the chars had different story's then the comics) so the second one will prove to be a very better movie if they really put on NIGHTCRAWLER and SENTINELs.

but you got your right of saying what you said, but DON'T GO AND SAY XMEN SUCK ! cause it's not ! not targeting anyone ok !

[dontmesswitme]

well that's pretty nice!

i suggest an animated version would be better

[ant_the_whore]

this movie sounds pretty mad

but i would prefer onslaught or apocylypse

anyway its gonna be one hell of a movie anyway with gambit in it

[princevegetam]

first = juggernaught isn't a bad guy ! he is professor X brother and only want's what wolverines want... SOME PEACE for himself ! he destroy only when he's angry (that happen a lot) !

second = gyrich in the serie maked the sentinels with the help of another scientist... NO ONE is perfect you know, they one big mistakes and that was making MASTER MOLD ! onslaught and apocalypse... that wouldn't really happen, why ? they have ideal that aren't compatible so they would fight each other ! it's the same as saying that Professor X can allied with Shuma gorath. it's just not compatibles !

third = sentinels are already one hell of a bad guy to defeat, so why getting them all killed by adding apoc, or onslaught ? then again, if prof. X and magneto allied to defeat the sentinels, they cannot be onslaught !

fourth = THIS MOVIE WILL ROCK WHAEVER YOU SAY ! why ? because the first one was real good (even thoo the chars had different story's then the comics) so the second one will prove to be a very better movie if they really put on NIGHTCRAWLER and SENTINELs.

but you got your right of saying what you said, but DON'T GO AND SAY XMEN SUCK ! cause it's not ! not targeting anyone ok !
okay, i did not say that i wanted onslaught/apocalypse together, the resulting plot wouldn't really make sense. and the first movie was not "good". despite the fact it's the best marvel movie so far(spiderman was ####), i still think it's x-men isn't too much better. x-men is an action film, not one of those oscar winners with complex plots and good acting. if it's an action film, we need to see a good amount of action. the first x-men movie didn't deliver that. and juggernaut is evil, he robs banks and trashes buildings. he wants peace? that's true, but his way of "getting the peace" is violent and unjust. that makes him evil. it's just like green peace and their radical ideas. their ideas aren't evil, but sometimes they go too far trying to get the attention of the government.

[SSJKarma]

oh, i stop !

you're just too stuborn for me and you think you always have the truth so i just stop arguing with you...

by the way, you talk about mr garich who is just a human, but did you know that juggernaught is actually a simple human that uses a gem to get his power ?

[princevegetam]

yes i do know that, but he still has power beyond normal humans.

[SSJKarma]

but just like mr gayrich, he need somethings to get it !

that was my point !

[princevegetam]

well, sentinels are nothing compared to juggernaut/onslaught/apocalypse.

[DarkOmega]

I should be better than the first one but u wont know till u watch it :p

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[Jhteck29]

lol, karma, vegetam, calm down! It's only a movie/comic series you're arguing about. There's no reason to start getting mad at each other.

[SSJKarma]

someone is mad ? :D

we were just arguing about the fact that he tells that it's gonna be boring if it's a human who is the big boss in the movie !

but i must say that even simple HUMAN can defeat the x-men's !

[DarkKilla]

cool i watching this movie but y didnt cinema.com email me cuz im a email user with it

[DarkKilla]

and did u say mr.GAYrich so hes gay and hes rich now thats cool

[princevegetam]

but i must say that even simple HUMAN can defeat the x-men's !
???

please explain to me the meaning of your illogical statement

[Venture]

:D Ppl know that X-men = fiction right ?? no X-men is real...so howz there a topic of Humans beating up X-men ?? ??? Karma ..we arent fighting, eh ? just asking a question !! :)

[SSJKarma]

let just say that no MUTANT can survive a bazooka that had been well placed ! :D

GUNs, the best invention for those who lack strenght !

[princevegetam]

:hmmm:

[SSJKarma]

*** UPDATE UPDATE ***
has of now, the original cast from X-MEN 1 will ALL be there. as IAN MCKELLAN said himself on his web site. yes he has his own web site and give sometimes INSIDE from the movie set ! (IAN MCKELLAN web site (http://mckellan.com))

cast of X-MEN 2...

GOOD GUY
Charles Xavier (original member)
Wolverine (original member)
Jean Grey (original member)
Storm (original member)
Cyclops (original member)
Rogue (original member)
ICEMAN (student) *only signify that they were there in the academy as students and we saw them at some point in the first movie!
kitty pride (student)
Jubilee (student)
Pyro (student)
Beast (new comer)
Gambit (new comer)
Nightcrawler (new commer)

BAD GUY
Magneto (original bad guy)
Sabertooth (original bad guy)
Toad (original bad guy)
Mystique (original bad guy)

non-confirmed chars
william stryker (i don't even know who this is)
senator Kelly (on McKellan.com, mckellan focuse us on the fact that magneto in the first movie said:"are you sure you saw what you saw ?") so this is an inside of the return of the senator as a new mutant ! we all know that there is numerus mutant that don't have SOLID form... example: SANDMAN and HYDROMAN...
lady deathstrike (would make sens since wolverine has gone to find his past at the end of the first movie)
colosus (i don't even know why he would be there, it makes no sens, but a certain wrestler has said in a magasine that he auditionned for the role in X-MEN 2)

i don't know those so iu can't say if they are true or not !
siryn
jason 143
president McKena
Jones
Lyman


as for the PLOT of the movie...
it is still a mysterie and IAN MCKELLAN has order to not divuldge anything that could tell the PLOT on his web site ! 20th century fox keep the story for themself until the movie gets out !

