Normal speed - do we need it? - Get rid of it - please

[HairyArse]

Does anyone actually mean to select Normal Speed ????

This is a serious question. As far as I can tell Normal speed only seems to make lag, really, really, really bad for players who have slowish computers anyway.

If it is in there for new-B's so they can learn the game better, well it doesn't help because one match against a good player and they'll get caned anyhow, normal or turbo. They can learn the game in practice mode (which is far better now - thanks TMyApp!)

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that I, for one, would like to see Normal Speed taken out of the game altogether. I can understand that this is meant to be a faithful conversion from the arcade, but really I think Normal Speed causes more problems than its worth.

The only time I ever play normal speed games is when it gets automatically selected, and I don't have the option to choose turbo, otherwise turbo speed is definitely the way to go!

Someone else please tell me what you think about this...

[DX Zero]

Does anyone actually mean to select Normal Speed ????

This is a serious question. As far as I can tell Normal speed only seems to make lag, really, really, really bad for players who have slowish computers anyway.

If it is in there for new-B's so they can learn the game better, well it doesn't help because one match against a good player and they'll get caned anyhow, normal or turbo. They can learn the game in practice mode (which is far better now - thanks TMyApp!)

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that I, for one, would like to see Normal Speed taken out of the game altogether. I can understand that this is meant to be a faithful conversion from the arcade, but really I think Normal Speed causes more problems than its worth.

The only time I ever play normal speed games is when it gets automatically selected, and I don't have the option to choose turbo, otherwise turbo speed is definitely the way to go!

Someone else please tell me what you think about this...
no it does not cause more lag

yes we do need NORMAL mode

[HairyArse]

er... if you're gonna reply at least back up your argument with some kind of info.

Just writing "yes we need normal mode, it does not cause lag" is pretty ordinary and does not tell me WHY we need it.

So why does the game need Normal Mode?

[DX Zero]

no it does not cause more lag

yes we do need NORMAL mode
if i get a nickel for arguing the right way without long topics then i be blinging my two dollar ring everywhere....

read my lips:

NO IT DOESNT CAUSE MORE LAG why? CUZ IT ONLY DECREASES THE FPS, during hyper moves it won't lag and frameskip as much for some people (if u kno wat i mean)

and it is NORMAL - N O R M A L mode. We need it cuz its NORMAL. Turbo mode wasn't even implimented in the game last year

[SSJKarma]

to compliment DX argument !

last year...
game was running 60/60 FPS, at least it tryed to !
but people were like this:"i have way more lag then ever it is not fair !"
and then tmyapp said, it is not lag but your FPS who make you think it is lag.
and then tmyapp made the game go for a basis of 30/30 FPS to be more convenient.
but then the game was slower in any way. but people had
semi- less lag has there screen had much less problem dealing with graphics.

so tmyapp made that turbo mode for those who thought the game was way slower !
but actually, the game uses 30/30 psf in normal mode and 60/60 fps with turbo mode.
seems people don't know a thing about the difference between them !

conclusion: what DX is true, the game will not lag less or more whenever you choose turbo or normal as it is only the FPS who is affected !

if you don't know what FPS means then you clearly is talking like a real stupid person as you are asking something without even knowing !
i said "IF" you don't know what it is !
if you know about it then you should have known that fact from the biginning !

[fear tetsuo]

No this game should get rid of normal mode. It really does suck because of how slow it is. I have always hated using that slow ass mode.

[Punker_Dude]

i think the normal speed isnt need but im just having a very bad day now and...........sigh.........well i dont want to talk much now................... :( http://www.gamegen.com/fightgen/characters/akuma-gks.gif

[SolidSnake76]

Does anyone actually mean to select Normal Speed ????

This is a serious question. As far as I can tell Normal speed only seems to make lag, really, really, really bad for players who have slowish computers anyway.

If it is in there for new-B's so they can learn the game better, well it doesn't help because one match against a good player and they'll get caned anyhow, normal or turbo. They can learn the game in practice mode (which is far better now - thanks TMyApp!)

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that I, for one, would like to see Normal Speed taken out of the game altogether. I can understand that this is meant to be a faithful conversion from the arcade, but really I think Normal Speed causes more problems than its worth.

The only time I ever play normal speed games is when it gets automatically selected, and I don't have the option to choose turbo, otherwise turbo speed is definitely the way to go!

