sp

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Now there has been a lot of bashing towards how "cheap" sp

[Angel-Eyes]

yes good idea, if it reduces, everyone without true spidy skills will fall, and leave only those who know "combos".......

yes thats right, we will be reduced to punching and kicking!



Edited By kester- on 1094728658

[blanka09]

Yup.. and it wouldn't hurt if ppl actually used the spider sting once in a while :biggrin:

[~Mastermax~]

can't you just put a lock on how many times you can use it, becuase i kno a lot of people are cheap with him but for those ofus who aren't this makes it harder, if there is a reduction on this move on this move, then the only move left that doesn't drain the super bar is web ball, and he is slow with that compared to ryu.

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Actually, the web ball is up to par with Ryu's hadouken.. it's just the frequency of release that varies between the two characters.

And besides, it's not just the web ball.. what about the web sting?? And I'm not saying that the amount of times the move is done should be reduces.. all I'm saying is that let the move reduce the power bar.. so that it's not abused. That's the same way wolver

[limbei]

a rather good idea but like u said spider is the cheapest character so y work on him?
work on the others seriously voted t ob the cheapest characters first...
i mean spidey is powerful taking away the kick wont really make him less powerful, just making his moves somewhat limited that's all

[68-1093009699]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! don't do that :ghostface: you should do somthing else about spider man not his spider kick thats what he uses in his maximum spider special I can't believe you guys are agreeing with this :confused: do somthing else to him his spider kick is one of his natural moves that means marve| gave him that move which means it it a completley legal move :whatsthat: and should not be changed that would not be fair it's like doing the same thing to cyclpos's optic blast attack it's madness and Spider kicks, Optic blasts, Drill claws is what makes SFO...........SFO!!! it's what makes the game live it's what makes the game FUN!!!!!!!!! :) i mean come on i do have a point :confused:



Edited By DarkKidbuu on 1094738510

[Saijin_Ryu]

Yea change spidey kick to how the drill claw is, its biased against wolvy =(

[dominicankid098]

[color=#000000]Spidey is soo top 2. Explain this to me. How the hell does sp

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]hehe.. dominicankid098: That's a little bit unrealistic.. I mean, every other character can super jump, why not sp

[dominicankid098]

I know it is unrealistic. It is called "dominicankid098 giving ####ish ideas*.

:walks away:

[68-1093009699]

WEAK FOOLS!!!!!!!! :angry: .......................er ummm I mean I think u guys are hating on spider man......



Edited By DarkKidbuu on 1094760522

[Dark~Blanka]

[color=#000000]shadup!!! sp

[68-1093009699]

[color=#000000]First of all you can't spell for S*%T
[quote]shadup!!! sp

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Dark Blanka: You use sp

[~Mastermax~]

well if you gonna domb done spidey ya might as well change all moves that can be comsidered cheap, ryu hadoken should take away from the super bar, as should ken's fire uppercut, and rd will now take away 4 bars...


is that what ya want?



i got a better solution to the kick problem, instead of it reducing the super bar there fore harming all spidey users, why doesn't a lock be put on him so that he can only do one or two per jump, the kick is a very important move for all of the spidey users, moves that take away from the super are only used as last resorts or combo finishers, if ya do that to his kick, then he will only be left with the web ball to charge moves with (well there's spider sting, but that is pretty useless unless ya know what your doing)



it seems all of the ryu users hate him becuase they can't be cheap against him, they are only good with the simplest charector so they want all of the other charectors fliped up.

using spidey effectively requires skill, skill is power. with great power comes great responsibility, you should kno that blanka or you are wearing that maximum spider title wrongly :plain:

[dominicankid098]

His web sting must be tweaked. That takes out too much damage. 2 web stings and you are close to danger. HELL NO! People can host games with level 2 and use web sting twice at the beggining.

[Dark~Blanka]

[color=#000000].......no no...

blanka09:i use him if ppl are using him and are cheap or not.. cause i know i can't beat them with ryu most ppl know u can't beat a skilled spideruser=cheap with a grounder ryu... sssssssssssssss



mastermaxie:ok thats a good idea yea but isnt it good too for spider kik for not to put up ur super bar?????ppl abuse that move do u even know.... every spidey user uses that cheap move the most of the game..also why take away hadoken and all those other moves u said... thats not even the real spider kik the real one takes longer to attack this one on sfo takes away at least one bar and puts up ur super bar..taking away hadoken.. thtas jus stupid...lmao... btw spider kik goes all across the screen also lemme jus add.. u said it takes skill for sp

[~Mastermax~]

[color=#000000][quote:post_uid0="Dark_Blanka"].......no no...

blanka09:i use him if ppl are using him and are cheap or not.. cause i know i can't beat them with ryu most ppl know u can't beat a skilled spideruser=cheap with a grounder ryu... sssssssssssssss



mastermaxie:ok thats a good idea yea but isnt it good too for spider kik for not to put up ur super bar?????ppl abuse that move do u even know.... every spidey user uses that cheap move the most of the game..also why take away hadoken and all those other moves u said... thats not even the real spider kik the real one takes longer to attack this one on sfo takes away at least one bar and puts up ur super bar..taking away hadoken.. thtas jus stupid...lmao... btw spider kik goes all across the screen also lemme jus add.. u said it takes skill for sp

[Dark~Blanka]

lol spidey has a too in one.. jus found that out he could super jump and jus do spider kik to do to another side of a super ryu u have to do a harder concep down up fast foward i somtimes have trouble doin that too..

