Incentive for the n00b-killers - Give 'em a reason to fight the low ranks

[Troy88]

Before I state my idea, you all need to realize that I don't really give a rat's ass one way or the other about rank and n00b-killers, 'cause I don't fight for rank anyways. However, a lot of people around here have been bitching about it, and it got me thinking...

Most "n00b-killers" only care about their rank. They play all day, and if they aren't already in the top 20, I'm sure they check the top scores page constantly so that they can find someone ranked higher than them in the chat room (and that of course, is the one and only way they'll risk losing to someone better than themselves). They want to get to #1, and they don't care how. That being said, why would they want to fight someone that's capable of beating them (who's ranked under them), when they could just kill a n00b and get the same amount of points? So here's my idea...

The scoring system should remain exactly the same as it is now, with a few minor exceptions...
I think that you should get an additional 10 points for beating someone ranked between 51-100, an additional 20 points for beating someone ranked between 26-50, an additional 30 points for beating someone ranked between 11-25, and an additional 50 points for beating someone in the top 10. This would accomplish a few things.

1. Higher-ranked people would actually have incentive to play lower-ranking people that don't play the game all freakin' day like they do.

2. A lot of people that are ranked higher (e.g. top 20) who got there legitimately still have a hard time catching up with the true n00b-killers who are ranked in the top 5. Just as an example, I've noticed the top 1 and 2 spots having a 1000 point lead over the #3 spot. That's just ridiculous. Now, this means that either they don't ever lose (unlikely), or they fight nothing but n00bs. With an extra 30 point incentive for beating someone between the ranks of 11-25, and an extra 50 points for beating someone in the top 10, these high ranking n00b-killers truly would have a reason to play someone with some skill. Now it would be possible to maintain rank in a respectable manner, instead of fighting nobodies all day.

3. On top of giving the n00b-killers incentive to play low ranking people, the low ranking people would get an extra little bonus if they happen to win the match, thus making it a bit easier to advance in rank. Originally, I thought that the "bonus" should only be given to people that win against someone with lower rank, but I'm sure it would be a hell of a lot easier to code if the bonus was given based solely on the rank of the person that was defeated. Besides, what's an extra 30-50 points when you're already getting half of their points as it is?

4. Have you ever had a high rank, but then lost interest because you were tired of busting your ass to maintain it, and only getting 10 points per fight? Well, with my idea, you could play against other skilled fighters, and get rewarded for it if you win! If you truly are the best, why should you have to play all day to prove it?

My idea, of course, would by no means completely eliminate n00b-killers. But it would surely increase your chances of actually getting to play and have a rematch with them, seeing as they have more to gain (anywhere from an additional 10-50 points) than lose (a measly 10 points). At any rate, I think that my idea would make things...interesting. TMyApp, if you're reading this and like my idea, keep in mind that the numbers I threw out were just as an example. If you feel that the "bonuses" should be raised or lowered, that's cool (it's your game, after all :colgate: ).

So what do you think, good idea, or bad idea?

[mastaq]

why dont we abolish the rank system? doh...... oh wait we can't. b/c all the noobs wouldn't play anymore. well i agree with troy. :happy:

[Troy88]

Hmm.....

[asshole]

Great Idea!
Now I actually WANT the system to change, because, now the greedy players will also take the risk of fighting others player (10-30) so, they dont have to fight their ass off!

[Troy88]

Exactly. It would still be possible for truly skilled players (e.g. Nferno, fear_tetsuo, etc.) to get a substantial lead by beating the top 25 people with this system, but the point is, there's more in it for them to want to fight you in the first place. It's a win-win situation. :D

Plus, I think it would inspire some serious competion with the people that are the most active (the top 50).

[hadoken king]

:D great idea man :D!

[iTALY]

thats is a good idea but if only we could just get rid of the newb killers that would b even better :lol:

[blue_kid8]

awesome idea! I'm with it all the way :thumbsup:

[Troy88]

Thanks for the support, guys...now if I could just get TMyApp to read it... :colgate:

[lordgrobyc']

i agree also. there are too many ppl trying to keep there rank up and killing alot of newbies. just want to tell u guys im not a newbie. its just a different name.

[Troy88]

*bump*

[lordgrobyc']

I think the ranking system should be abolished. There wasnt a ranking system about 2 months ago, was there? Well im pretty sure there wasnt. I dont remember it.