3 PLOT are known as of now...
The sentinels attack
The legacy virus...
Lady deathstrike and his mens...

the first 2 are more than just rumors... the third one is almost certain not to be included...

the legacy virus is a virus that kills only mutants and the X-MEN race against the clock to stop that virus !

The sentinels are made to destroy or capture mutants. the X-MEN try and defeat those machines !

no one knows what will really happen in that movie, but it is gonna bigger than the first one... and has MCKELLAN said:"everyone on the SET has said:"there is too much action in that movie"" so prepare yourself to be overwhelmed with actions !

the facts are there... only you can imagine the rest !


EDIT:
the trailers that had been airing on in certain web sites has been there only 2 weeks before getting removed...reason they gives...
"it was there only for those who didn't see it at the COMIC CON conferences"
so the only place you can now find the trailer is if someone had taped it ! :p

[princevegetam]

whoa, colossus is gonna be cool, just imagine him transforming into that steel armoured super strength mutant form. and i thought senator kelly died in the first movie, oh well, his powers suck anyways.

[Weather Witch]

I believe you are referring to Mr. Gyrich? Who...if I'm not mistaken Raven killed in the first movie. Prehaps Dr.Larry Trask appears, he created the Mark I sentinels.

[QUIET_KILLER]

[quote:post_uid3="princevegetam"]whoa, colossus is gonna be cool, just imagine him transforming into that steel armoured super strength mutant form. and i thought senator kelly died in the first movie, oh well, his powers suck anyways.[/quote:post_uid3]
HmMmMm.....Sounded like mr vegetam waz almost interested in this Movie and for weatherwitch.Plz explain that raven part I did not see that. ???

[Weather Witch]

Raven is Mystique, and when Senetor Kelly was in the hellicopter, and Mystique morphed into her normal appearance, he asked where Gyrich was, and she told him he was dead...prehaps I'm mistaken...

[QUIET_KILLER]

My badz your correct.I had forgot about that part.Itz been a while since I watched that Movie.Yes I have the gutz to admit when I am wrong!!!! :p ? is Do you that meanz all of yaz. :D

[SSJKarma]

story of mr gyrich...

he started as being the GRAND VISIR of the senator telling him some "ADVICE" on thing that should be done against the mutant... then his master plan's revealed itself, he wanted the senator to be president so he can accept the "SENTINEL" project to actually get rid of the mutant menace !

in the movie, mystique took his place and magneto said that "MR GYRICH wasn't in this world anymore" but in the sequel that they are planning and making. that mr gyrich isn't dead, like magneto said. he is even more anger to get those pesky mutant out an for all ! so he just get on with his sentinel project !

mr gyrich exist even in the comic books, it isn't him who MADE the sentinels but it was originaly his idea and his mind alone who made this project reality !

what i really want to know is...
will they BOOST the caracters ?
right now from what we saw in the first movie they aren't ready at all to face the sentinels ! some actor who passed on some TV shows or magasine have said that they are working out cause there will be more fight sequence and not bashing scene like the WOLVIE vs SABERTOOTH fight. more like martial arts one and really, they seems to tell there will be much more action and fights in the sequel.

they even talk of a 3rd x-men due for 2004 !

it's just too insane, 20th century fox keep this top-secret and the movie will be out in 6 months or so... that is meant to be as good as the first one and probably even better ! they are saying that NIGHTCRAWLER is something that have never been done on TV and it is also said that more than 2 SPECIAL EFFECT maker are working togetther to give us what the first movie didn't ! it is just norma since the movie has about 50million more than the first movie had ! that mean better special effects and way bigger fight scene !

+there will be some X-KIDS that will act in the movie...
remember iceman or pyro in the first movie ? well they will help a little in the second one ! jubilee will be there too and kitty pride also !

there is about 10 characters that have been added to the film but only 2 will be used on screen the others will be like 10 or 20 second scenes or like iceman was in the first movie !

for those who didn't know iceman and pyro where there...

iceman = bobby drake (the one who talked to rogue and maked ice on her desk to welcome her)
PYRO = john (the one with the lighter and bringing the fire into a fireball right in front of rogue !)
Jubilee = jubilee (you must have seen the 10 minutes footage at the end of the video tape, she's sitting right next to rogue)
Kitty pride = kitty pride (she's the one who pass right thru the door in front of wolverine in Prof X's class)

those four are sure to be in too, but only for some help at certain moments ! same goes for colosus, he is suppose to be in but just like the X-Kids he will not be there too long ! Beast is there too but he's just like colosus and will be seen much more in the background !

anyway, i hope this movie will be up to the rumors people says about it !