[blanka09]

well if you gonna domb done spidey ya might as well change all moves that can be comsidered cheap, ryu hadoken should take away from the super bar, as should ken's fire uppercut, and rd will now take away 4 bars...


is that what ya want?



i got a better solution to the kick problem, instead of it reducing the super bar there fore harming all spidey users, why doesn't a lock be put on him so that he can only do one or two per jump, the kick is a very important move for all of the spidey users, moves that take away from the super are only used as last resorts or combo finishers, if ya do that to his kick, then he will only be left with the web ball to charge moves with (well there's spider sting, but that is pretty useless unless ya know what your doing)



it seems all of the ryu users hate him becuase they can't be cheap against him, they are only good with the simplest charector so they want all of the other charectors fliped up.

using spidey effectively requires skill, skill is power. with great power comes great responsibility, you should kno that blanka or you are wearing that maximum spider title wrongly :plain:
[color=#000000]How dare you?? I should have you head for that .. *cougH* :biggrin:

Actually, I know what I'm saying.. Ryu's hadouken should not be toned down for it doesn't have the same effect as spidey's spider kick. Have you fought some spidey users lately?? You should know what I'm talking about. Heck.. if you're a cool spidey user, making the move have this effect shouldn't phase any "real" spidey user. After all, we have to prove that we can do without (ab)using the web kick.

Now having sp

[Dark~Blanka]

preaching it is but what does blasphemy mean if its bad ima keep preaching anyway proved my point cause ppl want to have a fair fight instead of a cheap one thats why ppl should get fliped up intead of the char.. too see how dangerous it is on the floor.. u will see and feel the power of ryu but for some ppl there good with ryu aswel but the majority of that is liike 20% so ya.......and i use him cause ppl use him blanka remmeber..... i would use ryu but i know all the person gonna be in air all day and doin the same move over and over...

so ya im preaching ...


Its time for a Change!!!!



Edited By Dark~Blanka on 1094764077

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Forget about what I said Dark Blanka.. You haven't even replied to the topic.. is it a good idea or not?? O_O. At least I know what mastermax thinks. :biggrin:

And however you put it Ryu users can sometimes be annoying(funny enough, I use Ryu more than sp

[Dark~Blanka]

[color=#000000]It takes skill too use ryu u know why u not usin sp

[blanka09]

heh.. and you made me think.. young fool XD

Anyway, as for my character, we'll just have to wait and see won't we?? :biggrin:

Go on ppl.. post away ur ideas.

[raddaman0628]

Well it should be somehow changed. Its a freaking fire seeking missle when in the ground lol. It should be like marve| vs Capcom where he can only do 2 per Super jump and 1 per normal and it is kind of slow that way it can't be overused.

[blanka09]

That's a good idea.. but it'll take way too long to try and change the move and recode it into the game. Making these little changes here and there might actually make it work.. so yeah :biggrin:

[Bob~Marley4004]

[color=#000000]Okay... my turn

I think its a real good idea.. I been playing alot of spidey users lately, and thats one thing they like to do.. stay in the air and do spidey kicks till they get there levels up and do a couple of specials that you can't really stop.

Just ask yourself this, why not do it?? Its really something that can change sp

[SSJKarma]

[color=#FF0000]Good thing blanka... i too have enough of spidey kicks, the web ballas i can deal with but the spidey kick that keeps em in the air at all times... its just unfair for sentinel users who strickly have nothing to help get spidey down as sentinel has no moves at all that can reach that high !

i always to super jump and super jumping for unknown reasons works as poorly as it can against sp

[Riseabove]

[color=#116000]ok blanka...GREAT IDEA. I think its pretty clear the majority of people are definately feeling what you are saying. I have suggestion to add though.

Make it so that he cant recover the kick in mid air if it is blocked by a projectile IE hadouken im gonna set up a scenerio:

Ok Spidey vs Ryu:

Spidey jumps and goes for spidey kick > Ryu counters with hadouken (on his screen he sees sp

[dominicankid098]

[color=#000000]I am a ryu user, and I manage to find a way/weakness to sp

[MasterGrim]

Spidey isnt cheap. It's just that people cant coutner his moves. if youwant to know wat's cheap I'll tell u, if spidey had the power to cling on to walls for like a few secs. like in the other games that will be cheap

[68-1093009699]

Ha all you haters probrably can't even use spider man probrably still got the character lock on all of them :sneaky2:

[raddaman0628]

Ha all you haters probrably can't even use spider man probrably still got the character lock on all of them :sneaky2:
[color=#0000FF]Whatever you fool. You insulted many of greater power than your own like karma. We probably all know how to use sp

[QUIET_KILLER]