[Gamiac10]

[quote:post_uid8]I hate n00b killers, I even voted myself![/quote:post_uid8]-[i:post_uid8]Excerpt taken from another of my posts[/i:post_uid8]- But seriously, why not put a password-protected Easy Server and handicap mode? :corky: :alien:

[skate919]

I think the ranking system should be abolished. There wasnt a ranking system about 2 months ago, was there? Well im pretty sure there wasnt. I dont remember it.
The Ranking System has almost always been there.

[Troy88]

Well...I wouldn't dare suggest anything like that, because I know that the ranking system is a fun part of the game for a lot of people.

But if you're ranked say, 15, and you beat someone that is ranked 20, don't you think you deserve more than 10 points for winning? I mean, as it is now, you could be ranked 15 and beat someone ranked 9999 and get the same amount of points as you would for beating the guy that was ranked 20. That's why n0oob killers exist in the first place; there's nothing in it for them to fight someone with skill, when they get the same amount of points for an increased risk of losing.

By the way, to anyone posting their opinions about my idea, please don't say anything about "abolishing" the rank system. That was never my intention, and I don't want someone coming to the last page of this thread, seeing that, and then immediately thinking that my idea was a bad one, without even reading it on the first page.

[DX Zero]

Great idea!

[Zyerx]

ya, great idea :happy:

[DanYankees]

yes it is a great idea

now mr tmyapp sir can you read about troy's idea and enforce it :D

[machine1]

well people can fight who ever they want to fight.and what if a noob challenges u?

[Tidus2K2]

Sup troy. Great idea but u'll have to get quass to read it since he made it , so he said.

good idea *poor ######s*

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Something I find even more annoying then these ####-killers are the high ranked guys who are constantly striving to catch up to them, and because of it, only (ever) fight people ranked higher then themselves. Surely you've seen them in the chat, not accepting ANY fights until someone higher ranked then themselves and then it's "join my game #####".

And your idea just gives them all the more reason to do... that sort of thing (although they'd be open to matches with people that are slightly under themselves with this kinda thing). So, do you think there's a way to keep them from fighting high-ranked player ridgedly, AND, at the same time, keep the noob-killers to a minimum?

[Troy88]

Yes...I know the type you speak of. Unfortunately, my idea wouldn't stop that from happening, but at the same time, I don't see how it would encourage more of it. People that do that kind of thing are lazy in the first place, and if they stand to gain an extra 50 points on top of the 500 or so they are already going to get, I don't see it making a huge difference.

But then on the other hand, these same people that pay such close attention to the ranks might be more likely to fight someone in the top 50 with my system, as opposed to how it stands now (because they'd be getting anywhere from an extra 20-50 points).

Of course, we could always rig it to where the bonuses are only given if the person you beat is ranked under you, but I thought it would be easier for TMyApp to code this way (because if we did that, both your rank and your opponent's rank would have to be checked at the end of every match).

Personally, I don't think beating someone ranked under you should give you too many points. I still think that you should be rewarded for beating someone ranked higher than you. That's why I didn't suggest making the bonuses outrageously high.

But what got me started on all this in the first place, is the fact that you can beat someone in the top 50 (who is more competitve than most, and is more challenging to beat) when you're ranked higher than them, and get a substantial reward for it. But then if you fight them later on, when you're ranked lower than them, you get only 10 points. Were they any less difficult to beat? No. Should you get the same amount of points that you did when you beat them when they were ranked lower than you? The answer to that question is no, as well. But you should get something, I think. Top 100 people shouldn't be worth the same amount as the person that is ranked 9999, and that is why I came up with the idea of the "bonuses" in the first place.

My idea wouldn't drastically change the current rank system, nor would it completely eliminate all the problems. But it would offer incentive for both n 0 0 b-killers, and low ranked players alike to actually fight people in the top 50, who aren't necessarily ranked better than them (because they'd have more to gain, with the bonuses, than lose).

Another way of looking at this, is that the most active (top 100) are more likely to fight each other, rather than nobodies, thus encouraging healthy competition.

lefty, why dont you do everyone a favor and lock this topic. tmyapp already said he's not going to do sh*t about the ranking system until he's finish with the game, which make sense. why should he be worried about someone feelings hurt because they are ranked 5998 and they feel that they should be ranked 3rd.