Someone else please tell me what you think about this...
no it does not cause more lag

yes we do need NORMAL mode
maybe for you dx, but my computer already has enough problems. one which is a MAJOR problem is that the connection speed operates like a traffic light. and when the person picks normal, that makes everything worst. what tmy could do is fix the character choosing screen on quick games so we could have a chance to pick normal or turbo, cause it wont let us do that.

[DX Zero]

mvc2sucks and token used 28k modem
i dont know why yall want to make it go fast, if urs or the other persons computer lags, then it wont make it go faster, just more memory it will take for your computer = more lag..

oh and um this isnt the right section..

[SSJKarma]

like i said...
it is not about MORE or LESS lag.
it all about "F P S "
if you don't what it means then you clearly not seeing the big picture here !

let me take it straight ok !
NORMAL = 30/30 FPS
TURBO = 60/60 FPS
conclusion:
TURBO = SMOOTHER, but SLOWER PROCESSING, meaning MORE CHOPPY ANIMATION because your comp tryes to follow !
NORMAL = LESS Processing, LESS CHOPPY animation, better time following action

conclusion:
for me NORMAL is BETTER.

it all depends on your charcater but it will never REDUCE LAG as it isn't even related to it !
try and think people, difference between FPS and LAG there is much more to FPS problem then we have with lag !

NORMAL and TURBO are the best thing that could happen !

[pip99]

token used 28k modem

theres no piont playing if u got a modem like that..

and karma if every1 had..a quick pc and connection there would b hardly any problems.. and on normal TRUST ME..the fps is out of 40.. and my lowest was 39.66666..

and if u both hav good pc..play on turbo.. ???

more skill in turbo and normal ive noticed hardly any1 can block my specials(there pc isnt quick enough to compute with the speed)... but in turbo i can fast block...like instanlty..

[(R)Dragon(R)]

it all about "F P S "
if you don't what it means then you clearly not seeing the big picture here !
What is F P ? ? ?

[SSJKarma]

again, you're asking the impossible !

it's not everyone who can have a VERY BIG PC !
and no, i have a...
P4 CELERON 1.7ghz
128 sd-ram
3D Prophet 4000TX 32mb
33,6 modem and i still got about 20 FPS max and that's when i play practice mode !
so no, i doubt you have that much speed to be able to play 40 FPS unless you have something like...

P4 2.4
512mb DD-RAM
GeForce3 TI 128mb DDR
cable connection

if everyone had the money to buy that system then we wouldn't need any thing in this !
but no, in fact 3/4 of the PC USERS play this online game with the minimum requirements and perhaps less then it !
asking us to have better computers is something you cannot ask because we don't necessarely have the cash to do so !

edit:
FPS
Frame Per Seconds
or
Images Per Seconds
meaning the number of images your computer displays per seconds !
needs 24images/sec for the human eyes to actually see the animation smoothly !
60/60 is so smooth that the eyes doesn't see it after that !

[ULT1MATEWAR321]

i stronly believe it should be left in not becuase i like it i dont,
but its nice to have an option ???

[lordgrobyc']

Im gonna agree with SSJKarma and DX Zero on this post. No the turbo mode should not be taken out. Normal for me is better too.

[skate919]

i think the normal speed isnt need but im just having a very bad day now and...........sigh.........well i dont want to talk much now................... :( http://www.gamegen.com/fightgen/characters/akuma-gks.gif
Why would you post if you don't want to talk? LOL. Stupid kids...


Well personally, I am not a fan of Normal mode, but I do not see anything wrong with it besides the point that it is slower. My verdict: Let it stay and don't give Tmy more work.

[SolidSnake76]

i lose matches cause of normal. and on quick games u dont get a chance to choose.

[pip99]

yeah but lag kills everythink... ;)

[HairyArse]

ok, I can all see your point.

Maybe things would be a little easier, if in a quick game, you could ALWAYS decide on normal or turbo.

I swear about 90% of the time it is automatically chosen.
Perhaps this would fix things up

I'm not going to get sucked into this debate, but the what I will say is that:

In normal mode, I have less lag, slower response/game play.

In turbo mode, I have more lag, faster response/game play.

Given that (and the fact that I AM a dial-up user), I can't stand normal mode, and NEVER fight in it when avoidable.

The problem is in normal, your response after hitting a key is so much lower then in turbo mode that you can't defend yourself even when you see an attack coming at yourself.

For instance, someone fires a Shinkuu Hadouken at you in turbo mode, you can press away during the small "cut" sceen and when it's actually fired, you can defend. This works when you're in the air, charging, and in some attacks (this goes for ALL characters).