[color=#000000][color=teal]hmm...what to say about sp

[MasterGrim]

the only thing that makes spidey's kick good is the lag

[68-1093009699]

WEAK FOOLS :angry:

[SSJKarma]

[color=#FF0000]young fool ?
i am 23 year old, i doubt to be any younger then you are kid !

as for spidey being the greatest guy and us not able to counter his moves... well yeah we can't counter his moves, SINCE NO flipING MOVES CAN COUNTER HIM WHEN HE IS AT THE HIGHEST PLACE OF THE SCREEN FLYING FORM ONE END TO THE OTHER WITHOUT STOPPING !!!!!

that's the problem
in any games i played, grabbing the end of the screen and jumping away then web slingning was cool, yet never was sp

[~Mastermax~]

well the only charector that can counter his moves is cyc|ops, only by being cheap thouhg, but you said you were already going to make a thread about him, so i'm not bitching.


but as i said before thee only thing that should be changed is a lock on how many kicks you can do.

i have foughten cheap spidey users recentely and now know how cheap they are, i can barely land a simgle attack, only move that they can't dodge is web sting, becuase they don't know what to do when i do it, so they kick right into it :sly:


but the funniest thing that will happen after this, is the ryu users will start complaining about how spidey can web ball faster than a hadoken (which is a horrible fliping lie!!!!) and say that his web ball will have to drain the super meter.

then 5 months later, the best charector left will be ryu, and all people will do is hadoken, against us as we try to do punches and kicks to raise our super bar...

[American_Badass]

[color=#000000:post_uid10]:D I think we should limit spidey kicks by using the same tactic as super jumps super jumps r limited after about 3 then u have to wait to use them.........................and i think u should do somthing bout spidys sup speed...............its like ryus punches 3x as slow as spidy..........[/color:post_uid10]

[raddaman0628]

[color=#0000FF]I have noticed the web ball is kind of slower than hadouken and the hadouken is way bigger and a little bit faster. The spideykickis kind of not possible, because sp

[~Mastermax~]

:D I think we should limit spidey kicks by using the same tactic as super jumps super jumps r limited after about 3 then u have to wait to use them.........................and i think u should do somthing bout spidys sup speed...............its like ryus punches 3x as slow as spidy..........
spidey has really weak punches and kicks, this is made up for by his speed, is this not obvious?

[American_Badass]

[color=#000000:post_uid10]??? idk its kind of hard to tell when ur opponent only uses spidey kicks and web stings[/color:post_uid10]

[Dark~Blanka]

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"][color=#000000]Good thing blanka... i too have enough of spidey kicks, the web ballas i can deal with but the spidey kick that keeps em in the air at all times... its just unfair for sentinel users who strickly have nothing to help get spidey down as sentinel has no moves at all that can reach that high !

i always to super jump and super jumping for unknown reasons works as poorly as it can against sp

[Y2J2005]

COOL IDEA buT: Not all ppl will read this post and when they are in the game playing and thier doing the spidey kick, thier gonna be" WHAT THE HELL, WHY IS MY SUPER BAR GOING DOWN. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU PUT SOME KIND OF WARNING UP ON THE LODING SCREEN SO THAT THE PPL WHO DONT KNOW, NOW KNOW. Idea good-Idea Bad

[Vash]

That would be a good change to spidey users.

[~Mastermax~]

well if it does get changed to that (which it hopefully won't and it will just have a lock on it) then either tmyapp will slap it on the thing at the beggining where it says updates, or he will let it be a surprise to the cheapasses out there when they can't be cheap anymore.

but then again, people always post stupid things that can be answered by reading the thing, anybody notice the vip list at the bottom?

[Vash]

well if it does get changed to that (which it hopefully won't and it will just have a lock on it) then either tmyapp will slap it on the thing at the beggining where it says updates, or he will let it be a surprise to the cheapasses out there when they can't be cheap anymore.

but then again, people always post stupid things that can be answered by reading the thing, anybody notice the vip list at the bottom?
I agree that they are cheap but I have a feeling that if tmyapp does that, I have a feling that there might be some type of a bug.

[Dark~Blanka]

maybe less ppl will stop playin the game..??

[estset]

Ok dork I know what you said. I know why blanka09 talking about this topic beacuse he fought alots of spidey before and he think spidey is too strong or cheap or people talking alot of this that what I think. And that why he don't wanted to lose and also spidey isn't cheap he good. If you don't like spidey you should just picked spidey vs spidey just tried useng spidey vs spidey it will not cheap and you will see that it isn't cheap:)
And also spidey is good where he is. And also reducing spidey sky kick thingy is good idea but it good where he is, and people don't talk about spidey cheat or something like that. The reason is beacuse some people is getting inyoying by those cheap spidey topic and post. If you wanted to talk like that I suggest you talk to TMyapp or other people or go to other topic. Their alot of post that said spidey cheap, spidey cheap. If you can't stand the spidey just use spidey or don't fight them it my suggestion and reminder stop bitching is inoying. That all I need to said and blanka09 I didn't blain on you it just an answer so people understand that spidey isn't cheap.:) So sorry blanka09 but I didn't blain on you like I said it just a answer.



Edited By estset on 1094932883

[Vash]

Ok dork I know what you said. I know why blanka09 talking about this topic beacuse he fought alots of spidey before and he think spidey is too strong or cheap or people talking alot of this that what I think. And that why he don't wanted to lose and also spidey isn't cheap he good. If you don't like spidey you should just picked spidey vs spidey just tried useng spidey vs spidey it will not cheap and you will see that it isn't cheap:)
And also spidey is good where he is. And also reducing spidey sky kick thingy is good idea but it good where he is, and people don't talk about spidey cheat or something like that. The reason is beacuse some people is getting inyoying by those cheap spidey topic and post. If you wanted to talk like that I suggest you talk to TMyapp or other people or go to other topic. Their alot of post that said spidey cheap, spidey cheap. If you can't stand the spidey just use spidey or don't fight them it my suggestion and reminder stop bitching is inoying. That all I need to said and blanka09 I didn't blain on you it just an answer so people understand that spidey isn't cheap.:) So sorry blanka09 but I didn't blain on you like I said it just a answer.
[color=#000000]Well sp

[estset]

[color=#000000][quote:post_uid0="estset"]Ok dork I know what you said. I know why blanka09 talking about this topic beacuse he fought alots of spidey before and he think spidey is too strong or cheap or people talking alot of this that what I think. And that why he don't wanted to lose and also spidey isn't cheap he good. If you don't like spidey you should just picked spidey vs spidey just tried useng spidey vs spidey it will not cheap and you will see that it isn't cheap:)
And also spidey is good where he is. And also reducing spidey sky kick thingy is good idea but it good where he is, and people don't talk about spidey cheat or something like that. The reason is beacuse some people is getting inyoying by those cheap spidey topic and post. If you wanted to talk like that I suggest you talk to TMyapp or other people or go to other topic. Their alot of post that said spidey cheap, spidey cheap. If you can't stand the spidey just use spidey or don't fight them it my suggestion and reminder stop bitching is inoying. That all I need to said and blanka09 I didn't blain on you it just an answer so people understand that spidey isn't cheap.:) So sorry blanka09 but I didn't blain on you like I said it just a answer.
Well sp

[Hadouken2yoursystem]

a rather good idea but like u said spider is the cheapest character so y work on him?
work on the others seriously voted t ob the cheapest characters first...
i mean spidey is powerful taking away the kick wont really make him less powerful, just making his moves somewhat limited that's all
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People, I'm ashamed ofu. Spidey is not cheap. Check out cyc|ops and sent

[~Mastermax~]

well no, spidey isn't a cheap charector, but he can be used cheap, and recentely people have been complianing about cheap spidey users, so what blanka wants to do (blanka is a big spidey user if ya haven't guessed) is make it so that he is greatly harder to use cheaply, and in turn saving the reputation of the noncheap spidey users.


*note my 1000th post and it's not spam :p



Edited By ~Mastermax~ on 1094935681

[Hadouken2yoursystem]

well no, spidey isn't a cheap charector, but he can be used cheap, and recentely people have been complianing about cheap spidey users, so what blanka wants to do (blanka is a big spidey user if ya haven't guessed) is make it so that he is greatly harder to use cheaply, and in turn saving the reputation of the noncheap spidey users.
i no. blanka is spidey like i am evilhadoken.

[Vash]

well no, spidey isn't a cheap charector, but he can be used cheap, and recentely people have been complianing about cheap spidey users, so what blanka wants to do (blanka is a big spidey user if ya haven't guessed) is make it so that he is greatly harder to use cheaply, and in turn saving the reputation of the noncheap spidey users.
Even through he is used cheaply, it takes skills to beat cheap useres and pros in the game.

[Hadouken2yoursystem]

well no, spidey isn't a cheap charector, but he can be used cheap, and recentely people have been complianing about cheap spidey users, so what blanka wants to do (blanka is a big spidey user if ya haven't guessed) is make it so that he is greatly harder to use cheaply, and in turn saving the reputation of the noncheap spidey users.
Even through he is used cheaply, it takes skills to beat cheap useres and pros in the game.
like me?

[estset]

I am the best spidey user in this game. And also my spidey isn't cheap but lag lol.

[~Mastermax~]

this threads been taken over by n00bs...

[estset]

this threads been taken over by n00bs...
Who you talking n00bs if you talking to as you will be n00bs beacuse you talking n00bs get it n00bs. That mean all of this people that post in this topic.:P

[~Mastermax~]

i don't think i need to comment to carry my point anymore, that last post explained all i got to bring to the table

[American_Badass]

[color=#000000:post_uid10]why dony we just teak ryu to become super duper fast as spidy then we wont have a problem lol[/color:post_uid10]

[Battleaxe22]

How about we bring it back to the old days, and allow for only ryu to be a playable character. Don't bash me if this has already been stated, cuz I don't have the time to scroll through the whole thread.