In normal mode... it NEVER works. The Shinkuu Hadouken comes at about the same speed, you hit away, and even if you're standing still, you can't defend (this goes for ALL characters).

...and you can just imagine what kind of disadvantage this is in Chun li vs. Cyclops matches where you NEED to be able to defend quickly.

Anyways, that's all I'm going to say about it. This topic is in the wrong section in any case.

[SSJKarma]

that's exactly what i am saying !
it all depends on your computers !
cause for my part i have a way better time playing with NORMAL then on TURBO !

TURBO = MORE lag, Less responsive keys, lots of defeats !
NORMAL = LESS lag, better responsives command, Lots of win

and that doesn't count the fact that even in turbo mode in the ARACDES you have less time to do the normal commands !
people you should try to slow the pace down a bit meaning you aren't necessarely have to do the command faster then the speed of light !
try taking your time to do them and you'll see the game response is way better.

it's all depend on your computer not on your TYPING SPEED !

[dellwizzzz]

like i said...
it is not about MORE or LESS lag.
it all about "F P S "
if you don't what it means then you clearly not seeing the big picture here !

let me take it straight ok !
NORMAL = 30/30 FPS
TURBO = 60/60 FPS
conclusion:
TURBO = SMOOTHER, but SLOWER PROCESSING, meaning MORE CHOPPY ANIMATION because your comp tryes to follow !
NORMAL = LESS Processing, LESS CHOPPY animation, better time following action

conclusion:
for me NORMAL is BETTER.

it all depends on your charcater but it will never REDUCE LAG as it isn't even related to it !
try and think people, difference between FPS and LAG there is much more to FPS problem then we have with lag !

NORMAL and TURBO are the best thing that could happen !
I agree,people with older(slower) processers might need to use normal or
1. computer will freeze because the graphics driver cant handle 60/60 frames per second
2. and yes lag is reffering to the bandwith(and you lag if you dont have a high enough bandwith)(the game needs more "information" then u can put out.)instead of a clean flow it is limited and if packets are sent to your computer and ur computer cant recieve them because your bandwith is to slow it will wait for that information to arrive b4 it can move the character on the screen! :angryfire: wow off the subject sry.well is every1 clear with fps(frames per second)and lag(not enough bandwith)please email me if you agree with me! i need more (computer wizzs to talk 2)dellwiz@msn.com

[TarkanX]

How about instead of making Normal the default mode, how about we make Turbo the default mode? It makes it much easier.

[SSJKarma]

that, i agree with !

getting rid of TURBO is just asking for the PEOPLES to BITCH more, but making the TURBO mode the default is acceptable as it keeps the normal mode for thsoe SLOWER COMPUTERS !

[DX Zero]

didnt turbo mode used to be default? ???

[apocolypse83]

Look in the official faq you morons. It says right there turbo is better. DUH!!! :angryfire:

[SSJKarma]

READ BETWEEN LIPS YOU FAG !
i was here from SEPTEMBER 2001, have seen the game as much as anyone who was here a year ago, and i played the game on almost all kind of machine !

i think I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE !
plus, TMYAPP as said it himself about a year ago when TURBO and NORMAL happenned !

TMYAPP:"NORMAL is for LOW-END USERS, those with high-end computers will see the game runs slowers, thus making TURBO better for THEM !"

conclusion:
LOW-END USERS = NORMAL is better
HIGH-END USERS = TURBO is better

now go #### your HAMSTER you GLUE-SNIFFER !

[BLACK_GOKU]

i dont care i win with turbo and normal no matter what. i win with turbo and normal sinces i have dsl. my computer nevers has any problem at all. i never even had lag at all. not ven onces. some times i lose but mosty i win.

well i go for turbo and normal


:buttrock: :buttrock: :angryfire: :buttrock:

[HairyArse]

well sheesh, I didn't ask for this topic to turn into a flam session, but I do agree with TarkanX and SSJKarma about making Turbo mode the default. That would make things a lot better.

I can understand now why Turbo is better for ppl with faster computers and Normal speed is better for slower, so we can all stop with this discussion now. Thanks for the replies all!

[bloodpack]

i think without TURBO there is no NORMAL

like BLACK, there is no BLACK if there are no WHITES ;)

[pip99]

NORMAL = LESS lag, better responsives command, Lots of win

chun li cant block her special in normal mode ??? and most other players dont usally block if some1 does special thye justf freeze but not in turbo..thats only in 1on1