[~Mastermax~]

why dony we just teak ryu to become super duper fast as spidy then we wont have a problem lol
hope your being sarcastic, cuase then ryu would obviously be the most powerful charector in the game, and he is simple to use so all the n00bs will use him...

[Dark~Blanka]

[color=#000000]estset ur sp

[~Mastermax~]

[quote:post_uid0="Dark~Blanka"][color=#000000]estset ur sp

[Dark~Blanka]

:blues:

[blanka09]

How about we bring it back to the old days, and allow for only ryu to be a playable character. Don't bash me if this has already been stated, cuz I don't have the time to scroll through the whole thread.
Point well taken.. we all know Ryu has a clear advantage over other characters. So why not just let TMyApp quit making new characters.. Once a character comes that has the tendency to be faster and better than Ryu, they say he's cheap.

Notwithstanding, I want to see what a sorta tweak like this would do to the game. :biggrin:

[estset]

Yo do bison cheap.

[pip99]

Spidey isn't even on the top 2 O O .. but he's the one that's been bashed the most

Deep mega Sigh........


Spidey needs to be slowed down.
Spidey kick takes down bar
Specials toned down.


AND IM BEING REALISTIC.

[raddaman0628]

Don't worry in Sptember 30 the cheapest character will be Bison:;):

[MasterX05]

[color=#000000]? What is sp

[Evil-Bastard]

[color=#000000]what also has to be tweaked a bit is that everytime a LAGGY sp

[raddaman0628]

[quote:post_uid0="MasterX05"][color=#000000]? What is sp

[pip99]

Spideys just the most powerful charecter in the game by a long shot. its a JOKE thats tmyapp has left him like this for SO long.

[Saijin_Ryu]

[color=#E77471]The Best Ryu User VS The Best sp

[American_Badass]

[color=#000000:post_uid6]:baaa: No doubt bout it.sp

[pip99]

[quote:post_uid0="Saijin_Ryu"][color=#000000]The Best Ryu User VS The Best sp

[estset]

[quote:post_uid0="Saijin_Ryu"][color=#000000]The Best Ryu User VS The Best sp

[pip99]

[quote:post_uid0="estset"][color=#000000][quote:post_uid0="Saijin Ryu"]The Best Ryu User VS The Best sp

[MasterX05]

[color=#000000]Now lets not sterotype the sp

[luigibyluigi]

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"][color=#000000]hehe.. dominicankid098: That's a little bit unrealistic.. I mean, every other character can super jump, why not sp

[~Mastermax~]

bam!!!
first came the people who say flip you all spidey kicks ass, then the n00bs came, then the haters came, can we get some decent unbaised opinions here? :sly:

[American_Badass]

[color=#000000:post_uid14]:baaa: Instant spidey win(how to make him almost invincible)

1.56k
2.slow comp
3.2on1 tag always play alone
4.always pick 2 spideys
5.use rage
6.timers on
7.pick guile
8.always host

for example:-legends-

PLay like this and u cant lose no matter how many varials hit u.gurantee. :baaa: (ull be rank 1 in no time)[/color:post_uid14]

[raddaman0628]

[quote:post_uid0="MasterX05"][color=#000000]Now lets not sterotype the sp

[pip99]

MasterX05 - yeah in the arcade or on ps1 theres no lag i dont care if i lost to spidey but on THIS hes just........sigh.

[68-1093009699]

[color=#000000:post_uid13]You know what I am going to write an e-mail to the Game Cube assosiation so they can get marve|, Capcom and Activision to make [b:post_uid13]marve| vs Capcom Unlimited[/b:post_uid13] for Game Cube, no lie I already have a list of 50 people i know saying that they think that game would be real cool all I have to do is write the E-mail this game will have every single character from marve| and capcom ever exsisted for REAL!! and all of their best attacks and supers, think it's a game........ this is my ideea and i have been thinking it out for a good while.... why am i doing this you ask? because if you guy's keep on "Tweaking" these characters the game will suck A#& beond all BELIEVE!!!!! :angry: and all because off you guys and I am very tired of this what you guys "need" to tweak is right in front of your eyes like take sentinel, that spinning kick he does when he jumps is way too powerfull and these are the type of things you guys don't see and you guys should know that if someone has a problem with this you should know that this is not a good idea!! :angry: ..................B#$*%es!!!! :angry:[/color:post_uid13]



Edited By DarkKidbuu on 1095099151

[DarkstriderX]

LOL harsh words.. HEY IS THAT LEGAL?????

[68-1093009699]

[color=#000000:post_uid6][quote:post_uid6]LOL harsh words.. HEY IS THAT LEGAL?????[/quote:post_uid6]

Nope :cool:[/color:post_uid6]



Edited By DarkKidbuu on 1095099394

[~Mastermax~]

You know what I am going to write an e-mail to the Game Cube assosiation so they can get marve|, Capcom and Activision to make marve| vs Capcom Unlimited for Game Cube, no lie I already have a list of 50 people i know saying that they think that game would be real cool all I have to do is write the E-mail this game will have every single character from marve| and capcom ever exsisted for REAL!! and all of their best attacks and supers, think it's a game........ this is my ideea and i have been thinking it out for a good while.... why am i doing this you ask? because if you guy's keep on "Tweaking" these characters the game will suck A#& beond all BELIEVE!!!!! :angry: and all because off you guys and I am very tired of this what you guys "need" to tweak is right in front of your eyes like take sentinel, that spinning kick he does when he jumps is way too powerfull and these are the type of things you guys don't see and you guys should know that if someone has a problem with this you should know that this is not a good idea!! :angry: ..................B#$*%es!!!! :angry:
lemme handle this one....


okey for one, marve| and capcom aren't together anymore (and probely won't be)

2. where the hell did ya get activision, what do they have to do with this

3. 50 people aren't going to get them to make that game, 50 people isn't that much for a petition, this game would be international, making it an icredibly huge number of people to say they want it, in fact if you tell them to make a game and give them a complete idea, they cannot make the game, becuase they will be afraid of you suing for royalties

4. three your naming one of those ultimate games that aren't possible, they would have to make all of the charectors, give moves to each of them, adapt them all to gamecubes controller which is weird when it comes to fighting games, and they have to stuff all of this onto one minidisc, becuase a fighting game can go on only one disc becuase if it was on two you would have to constantely change discs, becuase it is a nonlinear system



so i just gotta say, your idea is completely not posible :sly:

[SSJKarma]

[color=#FF0000]Let's be realistick here ok...
the fact is... sp

[limbei]

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"][color=#000000]limbei: Your theory is by far contradictory and doesn't really make sense. You quoted me saying that sp

[Ken-Po]

[color=#0000FF]believe it or not i once fought a wolver

[estset]

If spidey move get reduce. Spidey will easyly get beaten???

[alamgir]

No he wouldn't, he'll probably be like all the other characters. He just needs to slow down a little.

[~Mastermax~]

no spidey's keyfactor is his speed, without it he will easily fall to the charectors with strong movesand slow speeds (ryu) spidey has weak moves and a lot of speed, again i gotta say it's just you ryu people trying to make him the ultimate...



Edited By ~Mastermax~ on 1095183299

[MasterX05]

[color=#000000]One question how come sp

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]You know what.. I'm actually getting fed up of bashing sp

[Ken-Po]

Let me tell you something about cheap, to me there is no such thing because in certain games certain rules apply. I will tell you right now every character has their flaws in this game, meaning their moves CAN be countered always once you find out what mind game your opponent is up to. Really the only flaw in this game is the lag that you never know where your opponent is, but you have to guess where he is and when to execute a super. Anyone who calls somebody cheap right now is to me a scrub, yes a scrub not a no ob but a scrub. Scrub is worse because they complain how they got beaten by a cheap spidey, ryu or sent user etc etc. and make themself look really stupid. A no ob on the other hand is just somebody new to the game.

Also calling yourself so called "elite" name or whatever because you play Ryu? Ryu is just as "cheap" if you will as the other characters here with his half screen hadoukens and his shin shoryuken taking half of your life using only 1 energy bar. I'm not saying hes cheap just telling not to jump to conclusions that your "elite" if you play Ryu.

If you play to win, then you will do anything what you know about the game you enjoy playing so much to mop the floor witht he competition. My advise is don't complain "cheap this cheap that" just play more and more and I guarantee you will get a better aspect of the game and become much better.

Damn I feel like my 3rd grade teacher
:whatsthat:

[pip99]

[color=#000000][quote]And yet, no one... but no one complains.. you wanna know why?? Cause one out of 7 ppl (which would mean the bulk of active members/vets) have discovered a way to counter those attacks. Stay close to both players and keep hard kicking them.. and they can't do anything. but due to the fact that no one has discovered a way to actually keep sp

[SSJKarma]

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"][color=#000000]You know what.. I'm actually getting fed up of bashing sp

[QUIET_KILLER]

[quote:post_uid4="SSJKarma"][color=#000000:post_uid4][quote:post_uid4="blanka09"]You know what.. I'm actually getting fed up of bashing sp

[68-1093009699]

[color=#000000:post_uid12][quote:post_uid12][quote:post_uid12]Quote (DarkKidbuu @ Sep. 13 2004,11:44)
You know what I am going to write an e-mail to the Game Cube assosiation so they can get marve|, Capcom and Activision to make [b:post_uid12]marve| vs Capcom Unlimited[/b:post_uid12] for Game Cube, no lie I already have a list of 50 people i know saying that they think that game would be real cool all I have to do is write the E-mail this game will have every single character from marve| and capcom ever exsisted for REAL!! and all of their best attacks and supers, think it's a game........ this is my ideea and i have been thinking it out for a good while.... why am i doing this you ask? because if you guy's keep on "Tweaking" these characters the game will suck A#& beond all BELIEVE!!!!! :angry: and all because off you guys and I am very tired of this what you guys "need" to tweak is right in front of your eyes like take sentinel, that spinning kick he does when he jumps is way too powerfull and these are the type of things you guys don't see and you guys should know that if someone has a problem with this you should know that this is not a good idea!! :angry: ..................B#$*%es!!!! :angry:[/quote:post_uid12]

lemme handle this one....


okey for one, marve| and capcom aren't together anymore (and probely won't be)

2. where the hell did ya get activision, what do they have to do with this

3. 50 people aren't going to get them to make that game, 50 people isn't that much for a petition, this game would be international, making it an icredibly huge number of people to say they want it, in fact if you tell them to make a game and give them a complete idea, they cannot make the game, becuase they will be afraid of you suing for royalties

4. three your naming one of those ultimate games that aren't possible, they would have to make all of the charectors, give moves to each of them, adapt them all to gamecubes controller which is weird when it comes to fighting games, and they have to stuff all of this onto one minidisc, becuase a fighting game can go on only one disc becuase if it was on two you would have to constantely change discs, becuase it is a nonlinear system



so i just gotta say, your idea is completely not posible :sly:[/quote:post_uid12]

way to make a guy feel like crap mastermax :down:[/color:post_uid12]



Edited By DarkKidbuu on 1095341767

[~Mastermax~]

blanka is completely right about the ryu users, they are mad that someone can finnally beat his easy cheap hadoken stratagies, they bitch and moan and don't kno they are wrong, becuase their cheap stratagies work on every other charector they think they are good and that they are fighting correctely, then spidey comes and beats the moves, they are used to killing everything with it, so they think spidey is therefore cheap.


ssj karma's sent arguement however is funny becuase he sent suffers the same problem.


people use sent cheaply with beams and punches, then spidey comes and easily beats those moves.



so the problem here isn't spidey, it's the cheap people who fight them, becuase our favourite wall crawler is perfect for all cheap stratagies, except cyc|ops, but that is another story...

[pip99]

nah mastermax your wrong.Spideys just actually 2 good.

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Alright pip99.. explain.. give us some strategic and defining info that actually proves that spidey is cheap when compared to all characters in the game and not just Ryu.

It's a simple fact. When it was Ryu alone.. cool game.. wolver

[~Mastermax~]

^exactely^

[68-1093009699]

Please.......Preach!!!!!! so tru.......... so tru :kungfu:

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Have they taken me to court yet... oh.. guess not.. lol :biggrin:

However, I am waiting for someone to pull out the flaws in my thesis above.. tell me why sp

[SSJKarma]

[color=#FF0000]i wonder why i still let this place go up like that, you guys seems not to understand a single word of what i'm saying and some even go as to say that i am cheap when i'm not !

not to point fingers to anyone but... (*points finger towards mastermax*) have you even tryed to master all the characters in this game before even saying that one charcater is cheap ?

seems like not, since no characters are cheap.
i stated my point but you seem to refuse to believe it saying i am cheap with my sentinel when all those who fought me can clearly tell you otherwise !

what it brings me to think is that YOU on the other hand like sp

[pip99]

Jesus blanka your post ment nothing ryu can beat Spidey we do no how.

but its just SO much easier to win with spidey cause hes to

FAST
POWERUL

and that what makes him cheap.

[HelperX]

yes good idea, if it reduces, everyone without true spidy skills will fall, and leave only those who know "combos".......

yes thats right, we will be reduced to punching and kicking!
[color=#000000]i like this this idea maybe this will be able to be in the game cuz i am tiered of ppl doing the same move with spider man over and over cuz they try to claim there self sp

[blanka09]

Jesus blanka your post ment nothing ryu can beat Spidey we do no how.

but its just SO much easier to win with spidey cause hes to

FAST
POWERUL

and that what makes him cheap.
[color=#000000]Did you even take time... time.. to even read what I said in my reply before dismissing it huh??

I doubt it.. *sigh*

All you're saying is what "others" say in the game.. about how sp

[raddaman0628]

Actually ,for the hell I know, Akuma is sopposed to be the "strongest". Spidey is sopposed to be the ''fastest'' or near them. They all have their advantages. However I agree with karma. Spidey can't fly he swings around. What I have said is to limit it. 2 per super jump and 1 per normal jump like in the actual games.

[~Mastermax~]

if ya get right down to it, spidey is pretty weak, ever noticehow all of the shotos punches and kicks are 5 times as strong as spideys, and most of them knock you down.

spidey only seems strong becuase web sting doesn't last long, it doesn't last long so it has to do damage quick instead of slowly and steadily.


spidey is weak and fast, so it's not his moves being powerful it's his supers being fast.


ryu on the other hand is fast and super strong. his hadoken's are like a machine gun

and his main super is easy to hit with and does considerable damage, his uppercut super is instant death, rd takes 3/4 of your health.

so heres the score
spidey fast weak three supers that are decent

ryu fast strong five supers that do incredible damage

now maybe we need a thread about ryu having a hadoken lock to even this all out.

[raddaman0628]

Uhh the Thread for ryu's super uppercut has already been made. Web sting is faster, stronger, and covers up most of the area. Hadouken is like the spidey kick maybe less. Note: I compared this with the computer.

[rabbitalien]

i dunt think they should make spidey kick make u lose energy, its not that cheap of a move... mayb then they can jus increase the time it takes after a spidey kick until u can do another, that would b fair.

[blanka09]

No.. Spidey's strength is his speed.. TMyApp did not reduce the effect of Scott's optic blast.. he reduced the recovery time. In this case, it's of no use to increase the recovery time cause ppl would still abuse it.

The best thing to do is to allow it deplete the super bar. That way it's not abused throughout the game :biggrin:

I'm still waiting for an answer pip99.. Give me something to read.

[pip99]

deep fliping sigh at blanka.......its all been said read the thread.

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]What has been said?? No really.. all you say (at least what my eyes tell me) is sp

[pip99]

Sent is slow as hell you cant serisoly say that blanka man ???

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]urgh give me a break.. You and some other fighters with "fast PCs" brag about how "great" ur sents are.. as long as you're able to release all the projectiles in the world.. Sentinel isn't so slow man.. he's quick enough to counter sp

[68-1093009699]

[color=#000000]Jesus blanka your post ment nothing ryu can beat Spidey we do no how.

but its just SO much easier to win with spidey cause hes to

FAST
POWERUL

and that what makes him cheap.

now are you sure about that? spidey is'nt even that power full, you know what we should experiment with this, everybody is just here arguing about if he is cheap or not what we need to do is field test this theory,
because I don't think he is cheap at all we need to get two people willing to fight then get like blanka and somebody who is in this thread who think's spider man is cheap to watch the game then we will see if sp

[~Mastermax~]

the recorder didn't work in 2 on 2 fights, so it was taken out.

[68-1093009699]

Shoot :whatsthat:



Edited By DarkKidbuu on 1095782604

[SSJKarma]

[color=#FF0000]Not to kill your little bubble Blanka09, but what is the usefullness of a rocket punch if the guy is always up in the air ?

it may be fast, yet it still doesn't have any use against sp

[EvilAkuma]

nice idea Blanka. That kick in the air is getting me pist cuz all they do is stay up there

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Jesus is Lord.. Karma... what gives?? If I didn't find anything wrong with what other users thought of sp

[SSJKarma]

[color=#FF0000]now you're the one turning around...
you simply say that sp

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Put it this way.. I don't really see anything wrong with sp

[68-1093009699]

nice idea Blanka. That kick in the air is getting me pist cuz all they do is stay up there

Man i am wit u a hundred percent EvilAkuma, man that move pisses me off i hate it, you see that's the move that you guy's should definetly "Tweak" because i mean not much people play with sentinel i guess because he takes up 1/4 of the screen and is easy to defeat by virtually anybody on the game but that stupid spinning kick........man we should'nt even have :confused:

[SSJKarma]

[color=#FF0000]Thing is Blanka09....
i get a challenge from any other members who play with any other charcaters.
problem is, everytimes i get to fight a sp

[azncat]

what he said... every time i fight a spidey user they abuse the spider kick move... then they web ball and repeat then i cant cach them =/ then again i found a way to beat them but its my stratigy so get your own :biggrin:

[Deva~]

Lol its funny when ####s think they can win by just useing the old spidey kick, but in reality most spidey users do abuse that move even if their experienced, its a crutch and without it we'll beable to see who's truely good and whos not :sly:


Not to mention if your good enough with ryu you can counter every one of those spidey kicks and kill them with hadoken...


I'd like to see the spidey kick put to a limit as well :buttrock:

[blanka09]

[color=#000000]Damn SSJKarma if you misquote me again, I'll feed ur tongue to Quasimodo (even though i doubt he'll need it) .. :biggrin:

but seriously, I've wasted too much time trying to explain or counter people that use this topic as an arena to bash sp

[pip99]

[color=#000000]aww you pissed me saying this >[quote]Sentinel isn't so slow man.. he's quick enough to counter sp

[raddaman0628]

[color=#0000FF]Oh I have seen this alot and it makes me mad, "spidey cheap" "ryu is more" it makes me crazy. This was made to reduce cheapness and anger. It just had to become a "cheap" word fest. Damn !!!! All characters have pros and cons. A shinshoryuken is almost the same as a web sting. A spidey kick is almost the same as a hadouken. Akuma has an air special so it can't be reached so easily normal damage, same with the shippu jinray kyaku. Sentinel's move come out kind of fast so he only has 2 specials (for vips) and cyc|ops is slow on recovery so a shippu can counter it. I believe it should take a little but not so much. sp

[floaterz]

hmmm good Idea

[mastergrim8]

Spidey cheap com'on. hey it takes skills to beat him and i dont mind cheapness. It's just a challenge for me

[{Predator}]

i say keep him the way he is

[--(-]

tone down his super attack's health damage coz its pretty much 2 supers and you dead, and he can level up so quick it doesnt really make it fair you could probably just make his web ball a really small level up move, like the sent beam.

[estset]

Well for me spidey is okay where he is. =/

[underlaie]

Well for me spidey is okay where he is. =/
the same for me

[azncat]

everyspider user i gfought has abused the spider kick =/ example of some one i just fought: spider kick spider kick web ball web ball spider kick juggernaut spider kick spider kick web ball super etc....

thats just cheap =/